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message 1: by Jalilah (new)

Jalilah | 5069 comments Mod
Here is the place to discuss retellings, traditional tales, or books inspired by the mythology, folklore, or fairy tales with the theme Creating order out of chaos


message 2: by Cheryl (last edited Jan 06, 2023 07:03AM) (new)


message 3: by Michele (last edited Dec 17, 2022 04:59PM) (new)

Michele (micheleevansito) | 79 comments Going to the Babylonian creation myth for this one.

The Seven Tablets of Creation by Leonard William King


message 4: by Andy (new)

Andy Of The Blacks | 447 comments Would welcome some recommendations on this...

When We Were Birds and Sign Here are both on my TBR, but I'm not sure either fits the theme (though they are related to it...)


message 5: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Johnson (whatryansreading) | 12 comments Vita Nostra is kind of about this (as much as anything that metaphysical can be about ANYTHING that structured). I get the feeling that it's upcoming sequel, Assassin of Reality will be centering more on it.


message 6: by Andy (last edited Jan 06, 2023 07:47AM) (new)

Andy Of The Blacks | 447 comments Ryan wrote: "Vita Nostra is kind of about this (as much as anything that metaphysical can be about ANYTHING that structured)."

Thank you! I've been wavering on this one, not quite sure it is for me!


message 7: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Johnson (whatryansreading) | 12 comments Andy wrote: "Ryan wrote: "Vita Nostra is kind of about this (as much as anything that metaphysical can be about ANYTHING that structured)."

Thank you! I've been wavering on this one, not quite ..."


It is a VERY divisive book, and it can be a rough read at times, but I found it really fulfilling by the end, and a WILDLY original take on the "magical school" trope.


message 8: by Margaret (new)

Margaret | 4475 comments Mod
This is a tough one, and I think it can be interpreted in multiple ways. Several of my ideas are post apocalyptic novels that integrate folklore.

-Notes from the Burning Age by Claire North is a post apocalyptic novel where mythic beasts protect the Earth from humans. It's also a political novel.
-Parable of the Sower by Octavia E. Butler: Classic dystopian novel, about a young girl creating a religion that helps bring people together.
-Kalpa Imperial: The Greatest Empire That Never Was by Angélica Gorodischer: a series of shorts about a city that rises and falls and rises and falls.
-Merlin's Booke by Jane Yolen: I might be misremembering, but I feel like this collection of Arthurian legend short stories would work, because it shows how building the realm of Camelot brought order to the chaotic tribes.
-Maybe Trail of Lightning by Rebecca Roanhorse? After a climate change apocalypse, the Dinétah rebuild while the rest of the Earth is in chaos.


message 9: by Andy (new)

Andy Of The Blacks | 447 comments Thank you so much! :)
Silly me, the books I was suggesting were options for "Descent into the Underworld"!
I am atill unsure about this, I might just wait and see if I read randomly something that fits, if not, I'll choose something towards the end of the year! :)
If arthurian legends work, maybe The Crystal Cave could work... I've been meaning to try Mary Stuart!
I am going to read Kindred soon, if I like it, I could try Parable of the Sower! I am generally not for apocalyptic bools! ;)


message 10: by Jalilah (last edited Jan 07, 2023 01:52PM) (new)

Jalilah | 5069 comments Mod
I have not read the other books mentioned but Imo Parable of the Sower and Trail of Lightning would count

Back when we were still creating the challenge Anansi tales were mentioned, so when we decided on themes I looked up themes of Anansi tales on one them was creating order out of chaos.
So booked based on or inspired by Anansi mythology would count.
Also creation mythology


message 11: by Margaret (new)

Margaret | 4475 comments Mod
Andy wrote: "Thank you so much! :)
Silly me, the books I was suggesting were options for "Descent into the Underworld"!
I am atill unsure about this, I might just wait and see if I read randomly something that ..."


I loved The Crystal Cave as a teen. I haven't read it since then, but I think it would work!


message 12: by Andy (new)

Andy Of The Blacks | 447 comments Thank you! :)


message 13: by Cheryl (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) I'm using Lonely Castle in the Mirror. Seven children go through a portal knowing nothing about each other, or where they are, or what's going on, but they work together and finally work out all of that and more. Kind of. Odd book, and maybe not what the prompt really meant, but I gave it four stars and I want to include it.


message 14: by Margaret (new)

Margaret | 4475 comments Mod
Cheryl wrote: "I'm using Lonely Castle in the Mirror. Seven children go through a portal knowing nothing about each other, or where they are, or what's going on, but they work together and finally..."

I started that one but abandoned it about halfway through. I really liked the premise but had trouble connecting to the characters. They all felt a bit flat to me, but I feel like that might be a me thing, not a book thing.


message 15: by Cheryl (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) They do develop, as does the story. It's one of those tricky ones, with the intentional progressions. I almost dnf'd it myself but am glad that I didn't.


message 16: by Margaret (new)

Margaret | 4475 comments Mod
Cheryl wrote: "They do develop, as does the story. It's one of those tricky ones, with the intentional progressions. I almost dnf'd it myself but am glad that I didn't."

