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mina | 2946 comments Mod
Welcome to the Rule of Wolves Buddy Read Discussion thread! This thread officially opens on April 24th and anyone can join at any time. Please keep in mind that spoilers are allowed in this thread but only up to the group's current reading place. Do not spoil the book if you've read further than the group. Any extra days can be used to catch up!

Each day we will be reading by chapters or page numbers. Page numbers are an approximation based on the hardcover or paperback that is the default on Goodreads. The suggested Buddy Read discussion schedule is as follows:

Week of 04/24
April 24th: Chapters 1-4
April 25th: Chapters 5-7
April 26th: Chapters 8-10
April 27th: Chapters 11-13
April 28th: Chapters 14-17
April 29th: Chapters 18-20
April 30th: Chapters 21-24

Week of 05/01
May 1st: Chapters 25-28
May 2nd: Chapters 29-32
May 3rd: Chapters 33-36
May 4th: Chapters 37-42
May 5th: Chapters 43-46
May 6th: Chapters 47-49

PARTICIPANTS
~ Juliane
~ Edith
~ Bopeep


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Lexus (lexcat1994) | 125 comments I’m joining this buddy read. I bought this book awhile ago and this is my motivation to pull it off the shelf.


lexa (misplacedamygdala) | 7 comments I would love to join if still possible, just finished King of Scars today. I wasn’t sure I’d finish in time for start date, but I did!


Bopeep (bopip) | 1088 comments You're both welcome, ofc!
I finished yesterday and I was SO tempted to start rule of wolves at that instant hahaha


Juliane | 344 comments Hi everyone, the more the merrier :-)

Very interesting to read the King of Scars-discussion in the parallel Buddy Read.

Going to try to keep this message spoiler free for those not yet finished with KoS.

I look forward to reading Rule of Wolves together especially as I am quite torn about KoS for two reasons:

1. For me the book felt like two very different stories that in my opinion would have deserved their own books. Really felt like once I developed a connection with the Nikolai/Zoya part I was ripped out of that into the Nina parts of the book. Also the more we got to know Nina the more I enjoyed her story in comparison to Nikolai/Zoya and would have loved to read more point of views in Ninas story, like Hanne or Leony.

As a result I thought that both main story-lines of the book at time lacked depth, which considering the length of the book is rather surprising. Also considering the books title I find it a bit strange that Nikolai did not feel like the main character in what was kind of supposed to be his own book.

2. I rather despise the ending of KoS. 😅 Like seriously we have proper saints in the book and this is what we get as a continuation into Rule of Wolves? Unbelievable 😄

Such a long message before the Buddy Read even starts and it does not sound especially positive, my apologies, I blame the passion I have developed for this universe and its characters 😁

Basically I have a huge amount of questions and expectations for Rule of Wolves lol


lexa (misplacedamygdala) | 7 comments your definitely not alone, i did not appreciate certain parts of the ending at all.


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Edith (xeesky) | 799 comments Mod
So excited to start this one based off of everyone's comments. It seems I'm the outlier that hasn't finished KoS lol. I feel like everyone has varying opinions about the ending. My reading game is off this month (sorry about not commenting on theories bopeep lol) but I'll try to chime in when I'm caught up decently enough :)


Bopeep (bopip) | 1088 comments Well, I think Bardugos idea to do two different plots in one book is nice, because if it was two different books... I probably wouldn't buy Nina's book since I didn't enjoy her character much in Six of Crows.

I don't understand why you didn't like the ending, so can we speak with spoilers?
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Juliane | 344 comments I agree that i do not know if I would have bought a separate Nina-book before reding KoS but afterwards I just wanted to know so much more about what was happening in her part of the world.

Regarding my problems with the ending
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lexa (misplacedamygdala) | 7 comments I absolutely loved 98% of King of Scars, everything with Nikolai and Zoya's story, same with Nina's especially when Hanne was introduced.
The one thing i found very annoying about the ending (view spoiler)

Lots of questions going into RoW, hoping they all get answered and that the Grishaverse gets an amazing ending. Because wow is it ever a fantastic series.


Bopeep (bopip) | 1088 comments Has anyone started this?

I've read 3 chapters so far, but I'm so curious about what's happening with that Darkness. Will there be a Shadow all around the place right now, including Fredja and Shu Han?

BTW, I'm excited to know more about Shu Han since its the region we know less about at the moment~


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lexa (misplacedamygdala) | 7 comments @Bopeep I've started, I've read 9 chapters so far.

(Will not spoil for anyone who has not started or has read less)

I'm also super interested in whats happening with the darkness.
Also super excited for more about Shu Han, and hopefully we get more about Novyi Zem as well.


