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message 1: by grace , oh my god, shes insane (new)

grace  (thestateofgraceee) | 1383 comments As per i got this idea off tiktok
In honour of folklore day, to appreciate the lyrical genius it is, comment youre favourite lyric from each song. Even explain why if youd like to :)


message 2: by millie, lovermore (new)

millie (milliee_rose) | 1317 comments willow - I'd come back stronger than a 90s trend
basic ik but just so girlboss

champagne problems - i couldn't give a reason/your midas touch

gold rush - hair falling into place like dominoes

happiness - no one teaches you what to do when a good man hurts you and you know you hurt him too

long story short - your nemeses will defeat themselves before you get the chance to swing

its time to go - 15 million tears, begging til my knees bled


message 3: by millie, lovermore (new)

millie (milliee_rose) | 1317 comments woops i did evermore


message 4: by grace , oh my god, shes insane (new)

grace  (thestateofgraceee) | 1383 comments millie (taylor's version) wrote: "woops i did evermore"

yeah i was thinking wrong album girl but whatever makes you happy xx


message 5: by grace , oh my god, shes insane (new)

grace  (thestateofgraceee) | 1383 comments the 1- persist and resist the temptation to ask you if one thing had been different, would everything be different today?
-the overthinking is reallll

cardigan-But I knew you'd linger like a tattoo kiss
I knew you'd haunt all of my what-ifs

tlgad- They say she was seen on occasion
Pacing the rocks, staring out at the midnight sea
-gorge imagery

exile-Second, third, and hundredth chances
Balancin' on breaking branches

mtr-And when you can't sleep at night (you hear my stolen lullabies)

mirrorball- I'm still a believer but I don't know why
I've never been a natural
All I do is try, try, try
-real xx

seven- love you to the moon and to saturn
-so cute

august- Cancel plans just in case you'd call
And say, "Meet me behind the mall"
-i love the play on words 'meet me behind them all'

ill do p2 later xxxx


message 6: by grace , oh my god, shes insane (new)

grace  (thestateofgraceee) | 1383 comments writing that comment has lowkey made me fall back in love with folklore


message 7: by molly (new)

molly | 237 comments Cardigan-you drew stars around my scars but now I’m bleeding
August - to live for the hope of it all
Tlgad - there goes the LOUDEST WOMAN this town has ever seen
Mtr - and you can aim for my heart go for blood, but you would still miss me in your bones
Illicit affairs - look at this godforsaken mess that you made me
Peace - I would die for you in secret
The lakes - take me to the lakes where all the POETS. WENT. TO. DIE.


message 8: by millie, lovermore (new)

millie (milliee_rose) | 1317 comments the 1 - we never painted by the numbers baby, but we were making it count
we never followed strict rules or did anything traditionally but what we did mattered to us

cardigan - a friend to all is a friend to none
no one ever really likes the populars

tlgad - it must've been her fault his heart gave out
blaming her is the easy option. ffs why doesn't anyone blame him

exile - those eyes add insult to injury
being with someone, they should comfort you not make you feel worse about yourself

my tears ricochet- even on my worst day, did i deserve babe, all the hell you gave me
nothing ive ever done makes what you've done acceptable

mirrorball - and when i break it's in a million pieces
if you're gonna be the reason im negatively emotional, don't expect a 5 minute cry but a 3 month breakdown

seven - love you to the moon and to saturn
the only happy lyric out of this list i think

august - august slipped away into a moment of time
its so easy to lose something when you don't appreciate what's right in front of you

this is me trying - my words shoot to kill when I'm mad
ill try to be nice but if you hurt me i won't hold back

illicit affairs - it's born from just one single glance but dies and it dies and it dies a million little times
it only takes a second to feel something, but that will replay in your mind over and over once the person has left

invisible string - time, mystical time cutting me open then healing me fine
time can (in the words of electric touch) break your heart or bring it back to life

mad woman - good wives always know
it's the good ones that won't leave when they find out

epiphany - holds your hand through plastic now
can't explain it's significance without wanting to cry but it truly is one of the best lyrics of all time for me

betty - I'm only 17, i don't know anything
yeah pretty much

peace - now that i see your brother as my brother, is it enough?
eventhough we're basically family and are comfortable around each other I'm always doubting my worth, not wanting to get too close to anyone because it gets harder to recover the closer you are to someone and im scared one day you'll realise you deserve more

hoax - you knew the password so i let you in the door
when you've been vulnerable around someone and in a moment of weakness told them something about yourself then from then on you feel like you have to let them in since no one else knows that about you, sometimes you feel trapped in your own emotions and the easiest thing to do is turn to the person who's waiting, eventhough you should know they're intentions aren't pure and you should take longer to find someone to turn to but make sure they're there for you, not anything you can give them

the lakes - ive come too far to watch some namedropping sleaze tell me what are my words worth
the wordsworth parallels, also giving long story short vibes. i wont let someone come along and think they know me or can put me down when ive worked so hard to get here

and that is why i love miss taylor swift xx


message 9: by grace , oh my god, shes insane (new)

grace  (thestateofgraceee) | 1383 comments grace (taylors version) wrote: "the 1- persist and resist the temptation to ask you if one thing had been different, would everything be different today?
-the overthinking is reallll

cardigan-But I knew you'd linger like a tatto..."


