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message 1: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
Dear members,

Please share your thoughts about what to expect in 2023 in our group.
We are planning to have 4 official reads. We will be sharing our interests with you soon to check what will be the best options.

Please share your ideas with us. We welcome any proposals for reading books as official or buddy reads.

Let us begin :)


message 2: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
For fiction I would like to read:
Warda: A Novel

For non-fiction, I would like to read:
Nile: Urban Histories on the Banks of a River


message 3: by Jalilah (new)

Jalilah | 914 comments I would definitely like to read the novel The House of Rust by the author Khadija Abdalla Bajaber. She is of Yemeni ancestry born in Kenya.
It is not easy to find Yemeni authors, so when a Yemeni friend posted about this novel on Facebook I immediately noted it!


message 4: by Nan (new)

Nan Carter | 177 comments I would like to nominate The Night Will Have It’s Say, Ibrahim
al- Koni. Translated by Nancy Roberts.
The Muslim conquest of North Africa during the 7th century CE from the perspective of the conquered peoples. Berber warrior Queen and Umayyad emissary. Ramifactions of futility of wars. Beautiful poetic language.


message 5: by Melanie, Marhaba Language Expertise (new)

Melanie (magidow) | 759 comments Mod
For 2023, we're thinking of having 4 group reads (beyond that, members can also create their own unlimited buddy reads). I have 3 ideas...

1. Fiction: Hopefully The Djinn's Apple (تفاح الجن) will be coming out in Sawad Hussain's English translation in 2023.

2. Non-Fiction: Maybe just an open Non-Fiction read and people can report on books they read according to their own interests? I'm not sure everyone would be interest in my own choice: The Tentmakers of Cairo: Egypt's Medieval and Modern Applique Craft.

3. Children's/Stan Countries: The Clever Wife: A Kyrgyz Folktale

Other books on my to-read list that might be of interest to others:
The Other End of the Sea (author not from MENA region)

In case there is any interest in an Arabic-only read, I'm planning to read writing by Emily Nasrallah, as well as these books that are not yet available in EN:
1) أوراق قديمة
2) غريبة الحسين
3) نصف استواء


message 6: by Nan (new)

Nan Carter | 177 comments The Tentmakers of Cairo sounds like a very interesting book. I love to sew and plan on buying this book. Thanks for the suggestion.


message 7: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
It seems we only have The Tentmakers of Cairo: Egypt's Medieval and Modern Applique Craft as a reading to be highlighted so far.

I want to read The Night Will Have Its Say but I could not reach a copy so far.


message 8: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
Melanie wrote: "1. Fiction: Hopefully The Djinn's Apple (تفاح الجن) will be coming out in Sawad Hussain's English translation in 2023..."

I have a copy now. If the English translation is out. I am in for the discussion.


message 9: by Nan (new)

Nan Carter | 177 comments The Night Will Have Its Say is on Kindel.


message 10: by Ardene (new)

Ardene (booksnpeaches) | 116 comments Jalilah wrote: "I would definitely like to read the novel The House of Rust by the author Khadija Abdalla Bajaber. She is of Yemeni ancestry born in Kenya.
It is not easy to find..."


I am also interested in this one. Maybe we could do a buddy read?


message 11: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
Nan, for ( the night will have its say ) I was hoping to reach a copy in Arabic. I have been trying for the past last year.


message 12: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
Niledaughter wrote: "Nan, for ( the night will have its say ) I was hoping to reach a copy in Arabic. I have been trying for the past last year."

Now I have a copy! Thanks dear Melanie :)
Now we can have The Night Will Have Its Say
by Ibrahim al-Koni as an official read in 2023!
It has been long time since I read The Bleeding of the Stone for him.



Hopefully we will hear about (The Djinn's Apple-تفاح الجن) English translation!

Melanie suggested having an open Non-Fiction Read. She would be reading: The Tentmakers of Cairo: Egypt's Medieval and Modern Applique Craft. And I would love to read Nile: Urban Histories on the Banks of a River

Who is in?

