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message 1: by SRC Moderator, Moderator (last edited Jul 15, 2021 06:18AM) (new)

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50.1 - Trishhartuk's task: 3-2-1

3–2–1 was a UK game show, that ran for ten years on ITV, between 29 July 1978 and 24 December 1988. Ted Rogers was the host and “Dusty Bin” was the mascot -- yes, he was a dustbin with a smiley face, and even has a Facebook page, despite the show going off the air long before Facebook started!

Read 3 books, one from each of the 3 prompts outlined below.
The three books must total at least 750 pages.
No books with the genres children or kids on the main book page may be used.


As it was a UK game show based on a Spanish format, at least one of the books you choose must be at least 50% set in either the UK (England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland - but not Eire) or Spain .
Required: State which book (3, 2, 1) fulfills the setting requirement. If the setting is not clearly indicated in the GR description or metadata, include a reference.

3: Read a book by an author with exactly three name parts – these can be initials, full names, etc. Remember, a hyphenated name only counts as one part, not two. Ex. Mary Anna Evans, Alexander McCall Smith, T.J. Klune or P. Djèlí Clark work, but Peter Godfrey-Smith would not.

2: Read a book that is part of a series AND includes a 2 in its series number in grayscale parenthesis after the title (#0.2, #2, #12, #21, #22, #3.2, etc).

1: Read a book with a one-word title, where the initial of the title word can be found in either TED ROGERS or DUSTY BIN. Subtitles should be ignored.


message 2: by Trish (last edited Jul 15, 2021 05:37AM) (new)

Trish (trishhartuk) | 3675 comments Ted thinks these are a winner


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Trish (trishhartuk) | 3675 comments These are headed for Dusty Bin


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SRC Moderator | 7060 comments Mod
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Robin P | 1609 comments For Task 1, it might help to realize that the 2 words that have to contain the initial have a lot of overlaps, so the only letters you have to work with are DUSTYBINGORE.

For Task 3, I am unclear if just a middle initial is enough. I am looking at Dorothy L. Sayers, which is how she is listed on GR. Looking her up without the initial doesn't bring her up, even though any reader would recognize her name without the initial. Can I use her for this task? Thanks and great task, your submission was by far ahead of the others in the voting!


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Kim (kmyers) | 1043 comments Mod
Two questions about the "3". Do authors like Leonard Pitts Jr. or Kurt Vonnegut Jr. work? What about George R.R. Martin - would he be considered four?


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Kim (kmyers) | 1043 comments Mod
One more question - I'm thinking about The Vanishing Man for #2, it's book #0.2 (prequel) in the Charles Lenox Mysteries. Does this work?


message 8: by Trish (last edited Jul 15, 2021 05:50AM) (new)

Trish (trishhartuk) | 3675 comments Kim wrote: "Two questions about the "3". Do authors like Leonard Pitts Jr. or Kurt Vonnegut Jr. work? What about George R.R. Martin - would he be considered four?"

So, I checked these in the Default Rules, which have the following:

"1. If a task calls for author’s initials, what name do I use for the last initial?

Relational suffixes, such as Jr., III, etc. do not count as part of the name for SRC purposes."

And

"2.b. What about an author who uses 2 or more initials in their name?

Letters marked by periods should be treated as separate names -J.K. Rowling would be JKR. George R.R. Martin would be GRRM."

So George R.R. Martin counts as four name pieces

With respect to The Vanishing Man, I hadn't specified that it had to be a whole number with a #2 in it (Mainly because I totally forgot about #0.2s!), so I'll say it's okay, and I'll ask the mods to pop a clarification in the task description.


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Trish (trishhartuk) | 3675 comments Robin P wrote: "For Task 3, I am unclear if just a middle initial is enough. I am looking at Dorothy L. Sayers, which is how she is listed on GR. Looking her up without the initial doesn't bring her up, even though any reader would recognize her name without the initial. Can I use her for this task?

You can. She has three name parts on GR.

Thanks and great task, your submission was by far ahead of the others in the voting!"

Thanks.


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Inge (Inge1990) | 408 comments Hi,

for the 3 name part I was wondering if de would work, for example Tatiana de Rosnay, or van, eg: Merel van Groningen?


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Inge (Inge1990) | 408 comments and just to make sure, for part 1. the one word title.

I found the book Ganbatte, which I would like to read, however, it is in goodreads as: Ganbatte - De Japanse kunst van de wilskracht
so it has an subtitle. would this still work?


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Trish (trishhartuk) | 3675 comments Inge (Inge1990) wrote: "Hi, for the 3 name part I was wondering if de would work, for example Tatiana de Rosnay, or van, eg: Merel van Groningen?"

I can't see anything in the rules which says that wouldn't count as three parts, so I'm going to okay that (just link back to this post when you post, in case the mods disagree).

for part 1. the one word title. I found the book Ganbatte, which I would like to read, however, it is in goodreads as: [book:Ganbatte - De Japanse kunst van de wilskracht|58..."

Sadly, that one doesn't work. Subtitles are defined as being after a colon - on this one, for whatever reason, it's a dash, so it wouldn't count as a one-word title.


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Inge (Inge1990) | 408 comments Trish wrote: "Inge (Inge1990) wrote: "Hi, for the 3 name part I was wondering if de would work, for example Tatiana de Rosnay, or van, eg: Merel van Groningen?"

I can't see anything in the rules which says that..."

Thanks for the reply, I will look for another one word title :)


message 14: by Deedee (last edited Jul 25, 2021 06:14PM) (new)

Deedee | 2344 comments For Task 2: would the second book of a two book series count? (or for which only the first 2 books of a series has been published to date)
Examples:
Hope Rides Again by Andrew Shaffer
The True Queen by Zen Cho
River of Stars by Guy Gavriel Kay
A Beautifully Foolish Endeavor by Hank Green


and, for task #1: Star-Crossed is one word, correct? because "star" and "crossed" are connected by the "-"


and, does Daughter of Black Lake by Cathy Marie Buchanan count for set in the U.K.? I suspect it does because a goodreads user said:
Time period is 1 AD, location is a small settlement in northern Britannia

which sounds like York or Scotland

Thanks


message 15: by Trish (last edited Jul 27, 2021 07:22AM) (new)

Trish (trishhartuk) | 3675 comments Apologies for the delay in getting bak to you.

Deedee wrote: "For Task 2: would the second book of a two book series count? (or for which only the first 2 books of a series has been published to date)

As long as it has #2 in grey in the series name, they'll be fine.

Deedee wrote: "task #1: Star-Crossed is one word, correct? because "star" and "crossed" are connected by the "-"

That's certainly the rule for names, so I would expect it to work for titles (unless the mods say otherwise).

Deedee wrote: "does Daughter of Black Lake by Cathy Marie Buchanan count for set in the U.K.? I suspect it does because a goodreads user said: Time period is 1 AD, location is a small settlement in northern Britannia which sounds like York or Scotland

Hmm. That's a tricky one. I'd be happier to confirm it if there was any actual location mentioned in the GR description or metadata. As it is, I think "Iron Age Britain" is too vague (especially as the UK per se, doesn't exist until 1707).

On the other hand, of the ones you suggest for Series #2, The True Queen would count for England.


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Deedee | 2344 comments Trish wrote: "Apologies for the delay in getting bak to you.

Deedee wrote: "For Task 2: would the second book of a two book series count? (or for which only the first 2 books of a series has been published to ..."


Thanks for answering my questions! :)


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