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Oct 15, 2009 06:05PM

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I have a prediction about Sam's dad. What if his dad was the one killed by the accident 15 years ago? I thought that would be cool.
Hmm, I don't remember anyone being killed by the accident. I haven't read it since August! That would be interesting, though. There has to be something about Sam's dad.
Oh that is interesting. There was one man killed by the accident, as I recall.
I've always had an odd feeling about Sam's dad. He's not talked about much and Sam seems to know nothing about him. I've always felt that Sam's dad is going to tie into this story somehow...
I've always had an odd feeling about Sam's dad. He's not talked about much and Sam seems to know nothing about him. I've always felt that Sam's dad is going to tie into this story somehow...
I know. There's something suspicious about the mysterious-missing-father character. Does anyone have any thoughts on Sam's dad?

Hmmmmm. :)
Well. I've been looking at Michael's twitter and here's what I've been taking of what he's been posting.
The books are: GONE, HUNGER, LIES, PLAGUE, DARKNESS, and LIGHT.
The cover/backcover for LIES is: Brittney and Drake (no visible whip hand) on the back, Sam and Astrid on front.
In PLAGUE there is more romance than the earlier books, but still plently of gross.
Lana plays a very central role in PLAGUE.
LIES is a "dark" book.
There is "rocky times" for the kids starting in LIES.
In PLAGUE there is big trouble in Sam and Astrid's relationship. I'm guessing that's adding to the "more romance" part, eh?
The readers are going to be "suprised" with his plot in PLAGUE.
Well. I've been looking at Michael's twitter and here's what I've been taking of what he's been posting.
The books are: GONE, HUNGER, LIES, PLAGUE, DARKNESS, and LIGHT.
The cover/backcover for LIES is: Brittney and Drake (no visible whip hand) on the back, Sam and Astrid on front.
In PLAGUE there is more romance than the earlier books, but still plently of gross.
Lana plays a very central role in PLAGUE.
LIES is a "dark" book.
There is "rocky times" for the kids starting in LIES.
In PLAGUE there is big trouble in Sam and Astrid's relationship. I'm guessing that's adding to the "more romance" part, eh?
The readers are going to be "suprised" with his plot in PLAGUE.
Yay! Thanks for this! I also read something about him "playing around with cannibalism, false prophets, and neo-nazis".

That really is a lot of info to take in! I had no idea that there would be so many other books! Now I'm even more excited! ;D
-The books are: GONE, HUNGER, LIES, PLAGUE, DARKNESS, and LIGHT.
Darkness and Light. Ach, Sam's power is the opposite of The Darkness! Why didn't I notice that before!
-The cover/backcover for LIES is: Brittney and Drake (no visible whip hand) on the back, Sam and Astrid on front.
No whip hand?! :P
-In PLAGUE there is more romance than the earlier books, but still plently of gross.
As long as the romance is balanced out, I'm fine with that.
Lana plays a very central role in PLAGUE.
What if she's involved in starting a plague accidentally? What if she has the power to make people sick too? Wait, but that wouldn't fit into her developing her power when she needed to be healed. Never mind. :P
-LIES is a "dark" book.
What does he consider the first two?
-There is "rocky times" for the kids starting in LIES.
A reference to our little alcolohic rock monster, maybe?
-In PLAGUE there is big trouble in Sam and Astrid's relationship.
*starts theorizing*
-The readers are going to be "suprised" with his plot in LIES.
He said that just to torture me. I MUST read this book right now!
Darkness and Light. Ach, Sam's power is the opposite of The Darkness! Why didn't I notice that before!
-The cover/backcover for LIES is: Brittney and Drake (no visible whip hand) on the back, Sam and Astrid on front.
No whip hand?! :P
-In PLAGUE there is more romance than the earlier books, but still plently of gross.
As long as the romance is balanced out, I'm fine with that.
Lana plays a very central role in PLAGUE.
What if she's involved in starting a plague accidentally? What if she has the power to make people sick too? Wait, but that wouldn't fit into her developing her power when she needed to be healed. Never mind. :P
-LIES is a "dark" book.
What does he consider the first two?
-There is "rocky times" for the kids starting in LIES.
A reference to our little alcolohic rock monster, maybe?
-In PLAGUE there is big trouble in Sam and Astrid's relationship.
*starts theorizing*
-The readers are going to be "suprised" with his plot in LIES.
He said that just to torture me. I MUST read this book right now!
I was not sure where to put this under. But here goes. I just found this. Is the the official one? I'm assuming it is...
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New Information i've scooped up about LIES:
- A major character will die (due to the betrayal of another).
-Lies is shorter than Hunger.
Annnnddd. I'll just post the answer to a question asked in an interview:
As you mentioned before, you’ve recently finished writing the third book, Lies. Can you give any hints about what you’ve got in store for Sam, Astrid, Albert, and the rest of the town?
Well, I had a fan write that he was worried that Sam and Astrid are becoming a plain vanilla couple. So I’ve got some major stressors in the relationship between Sam and Astrid.
The major theme of the third book is that of the false prophet, offering an easy way to solve problems. He’s a person who appears to be telling the truth, and might actually be; we’re not sure even at the end of the book. We’re also getting a vision of the FAYZ ["Fallout Alley Youth Zone," the area in which the Gone novels take place:] and where it might be going. We also have some scenes dealing with reality. There are big problems in town, including a major fire that burns down half of the town. And it’s not accidental.
Oh, and Brangelina are in the book.
Really?
Well, they don’t actually name them, but they’re there.