P2...
This is me trying- its hard to be at a party when i feel like an open wound
Archer vibes big time 'they see right through me'

Illicit affairs- you showed me colours you know i cant see with anyone else
I see a double meaning in this. Some people interpret it as shes never felt this sort of love before, but i see it in the way that she now can't communicate to anyone else how she feels. She has to keep it secret. Its almost like hes given her something she wants to speak happily about then denied her the right to celebrate it.

Invisible string- time mystical time cutting me open and healing me fine
Time heals<3

Mad woman- takin my time, takin my time, cause you took everything from me
Karma fr xx


message 10: by Arianna (new)

Arianna | 212 comments The 1- I resist and resist the temptation to ask you “if one thing had been different, would everything be different today?” Super relatable idk what else to say

Cardigan-“you drew starts around my scars and now I’m bleeding”

The last great American dynasty-“in a feud with her neighbor, she stole his dog and dyed it key lime green” it’s giving girlboss so yeah…I do feel bad for the dog tho

Exile-“I think I’ve seen this film before and I didn’t like the ending” I have nothing to say honestly

My tears ricochet-“and I can go anywhere I want, anywhere I want, just.not.home” that’s how I feel at school everyday and I love the way she says “just not home”

Mirrorball-“I’ve never been a natural, all I do it try try try” no comment

Seven-“sweet tea in the summer, cross your heart won’t tell no other” I just like how she says it tbh

August-“wanting was enough”🤷🏼‍♀️


message 11: by Arianna (new)

Arianna | 212 comments This is me trying-“they told all of my cage were mental so I got wasted like all my potential, and my words shoot to kill when I’m mad, I have a lot of regrets about that” just amazing

Illicit affairs-the whole bridge is scrumptious, and it was SO good live

Invisible string-“isn’t it just so pretty to think, all along there was some invisible string tying you to meeeee” super cute

Mad woman-“when you say I’m crazy I get more crazy, what about that? And when you say I seem angry I get more angry” sooooo relatable

Betty-“standing in your cardigan” hearing it for the first time was unreal bc of that connection

Peace-“the rain is always gonna come if you’re standing with me” sad

I didn’t include hoax, epiphany, or the lakes bc I’ve heard them each like twice and I just can’t like them🫣


mona ♡ (wishbone edition) (mona_tv) the 1 - "you know the greatest loves of all time are over now"
no matter how good it is it won't last

cardigan - "chase two girls, lose the one"

tlgad - "and in a feud with her neighbor she stole his dog and dyed it a key-lime green"
10/10 would def do that for revenge again

exile - "i think i've seen this film before, and i didn't like the ending"
that feeling of knowing something won't work but still doing it

mirrorball - "i can change everything about me to fit in"
always having to play a different part for different people

august - "back when i was living for the hope of it all"
being young and not worrying about anything and living carefree

this is me trying - "and my words shoot to kill when i'm mad, i have a lot of regrets about that"
when you know the exact words to say to make someone hate themselves because they hurt you

illicit affairs - "and you know damn well, for you i would ruin myself a million little times"
being willing to give anything for that one person but knowing they wouldn't do the same

invisible string - "cold was the steel of my axe to grind for the boys who broke my heart, now i send their babies presents"
having moved on and not caring about old exes anymore

mad woman - "it's obvious that wanting me dead has really brought you two together"
i've been in this situation before lol

epiphany - "with you i serve, with you i fall down"
loyalty <3

betty - "will you kiss me on the porch in front of all your stupid frineds?"
bro you're trying to get her back but you call her friends stupid????


message 13: by grace , oh my god, shes insane (new)

grace  (thestateofgraceee) | 1383 comments WAIT NO my fave august lyric is the wine metaphor


message 14: by grace , oh my god, shes insane (new)

grace  (thestateofgraceee) | 1383 comments For context this time last year i did my gcse presentation on folklore so i can talk very detailed about august and the love triangle


mona ♡ (wishbone edition) (mona_tv) grace (taylors version) wrote: "For context this time last year i did my gcse presentation on folklore so i can talk very detailed about august and the love triangle"

oh my god i need to read that!! i wanna do that but i wanna hear your take


message 16: by grace , oh my god, shes insane (new)

grace  (thestateofgraceee) | 1383 comments I read an online dissertation on folklore/evermore as part of my research and it was amazing ill have to try and find the link


message 17: by grace , oh my god, shes insane (new)


message 18: by grace , oh my god, shes insane (last edited Aug 04, 2023 02:13PM) (new)

grace  (thestateofgraceee) | 1383 comments there are three songs that overlap and tell the story of a love triangle which I think is a very interesting feature to have in an album. Although these small details may not be initially noticed when you first listen to the album, Swift confirms that she ‘created character arcs and recurring themes that map out who is singing about who’.

the story of the three teenagers begins with track 8 ‘August’, which is from the perspective of Augustine, the ‘other girl’ James spent his summer with. It is based on her experience of the summer and dives deep into her emotions with her feeling both betrayal and sentiment, where I think personally, she was looking back with regret rather than bitterness. Swift writes that the month of August ‘sipped away like a bottle of wine’ which gives a double meaning: Augustine knew her summer days were dwindling and once the bottle of wine had finally slipped, she was no longer ‘drunk on love’ . This line also works really well because they were underage, so therefore wine would be illegal just like how their relationship was wrong and secretive.