Good to know! Maybe I'll try it again on audio this year.


message 17: by Rose (last edited Jan 12, 2023 07:57PM) (new)

Rose Paris | 91 comments I think I am going to read Creation Stories: Landscapes and the human imagination for this one, I love anything connected to myth and the natural environment


message 18: by Cheryl (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) That does look interesting. I am interested, too, in psychology. And my library system does have this, so yay.


message 19: by Jamie (new)

Jamie Zaccaria | 57 comments I read The Sea Priestess by Dion Fortune.

I find it hard to rate this book. I liked the writing style and while I enjoyed reading it, I didn't find myself wanting to pick it up again. I think Fortune's tale is so entwined with her teachings that there was likely a lot in the story that went over my head. Pretty writing but nothing too extraordinary.


message 20: by Ozsaur (new)

Ozsaur | 248 comments Gobbelino London & A Contagion of Zombies is my pick for Creating Order Out of Chaos. It's the second book in the series, and quite entertaining.

While there's a lot of chaos in the book, the protagonists do a lot of... getting things back on track.


message 21: by Margaret (new)

Margaret | 4475 comments Mod
Ozsaur wrote: "Gobbelino London & A Contagion of Zombies is my pick for Creating Order Out of Chaos. It's the second book in the series, and quite entertaining.

While there's a lot of chaos in th..."


That looks fun!


message 22: by Ozsaur (new)

Ozsaur | 248 comments Margaret, the Gobbelino series is a lot of fun, but can get a bit dark in some places. The relationship between Gobbelino and Callum is awesome!


message 23: by Jalilah (new)

Jalilah | 5069 comments Mod
Someplace to Be Flying would count as it’s inspired by a First Nations/Native American myth/legend
It would also count for Shapeshifters


message 24: by Erin (new)

Erin (erindarrow) | 57 comments I've been unsure how to interpret this theme but I opted to count The Bone Shard Emperor by Andrew Stewart because there are elements of a chaotic world with ancient mythological beings (Alanga) returning, a rebellion against the Empire underfoot, (chaos) and bone shard magic that works by carving commands into the bones of constructs, which take logic (order).

This was a re-read for me in anticipation of the follow-up, The Bone Shard War coming out soon. I've really enjoyed everything about these books and look forward to the final installment!


message 25: by Margaret (new)

Margaret | 4475 comments Mod
Erin wrote: "I've been unsure how to interpret this theme but I opted to count The Bone Shard Emperor by Andrew Stewart because there are elements of a chaotic world with ancient mythological beings (Alanga) re..."

I started the final book (an arc) and had to put it down for an assignment, but I was enjoying it! I plan to finish it on audio.


message 26: by Erin (new)

Erin (erindarrow) | 57 comments Margaret wrote: "Erin wrote: "I've been unsure how to interpret this theme but I opted to count The Bone Shard Emperor by Andrew Stewart because there are elements of a chaotic world with ancient mythological being..."

Nice, that is great to hear! I'm planning to read it soon as it landed on my e-reader but I have some library books queued up first so I'll probably save it for a bit but really looking forward to it.


message 27: by Jalilah (new)

Jalilah | 5069 comments Mod
Andy wrote: "Would welcome some recommendations on this...

When We Were Birds and Sign Here are both on my TBR, but I'm not sure either fits the theme (though they are related t..."


I read this for last years challenge for the Caribbean prompt. It’s interesting but I’m not sure if it has a creating order out of chaos theme.
To be honest I’m still not sure what to read for this prompt


message 28: by Margaret (new)

Margaret | 4475 comments Mod
Jalilah wrote: "To be honest I’m still not sure what to read for this prompt ..."

I read Sisters of the Lost Nation and really enjoyed it, and I think you would too!


message 29: by Andy (new)

Andy Of The Blacks | 447 comments Thank you both!
For now I am veering towards thinking "last books in series" seem to fit the prompt... ;)


message 30: by Cheryl (new)

Cheryl (cherylllr) Hah! Yes, that makes sense!


message 31: by Jalilah (last edited Jul 04, 2023 06:13PM) (new)

Jalilah | 5069 comments Mod
Margaret wrote: "Jalilah wrote: "To be honest I’m still not sure what to read for this prompt ..."

I read Sisters of the Lost Nation and really enjoyed it, and I think you would too!"


Thank you! My library has ordered it and I’m now in the cue!
In the meantime I have Tread of Angels which I think might also count


message 32: by Margaret (new)

Margaret | 4475 comments Mod
Jalilah wrote: "Thank you! My library has ordered it and I’m now in the cue!
In the meantime I have Tread of Angels which I think might also count..."


Ah, yes, I think it would!


message 33: by Jalilah (new)

Jalilah | 5069 comments Mod
Margaret wrote: "Jalilah wrote: "Thank you! My library has ordered it and I’m now in the cue!
In the meantime I have Tread of Angels which I think might also count..."

Ah, yes, I think it would!"


Oh good! I’m in the mood to read Rebecca Roanhorse again after taking a break from fantasy for a while! I know I’ll always like her books!


message 34: by Jalilah (new)

Jalilah | 5069 comments Mod
Tread of Angels was great but I’m not sure if there is really a creating order out of chaos theme in it.


message 35: by Margaret (new)

Margaret | 4475 comments Mod
Jalilah wrote: "Tread of Angels was great but I’m not sure if there is really a creating order out of chaos theme in it."

It's probably more like creating chaos out of order. :)

Weren't the Angels trying to enforce order in the wild west?


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