New Information i've scooped up about LIES:
- A major character will die (due to the betrayal of another).
-Lies is shorter than Hunger.
Annnnddd. I'll just post the answer to a question asked in an interview:
As you mentioned before, you’ve recently finished writing the third book, Lies. Can you give any hints about what you’ve got in store for Sam, Astrid, Albert, and the rest of the town?
Well, I had a fan write that he was worried that Sam and Astrid are becoming a plain vanilla couple. So I’ve got some major stressors in the relationship between Sam and Astrid.
The major theme of the third book is that of the false prophet, offering an easy way to solve problems. He’s a person who appears to be telling the truth, and might actually be; we’re not sure even at the end of the book. We’re also getting a vision of the FAYZ ["Fallout Alley Youth Zone," the area in which the Gone novels take place:] and where it might be going. We also have some scenes dealing with reality. There are big problems in town, including a major fire that burns down half of the town. And it’s not accidental.
Oh, and Brangelina are in the book.
Really?
Well, they don’t actually name them, but they’re there.

It doesn't look too much like the other covers. Something seems a bit different.
And as I said on the other post, is it just me, or does Astrid look pregnant?
And as I said on the other post, is it just me, or does Astrid look pregnant?
I think she looks like the same girl. Just the lighting and she's a bit older...
Dang...Astrid does look pregnant. Her clothing looks like something that a woman who is pregnant should be wearing. And she looks a bit..big. Hmmmm...Maybe that was the reason why Sam and Astrid have the huge amount of relationship problems...
Dang...Astrid does look pregnant. Her clothing looks like something that a woman who is pregnant should be wearing. And she looks a bit..big. Hmmmm...Maybe that was the reason why Sam and Astrid have the huge amount of relationship problems...