James narrates the song with a strong victim mentality, claiming ‘I'm only seventeen, I don't know anything’. This is ironic, because in the song Cardigan, James’ girlfriend Betty says ‘when you are young they assume you know nothing’ which exposes the maturity gap between the two.


‘What are her words worth’? and literary references in Folklore, and meaningful songs.

There are countless other attributes to Folklore that make it such a beautiful album that could be talked about in a lot more great detail. Here are some examples.
The bonus track ‘The Lakes’, where Taylor Swift writes about the Lake District and its poets, showing themes of Romanticism in her lyrics. Taylor writes ‘tell me what are my words worth?’, and if you haven’t already noticed this has both its literal meaning and a direct link to William Wordsworth, i think its quite a clever use of play on words.


--- i might improve and add to this for fun lmao bc i did it a year ago


message 19: by grace , oh my god, shes insane (new)

grace  (thestateofgraceee) | 1383 comments ive cut tonsss out bc i dont know whether we are meant to share these or not lol

we probably are bc tons of people upload them to youtube


mona ♡ (wishbone edition) (mona_tv) THATS AWESOME


message 21: by grace , oh my god, shes insane (new)

grace  (thestateofgraceee) | 1383 comments millie did evermore and hers was amazing too


mona ♡ (wishbone edition) (mona_tv) its really well worded and i love the way you covered august i never noticed the wine metaphor to be honest


mona ♡ (wishbone edition) (mona_tv) grace (taylors version) wrote: "millie did evermore and hers was amazing too"

ooooo i love evermore!


message 24: by grace , oh my god, shes insane (new)

grace  (thestateofgraceee) | 1383 comments honestly i dont think i'd have become a swiftie if it wasn't for folklore and evermore


mona ♡ (wishbone edition) (mona_tv) i wanna say it was atwtmv that got me back into taylor a while back


message 26: by abbey (new)

abbey | 106 comments the 1 - "you know the greatest films of all time were never made" just makes you really think

cardigan - "you drew stars around my scars but now i'm bleeding" the pain of losing someone you love

tlgad - "I had a marvelous time ruining everything" so real for this

exile - "you never gave a warning sign (I gave so many signs)" the miscommunication trope at its finest

my tears ricochet - "and if i'm dead to you why are you at the wake" and "I can go anywhere I want, anywhere I want just not home" honestly this song is just a masterpiece in itself and it expresses the pain of betrayal so beautifully

mirrorball - "and when I break its in a million pieces" reminds me of building up all of your emotions inside of you and hiding them from the world until you just can't anymore

seven - "love you to the moon and to saturn" its more than the typical love you to the moon and back

august - "to live for the hope of it all, cancel plans just in case you'd call" the kind of love that has you doing this and the pain that comes after it

this is me trying - "they told me all of my cages were mental so I got wasted like all my potential" this is the worst kind of self loathing

illicit affairs - "and you wanna scream don't call me kid, don't call me baby, look at this godforsaken mess that you made me" the feeling of being so emotionally exhausted by a person but you can't say anything

invisible string - "hell was the journey but it brought me heaven" idea that there has to be some bad for you to experience the good

mad woman - "women like hunting witches too, doing your dirtiest work for you, it's obvious that wanting me dead has really brought you two together" idk why but I just love this line

epiphany - "someones daughter, someones mother holds your hand through plastic now" literally always makes me cry

betty - "will you kiss me on the porch in front of all your stupid friends" JAMES HATE CLUB HERE

peace - "I talk shit with my friends, it's like i'm wasting your honor" idk what to say for this one except for this is so heartbreaking

hoax - "your faithless love's the only hoax I believe in" its funny the things you can ignore when you're in love with someone

the lakes - "take me to the lakes where all the poets went to die, I don't belong, and my beloved, neither do you" I can't explain this one without sobbing so

in conclusion folklore is just a MASTERPIECE of an album that I will never get over


message 27: by grace , oh my god, shes insane (new)

grace  (thestateofgraceee) | 1383 comments Same the atw 10 min movie got me into being a swifite and folklore/evemore has kept me a swiftie


mona ♡ (wishbone edition) (mona_tv) omg i love the short film! i think rep and lover are what fed me into being a swiftie and midnights too


mona ♡ (wishbone edition) (mona_tv) ♡ mona ♡ (taylor's version) wrote: "the 1 - "you know the greatest loves of all time are over now"
no matter how good it is it won't last

cardigan - "chase two girls, lose the one"

tlgad - "and in a feud with her neighbor she stole..."


listened to my tears ricochet for the first time a while back and had to to add it

my tears ricochet - "you know i didn't want have to haunt you but what a ghostly scene" and "you had to kill me but it killed you just the same, cursing my name, wishing i'd stayed, you turned into your worst fears"


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