About the buddy Reads: Are we having one for The House of Rust ?


message 13: by Nan (new)

Nan Carter | 177 comments Niledaughter I’m glad you found a copy in Arabic.


message 14: by Jalilah (new)

Jalilah | 914 comments Niledaughter wrote: "Niledaughter wrote: "Nan, for ( the night will have its say ) I was hoping to reach a copy in Arabic. I have been trying for the past last year."

Now I have a copy! Thanks dear Melanie :)
Now we c..."



I would LOVE to read The House of Rust
If we do the challenge again in 2023 it will be my selection for either Khalijee or Horn of Africa


message 15: by Mona (new)

Mona (monazaneefer) | 38 comments I'd love to buddy read The House of Rust!

Some non-fiction suggestions:
1. What Have You Left Behind? by Bushra al-Maqtari
2. We Could Have Been Friends, My Father and I: A Palestinian Memoir by Raja Shehadeh
3. Head Above Water: Reflections on Illness by Shahd Alshammari


message 16: by Melanie, Marhaba Language Expertise (new)

Melanie (magidow) | 759 comments Mod
Thanks for all the ideas so far. I have another Non-Fiction that I plan to read this year (it just won an award from MESA, the Middle East Studies Association): Say What Your Longing Heart Desires: Women, Prayer, and Poetry in Iran.

For The House of Rust, I might be interested too. I'm planning to look at it closer soon!


message 17: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
Great!
I think we can start with The Night Will Have Its Say in January.
March The House of Rust? or we could move to the open Non-Fiction Read.

I guess we can continue with our yearly challenge as it is, what do you think?


message 18: by Jalilah (new)

Jalilah | 914 comments Niledaughter wrote: "Great!
I think we can start with The Night Will Have Its Say in January.
March The House of Rust? or we could move to the open Non-Fiction Read.

I guess we can cont..."


Yes to the group reads and challenge! I’d love to do it again!


message 19: by Nan (new)

Nan Carter | 177 comments Sounds good.


message 20: by Melanie, Marhaba Language Expertise (last edited Dec 13, 2022 09:16AM) (new)

Melanie (magidow) | 759 comments Mod
Sorry for the delay. I can participate in The House of Rust discussion. It looks like we have the following group reads forming for 2023:

1. The Night Will Have Its Say (Ar. كلمة الليل في حق النهار ) - hosted by NileDaughter
2. The House of Rust - hosted by Melanie unless someone else volunteers (Jalilah, message me if you want to do this)
3. Open Non-Fiction Read
4. If it is available in English translation (by Sawad Hussain) by then, The Djinn's Apple (Ar. تفاح الجن) by Jamila Mourani. You can read an excerpt here:
https://wordswithoutborders.org/read/...
You can read about the book here:
https://arablit.org/2018/01/23/why-dj...

Let us know if there is anything else you'd like to see in the line-up :)


message 21: by Mona (new)

Mona (monazaneefer) | 38 comments The Djinn's Apple premise sounds intriguing! Is there a rough date when the translated version will be published?


message 22: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
Melanie wrote: "Sorry for the delay. I can participate in The House of Rust discussion. It looks like we have the following group reads forming for 2023:

1. The Night Will Have Its Say (Ar. [book:..."


Thank you for putting this together! :)

Mona wrote: "The Djinn's Apple premise sounds intriguing! Is there a rough date when the translated version will be published?"

It is the forth read, probably (from October to December), hopfuly it will be out by then.

Jalilah wrote: "Yes to the group reads and challenge! I’d love to do it again!..."

Great! I will set the challenge soon .


message 23: by Jalilah (new)

Jalilah | 914 comments I will definitely participate in a discussion about The House of Rust! In fact, I’ve already ordered the book, however I don’t want to be a discussion leader.
It sounds silly I know, but the times I’ve offered to do it, no one else participated so now I’ve become superstitious about it


message 24: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
2023 challenge is set:
https://www.goodreads.com/challenges/...