Well they did find a way to harvest food at the end of HUNGER but still...it would run out. I doubt Grant is going to put in a pregnancy though. It could happen but...I'm not sure. But dang...She looks so pregnant...
Well, a pregnancy would definately count as a "major stressor".
I wouldn't be surprised if someone got pregnant. I mean, a fair number of these kids are in puberty now and have those hormones going, and a lot of them seem to still be acting out against their parents old rules... o_O
So, the false prophet? Any thoughts?
What about the person who burns down half of the FAYZ?
I wouldn't be surprised if someone got pregnant. I mean, a fair number of these kids are in puberty now and have those hormones going, and a lot of them seem to still be acting out against their parents old rules... o_O
So, the false prophet? Any thoughts?
What about the person who burns down half of the FAYZ?
Yeah, same here. I slightly doubt that Astrid would get pregnant. She seems too smart to do something like that, but who knows? It's the FAYZ. Crazy things are happening. And pregnancy would be a "major stressor" as Rachel said. It could happen.
Hmmm. The false prophet. I doubt that's Caine. I'm not sure who that'd be. Grant said he was introducing new characters...
I have no idea. It could be Sam. I mean...he can turn something on fire, right? Like he did with Drake's arm...But I doubt it'd be him. He's getting kinda crazy but I doubt he'd set a huge fire. It might be the false prophet?
Hmmm. The false prophet. I doubt that's Caine. I'm not sure who that'd be. Grant said he was introducing new characters...
I have no idea. It could be Sam. I mean...he can turn something on fire, right? Like he did with Drake's arm...But I doubt it'd be him. He's getting kinda crazy but I doubt he'd set a huge fire. It might be the false prophet?


Yes, Astrid does look pregnant, and that would be a major stressor. And on top of that, Sam was always thinking about how much he wanted her in HUNGER. He kept saying that it was love, but there were other feelings, connected to the love. Maybe she really is pregnant.
I bet the false prophet was responsible for the fire, but got Sam framed for it. Everyone knows about his power.
I think I know where the powers come from. In GONE, when they find out about the radiation, Astrid says that it's been there all this time, seeping into everyone's drinking water. So I don't think it's directly from the Gaiaphage, but connected. Fallout Alley. "The mutation prefigure the FAYZ. Indeed, the mutations are the sine qua non ..." I think that the meteor that brought the Gaiaphage also brought, to use Quinn's hacking the universe analogy, the virus that caused the mutation.
Something is up with Sam's family. A father who was never around, a mother who knew all about the mutations and all that, one son who grew up with the mom and can start fires, and another who was adopted by another family, who can move objects with his mind. And Sam's mom just happened to get a job at Coates, where Caine went to school. So both Sam and Caine happened to get trapped in the FAYZ. And as Caine pointed out, their father had a very unusual first name and a common last name - the kind someone might use if they were trying to hide their real identity.
Wow. Very thought out reply Lizzie.
Sam getting framed for the fire was something I have not thought about before. It seems really likely. That'd be interesting to see happen if it does.
And the mutation idea is really convincing. I agree on everthing you've said, once I've read it.
I agree about his family. I've felt something off about it since the first book. I have a feeling we're going to learn something big about his father. We know nothing at all about him and his name is unusual and common. He probably has a different name and a secret. Maybe Connie Temple was in on the secret, too? I don't know...We can only wait and see.
Sam getting framed for the fire was something I have not thought about before. It seems really likely. That'd be interesting to see happen if it does.
And the mutation idea is really convincing. I agree on everthing you've said, once I've read it.
I agree about his family. I've felt something off about it since the first book. I have a feeling we're going to learn something big about his father. We know nothing at all about him and his name is unusual and common. He probably has a different name and a secret. Maybe Connie Temple was in on the secret, too? I don't know...We can only wait and see.

Well, since Hunger takes place 3 months after the Fayz, my best guess would be that Lies is about 3 months later. That's 6 months of dating in a situation where all of the kids (including those hormone-y teenagers) to grow up faster than usual.

Haha. Drake dead? I don't think so. Michael has already left hints on his Twitter.
There's a sneak peak at the end of Hunger? Since when? And can you not tell what happens in it? Thanks. :]
There's a sneak peak at the end of Hunger? Since when? And can you not tell what happens in it? Thanks. :]

If Drake does die, it won't be until the last book. At least, it probably won't.
You got a sneak peak?! Lucky! I am sooooo jealous! Do all newer copies of Hunger come with a sneak peak?
You got a sneak peak?! Lucky! I am sooooo jealous! Do all newer copies of Hunger come with a sneak peak?