Bopeep (bopip) | 1088 comments @ains You're fast! I will now be 100% reading this, so I will catch up with the schedule soon ^^

Chapter 6

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Juliane | 344 comments Hey how is everybody doing?

I'm also unfortunately a bit behind but have now managed to get to chapter 9

I am very intrigued where all the the story points are going and sometimes meeting unexpectedly. The little Jesper-shoutout was great :-)

Spoiler includes points up to the end of chapter 8.

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lexa (misplacedamygdala) | 7 comments Things are getting intriguing very fast...

Spoilers for chapters end of 4 - end of 7

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Spoilers for chapter 5 - end of 8

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Spoilers for chapter 8 - end of 9

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Spoilers for all of Chapter 11

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I also don't quite remember the Jesper hint, if someone could remind me would appreciate that a ton! <3

Hope everyone is enjoying the book!


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Edith (xeesky) | 799 comments Mod
Hello all! Bit more behind than I’d like, just finished chapter 7. Love that the beginning of the book has quite the action to set up the rest of the story. Nothing much of note for me that hasn’t already been said though. Anyone else get creeped out by Brum’s advances towards Nina during the ceremony?

@ains, the Jesper hint was during the battle scene against the Fjerdans. I believe it was a small paragraph describing who helped in the creation of the parem antidote. “…David, Kuwei, and a young boy who grew up on a farm that mentioned his mother used it as balm….etc” to paraphrase :)


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Edith (xeesky) | 799 comments Mod
Okay, I've caught up enough to be able to read the spoilers finally (lol), and a bit more. Thoughts so far:

Chapters 11-12
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Chapter 14
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Chapter 15
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Bopeep (bopip) | 1088 comments I've read chapter 15 and... Why does Nikolai ALWAYS surprises me? Really, I didn't expect that turn at all.

I just love him 😍

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Yesterday I've read 100+ pages, but couldn't do more because this whole situation stresses me out! Heeelp! xD


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lexa (misplacedamygdala) | 7 comments I haven't been able to put the book down the plot is thickening..

Chapter 14 spoilers
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Chapter 15 spoilers
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Chapter 16 spoilers
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End of chapter 18 - end of 19 spoilers
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Chapter 20 spoilers
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Chapter 21 spoilers
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Chapter 22 spoilers
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Chapter 23 spoilers
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Chapter 24 spoilers
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Juliane | 344 comments I finally managed to get some reading in and catch up a bit and I can honestly say that I am loving the way the relationship of Zoya and Nikolai is developing. It is so good to see how they can open up to each other and be vulnerable in front of each other in a way they cannot with anybody else.

Also the general banter between all the characters is again really fun, I quite enjoy the mix of lightness and drama in the book so far especially considering all the talk of war and possible horrible endings for everyone in Ravka.

Thoughts from 9 up to chapter 21, more in order of characters than in a chronological order

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Juliane | 344 comments It is getting so hard to put the book down ^^

Chapters 21 to 28

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lexa (misplacedamygdala) | 7 comments I finished the book, I couldn't help myself.

Absolutely amazing is all I will say, please keep updating as you all read!

I will join into discussion to whatever point everyone has read up to.
:))


Bopeep (bopip) | 1088 comments I forgot where happens all the action, but I'm reading chapter 30, so, no more than that at this point!

About David
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About Zoya
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About Aleksander
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About Ketterdam
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About Magnus
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About Hanne
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About Joran
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Edith (xeesky) | 799 comments Mod
I’ve finished! I will also refrain from commenting until everyone else has caught up, but wow. I can’t believe this ride is truly over 😭


Juliane | 344 comments I absolutely love this book. The pace towards the end was amazingly fast and there were still so many suprises left.
Will also wait with the discussion till everyone is done.
I'm just so happy I got into this series, this was so much fun and it seems to have raced by far too quickly.


Bopeep (bopip) | 1088 comments I think I'm the last one to finish, but I hope to finish it today or tomorrow, so if you want to start commenting, I'm looking forward to it


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Bopeep (bopip) | 1088 comments Finished!

I will write my thougts when I'm on the computer but OMMMGGGG

The last chapter was amazing, so many characters together!
And the ending... I love how this gets together with Six of Crows 3!!


EDIT: Okay, let's go little by little~

In chapter 36 I was so upset with Zoya. How could she leave the planned strategy for Nina? Fortunately, it all went well in the end.