Please post your list in here:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 25: by Melanie, Marhaba Language Expertise (new)

Melanie (magidow) | 759 comments Mod
Jalilah, I can take care of the hosting then. I know how eerie it is to start a discussion and hear just crickets. The only reassurance I can offer is that the threads are never closed so the discussion can always continue beyond the set period - maybe someone will respond someday :)


message 26: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
Happy New year everyone:)

Our first discussion for The Night Will Have Its Say
is here:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 27: by Memo (new)

Memo Calderon | 6 comments For nonfiction :Syria Crucified


message 28: by Inji (new)

Inji | 52 comments The house of rust seems like my kind of book. Also happy to do do unofficial / buddy reads of Emily Nasrallah’s Arabic book.


message 29: by Inji (new)

Inji | 52 comments I will also be reading Memory of Departure by Nobel laureate Abdulrazzak Gurnah.
There’s a whole debate around his Arabness, he’s a great author in any case

https://www.archyde.com/this-arab-aut...


message 30: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
Thanks for the recommendation Inji. I have (Afterlives) for the same author to read.


message 31: by Nan (new)

Nan Carter | 177 comments Thank You, Inji for the link. Memory of Departure is a great read no matter how the press characterizes Abdulrazak Gurnan.


message 32: by Jalilah (new)

Jalilah | 914 comments Inji wrote: "The house of rust seems like my kind of book. Also happy to do do unofficial / buddy reads of Emily Nasrallah’s Arabic book."

I started it just now and it’s very intriguing! I might stop and start again when we read it as a group read in April


message 33: by Inji (new)

Inji | 52 comments Great then, there’s enough of us reading house of rust it seems :) and Gurnah is definitely a great author, I read Gravel Heart but not Paradise.


message 34: by Niledaughter (last edited Jun 11, 2023 01:34AM) (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
Melanie wrote: "Sorry for the delay. I can participate in The House of Rust discussion. It looks like we have the following group reads forming for 2023:

1. The Night Will Have Its Say


Hello all,

About next month read :
3. Open Non-Fiction Read

What are you interested in reading?
Reminder: Melanie suggested reading: The Tentmakers of Cairo: Egypt's Medieval and Modern Applique Craft. And I would love to read Nile: Urban Histories on the Banks of a River.


message 35: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
Anyone would like to read any other book?


message 37: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
Intesting collection Mona!
I think you can pick one and read.
We can all share our different thoughts ( impressions or reviews) about the nonfiction book we read during the next reading episode in the group, since there is no particular book has a common interest.


message 38: by Mona (new)

Mona (monazaneefer) | 38 comments Alright, great :) Apologies for not having been all that active in past discussions - hope to change that


message 39: by Melanie, Marhaba Language Expertise (new)

Melanie (magidow) | 759 comments Mod
Looking forward to your thoughts, Mona (and everyone)!


message 40: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
Welcome anytime Mona :)
Me too Melanie, I will open the discussion soon!


message 41: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
The discussion is open in here:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 42: by Niledaughter (new)

Niledaughter | 2897 comments Mod
Hello everyone!
Do you need a final group book reading discussion, or should we continue with the non-fiction reading session?


message 43: by Mona (new)

Mona (monazaneefer) | 38 comments I don’t mind continuing with the non-fiction read


message 44: by Inji (new)

Inji | 52 comments Anyone reading Adania Shibli's Minor Detail and interested in a buddy read? My friend and I are reading it together, it's out on Libro FM in English, audiobook and by Kotob.com in Arabic, e-book


message 45: by Jen (new)

Jen R. (rosetung) | 55 comments Inji wrote: "Anyone reading Adania Shibli's Minor Detail and interested in a buddy read? My friend and I are reading it together, it's out on Libro FM in English, audiobook and by Kotob.com in Arabic, e-book"

I'm currently reading that!
Hi, I'm new here... :) I've just gotten a bit into part 2.


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