It gives a little idea of LIES but not much...

Lies: Predictions
1. A major character is going to die as a result of the betrayal of another.
I think Diana is the main character who’s going to die (and she’s my favorite so this would make me really angry).
Why? Because Caine and Sam are in a pretty neutral place at this point, and Caine would need a gigantic catalyst to start causing more problems. As we saw in Hunger Caine acts irrationally when Diana is in trouble. It’s very much a siblinglike relationship in that regard, if he abuses her it’s okay (seen from him hitting her in Gone and the events that led to her shaving her head and contacting Computer Jack in Hunger), but if someone else tries to do anything to her (Drake) he flips out. Not that they have a sibling relationship in any way, just in the protection regard. Drake is clearly not dead (he’s on the back cover of Lies) and he no longer has his whip. He will likely side with the anti-freak group and cause the problems that Grant has alluded to. Despite what she says (“I’m just trying to survive”), Diana doesn’t have the best survival instincts (rejecting Sam’s offer to leave Coates, and staying with Caine while he was in his stupor), and she will likely think she is helping Caine while really, she is just walking into Drake’s (or someone else’s) trap. If Diana dies or is hurt (not by Caine himself) Caine is going to flip. I think that she will be the character to die in this book, and if not, she will be used as leverage at some point.
2. Astrid/Sam:
We know that there is going to be trouble in their relationship over the next few books, and I don’t agree with what a lot of people think is going to happen (Astrid is going to get pregnant?). Why? Three major reasons, 1. Because Astrid is “religious” and wouldn’t have sex in the first place (Mr. Temple already accepts this fact, unlike Caine with Diana but I’ll get to that later). 2. Because Sam makes a point of setting an example for the other FAYZ residents (who are already using adult vices like marijuana and alcohol, so sex doesn’t seem that far off of an idea). And 3. Because the “pregnancy” thing started with Astrid wearing a loose shirt on the cover of Lies. The books tend to take place over a few weeks, she wouldn’t be showing by the time the book ends. Actually I think that there is a chance of a character getting pregnant, just not Astrid, because she has enough of a plot going with everything else.I think that the problems are going to be over the seeds already planted in Gone and Hunger: Sharing Leadership, Astrid’s potential powers, and Little Pete. Little Pete is hardly in Hunger but every time he shows up its significant. But I don’t think Pete will become a gigantic issue until Light (the last book in the series) because they can’t get out of the FAYZ without him.
3. Caine/Diana:
As I’ve said before, I think that Diana is going to die, thus setting Caine off his rocker (for good this time). What I was alluding to before with Pregnancy is that I believe that Caine and Diana will probably have sometime in the course of this book. Why? Caine and Sam are maturing at a similar rate, and both of them expressed “urges” for their significant other in Hunger. But unlike Sam, who makes a conscious decision not to push the issue, Caine expresses to Diana that he wants to (“It’s never enough”), although she rejects him. Caine currently has quite a bit of leverage in the arena between himself and Diana (she fed him and changed his soiled sheets (ew) for 3 months, shaved her head, and worked as his spy, and he saved her life and can overpower her any day of the week, and overpower anyone on her increasingly long list of powerful enemies). Also, Caine is a much more twisted character in the first place, especially to Diana (cough*abusive*cough), therefore he is likely to go too far in his “love” for Diana. Of course, in the way books tend to go, she would get pregnant from this interaction. This would also provide an interesting bargaining chip for anyone trying to thwart Cain, his pregnant girlfriend? Also with all of the troubles in the FAYZ, pregnancy and sex aren’t unthinkable. Grant likes to pile problem after problem on these kids.
4. Lies is a “Dark” book
The word DARK is clearly not referring to the plot (because the whole series is very dark), instead I think “Dark” refers to the lack of electricity, they will be in the dark at night now, and we don’t know what kind of mutant creature could potentially be going bump in the night inside the FAYZ…
5. PLAUGE:
Apparently we are going to be “surprised” by the plot in Plague. Since every book is very clearly titled, with the major problem being blatantly stated, Plague will likely involve a sickness of some kind. Although we know that it will involve more romance. So maybe the pregnancy thing wont be that far off in Plague? I don’t know. Lana plays a central role, and since she is a healer…. I don’t know what to say, because I haven’t read or analyzed Lies yet… when is the damn book coming out anyway!?
6. Fire
A fire is going to be set that burns down half of the town. There’s been talk of “False Prophets, Cannibalism, and Neo-Nazism” in these books, maybe this is all three? Like the non mutant characters who’ve banned together will burn down a house where… OMG wait:
The fire chief is going to let the town burn down? I don’t think she would do that unless she’s dead… dun dun duuuunnnnnnnn.
Completely lost my train of thought there…
Wow. Long post.
Here's some replies:
Diana dying? Nobody has mentioned that yet. It seems likely. I was expecting the character death to be on the "good" side though.
I agree with what you said about Astrid NOT gettng pregnant. It's not in character. I don't think Diana would ever get herself pregnant either though. That may be lead to by my hatred for Diana/Caine but, It's what I think.
About the "DARK" idea. Really interesting. I never thought of it that way.
I don't find the idea of the fire girl letting the town burn to be that unbelievable. She's what, 13? Kids can't stop a huge fire from spreading. If she doesn't learn of it then she won't stop it until they don't have much of a chance.
Anyway. Nice post :)
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Diana dying? Nobody has mentioned that yet. It seems likely. I was expecting the character death to be on the "good" side though.
I agree with what you said about Astrid NOT gettng pregnant. It's not in character. I don't think Diana would ever get herself pregnant either though. That may be lead to by my hatred for Diana/Caine but, It's what I think.
About the "DARK" idea. Really interesting. I never thought of it that way.
I don't find the idea of the fire girl letting the town burn to be that unbelievable. She's what, 13? Kids can't stop a huge fire from spreading. If she doesn't learn of it then she won't stop it until they don't have much of a chance.
Anyway. Nice post :)