I was sure that Hanne wasn't dead (Nina couldn't have two love interests killed, nope). I had the theory (you know that I love doing those!) that he confectionated himself, so he could escape with Nina. I didn't think that he became Rasmus lol. He was meant to be part of the royalty after all <3

Oh, yes, Zoya turning into a dragon was amazing!! She could do that, but was still stopping the power from herself. But the battle felt rushed, and it ended with that Deus ex Machina that I didn't like, but they had so little oportunities to win that only a dragon and a demon and some monsters could do anything to win that battle.

I didn't expect her to end as a queen, but I kinda liked it?
I don't know. The reunion after the battle was rushed, and maybe Nikolai could have tried harder to be the king. Anyway, I love how he's madly in love with her, like a puppy after his mistress haha <3

The last chapter was amazing!!! I loved seeing Inej here <3 that she almost recognized Alina, and that after the party she went with Nina and non-Rasmus <3 I loved their friendship and glad they could meet one more time!

It seems Bardugo liked the Darkling so much he wanted him to be a martyr. My unpopular opinion is that he wasn't that bad after all, but the power got to his head and he was super ambitious... even if he was cruel during the last years. Also, I was super confused about why he helped them in the battle and in the reunion. I'm still confused though haha


Juliane | 344 comments Where to even begin there was so much of everyone^^
I agree that some of the endings felt rather rushed at that point the book could have used further development but the endings in itself for the various characters feel reather right for me.

The darkling being eternally tormented feels fitting for me altough of course he went into it with his usual arrogance 😂
@Bopeep I agree that his role in the battle seemed rather confusing, like he wanted something bigger with his own reveal but was then too surprised by the Fjerdan bells and Zoyas dragon showing up? Seemed strange and it did not feel like him to just give up his own plans so easily.

Looking at everything together though it seems rather fitting that his ending would set up some possibilities of further stories sometime in the future with everybody working together again.

I did feel that the development of Hannes powers was going a little too quickly but its great that Nina and her found such a happy ending. I love the mention that Hanne seems now able to have a life and body she can feel comfortable in. And I guess Nina would have burned the world to the ground if Hanne had been dead so that went better for everyone involved.

I also hope Joran stays by their side to protect Rasmus as he clearly knows there was something strange going on during the altercation between Hanne and Rasmus, its also a nice call-out toward being able to find some redemption for himself for killing an innocent man, maybe that would be a way Nina could arrange herself with him being around especially now that she has found her own happiness again.

Of course the assembly for finding a ruler for Ravka went much too easily for our main characters but I cheered all the way through when Nikolai came up with the idea of making Zoya queen and Kirigin backing them all the way through and I'm glad this particular Apparat was finally pushed far away from any power. There is only so many ways any person should be able to be a turncoat.

Zoya and Nikolais love story has so much potential, I am glad that they have a shot at happiness no matter how chaotic everything including the two themselves may be. I enjoyed that they both seem to be able to arrange themselves with their inner creatures/powers especially now that the power dyamic has switched between them.


Bopeep (bopip) | 1088 comments @Juliane
Yep, still confused about the Darkling. Is he good? Is he bad? Will he survive the tree?

Actually, Bardugo is planning on releasing a Six of Crows #3! Which is 100% what the ending says hahaha

Yeah, Hanne's powers were so fast, but I think he really practiced at night to became a man some time each day? To feel comfortable with himself.
Nina woldn't have had any pity if Hanne was really dead hahaha Like "I'm sorry Matthias, but this is too much, I'm gonna kill them all".
Joran seems a good guy, even if he did what he did. Though Nina will still hate him for some time, I think.

Oh yeah, Zoya and Nikolai moment at the end was sooo cute! I loved it. I think what I love most of their relationship is that they don't have that passionate love story, but just a relaxed/more adult one.


And after that I kept thinking about Hanne and... I'm writing a fanfic about him haha I don't think I will post in anywhere, I just need to stop thinking about what CAN HAPPEN with Hanne/Rasmus, Nina and Joran! haha


Juliane | 344 comments @ Bopeep
The ending to RoW definitely explains Bardugos comments about Never say never when asked in an interview about a return to the Grisha-Verse. Good to know she intends for there to be a part 3 for Six of Crows. I had wondered before what would be a decent opening for that. And some time down the road I would love to read what she can further draw out of this universe with maybe a few years disctance from this duology.

A few days on from finishing the book I love the ending especially for Hanne/Rasmus and Nina even more. Also the idea of Nina as a royal consort in the Fjerdan court is completely hilarious to me. I can see her enjoying the parties while complaining about the food. haha

Its very cool that you're writing fanfics, good luck with this one in particular. I have spent far too much time on AO3 after Six of Crows, there are so many great ideas for stories and scenes in this universe by Fanfic writers, its great how the Grisha-verse can be (unofficially) expanded in this way.


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