First things first...I REALLY think that Zil is the one who sets fire to the beach. I could also see Zil trying to get Sam framed for that. . . He may even be the false prophet, even though I'm leaning more towards a new character being that.
I 100% agree with the "dark" aspect of lies being literal, what with the whole electricity being down. Wow, way to notice that!! :D
Lol, dude when i read that Mr. Grant was going to kill a major character i seriously started hyper-ventolating. IF ITS DIANA IMA SHOOT SOMEONE!!! It better not be her.....the series just wouldn't be worth reading...idk, i don't think its her though. I mean, realistically, how would Caine survive three more books without her after the way he acted at the end of HUNGER?
I heard a rumor that a couple was going to "do stuff" in the fourth book...just a rumor but hmmmm.... Astrid pregnant? I mean yeah i know Sam is physically longing for her, but idk somehow i doubt in THIS book at least she'd get pregnant, though I won't completely wipe out the possibility of it EVER happening. Diana, idk, I really don't think she'd let herself get pregnant. They's use protection if anything...
Drake is DEFINATELY not dead. It is against the rules of writing to kill off your main antagonist before the end of the series. I wonder what happened to his hand though. . . anyway, he's gonna be back with a sick plan and ima die reading it xD
Sam's family...yeah there was a LOT less of anything about them in HUNGER, but i definately think there's more to them than meets the eye.
Yay, I'm excited for PLAGUE!! Sorry, i'm just a sucker for romances ;) And i wonder what it means by we'll be surprised by the plot. I can't wait!!



SPOILERS http://www.egmont.co.uk/gone/pdf/lies...
for reference
13 pages, very disappointing to me
But the "Dark" and the Fire are explained too.
Not spoiling anything, but we are a very clever group of people apparently.