The Seasonal Reading Challenge discussion

20.8 - Nickels and Dimes - Julia103's Task - Loose Change

Since this is the Nickels & Dimes task, read a book in which a denomination of coin is found in the title (subtitles excluded).
The coin can be in current circulation or one that is no longer used, and slang terms may be used. The word may have a meaning in the title other than the coin. If a coin name has more than one word the entire name must be intact in the title. A partial name, such as "golden" or "half" will not work for this task unless it is common usage.
Plurals and possessives allowed but no other variations.


Required: Specify the name of the coin you are using, and the country in which it is/was used. If you are using a slang term, provide a reference to establish common usage.

Examples: Chasing the Dime (Dime, USA)
The Moon and Sixpence (Sixpence, England)
Quarter Share (Quarter, USA)
A Life of Loonies (Loonie, Canada)

Ka-Ching! (these work)

coin names: Dollar, Pound, Mark, Cent, Penny, Silver Eagle, Eagle, Angel, Noble
(books not mentioned in posts)

Farthing
Demon Copperhead
Twenty Pence Piece
We Are Legion (We Are Bob)
You Should See Me in a Crown
The Starless Crown
The Demon Crown

Going broke (these don't work)

The Golden Gate (not a coin name)
Half American: The Epic Story of African Americans Fighting World War II at Home and Abroad (not a coin name)
Mike Pence Book: The Biography of Mike Pence (not long enough)
The Final Revival of Opal & Nev (cryptocoin is not a coin)

The Golden Gate

Would this work?
Coin: Golden Dollar
Country: USA

Similarly, could Half be used for Half Dollar? (JFK coin in US)

Such as: Half American: The Epic Story of African Americans Fighting World War II at Home and Abroad

A couple more -

Dollars and pounds come in coins as well as notes, so do those work?

Germany used to use Marks - officially they were Deutschmarks or Deutsche Marks. Wikipedia has an entry under just Mark, is that ok?

And would Cent work as well as Penny?
I'm impressed how you got your task to match the name!

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On the same topic: how about any coin that has a multi-word name. Some are shown above, another would be American Silver Eagle
"The American Silver Eagle is the official silver bullion coin of the United States. It was first released by the United States Mint on November 24, 1986."

Can we use any single word from these?

Here's a wikipedia article on American Dollar Coins:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_...
I remember when I bought a subway token, the machine gave me change in dollar coins!!! So I know they are a thing, and do exist, and as of last summer, are still in circulation.

The intent of the task is for the name of a coin to be in the title. The "name" can be a common name/slang name such as "loonie" for a Canadian dollar or "two bits" for a United States quarter.
The meaning of the word or words in the title can be different, such as in A Life of Loonies where "loonie" refers to people rather than coins or Penny's Prom Dilemma where Penny is the name of a person rather than a coin.

If a coin name has more than one word the entire name must be intact in the title. A partial name, such as "golden" or "half" will not work for this task unless it is common usage. (Does "I'll give you a golden for this" convey how much you are willing to pay? Would people know this means "a golden dollar"?)

I will contact the moderators to clarify the task wording.

Replies to the specific questions will be in the next posts.

Lisa wrote: "The Golden Gate

Would this work?
Coin: Golden Dollar
Country: USA"

No, because "Golden" isn't a coin name in itself. (If you can document where people refer to golden dollars as "goldens" I will reconsider.)

Jen K wrote: "Similarly, could Half be used for Half Dollar? (JFK coin in US)

Such as: Half American: The Epic Story of African Americans Fighting World War II at Home and Abroad"

No, because "Half" isn't a coin name in itself. (If you can document where people refer to JFK coins as "halves" rather than "half dollars" I will reconsider.)

Robin P wrote: "A couple more -

Dollars and pounds come in coins as well as notes, so do those work?

Germany used to use Marks - officially they were Deutschmarks or Deutsche Marks. Wikipedia has an entry under..."

Any coin name is acceptable, regardless of whether the same denomination is also available as a paper bill/note. So dollars and pounds are acceptable.

The Wikipedia entry for Mark has a picture of a 1 Mark coin, so Mark is acceptable.

In the listing for Penny, Wikipedia says "The cent, the United States one-cent coin (symbol: ¢), often called the "penny", is a unit of currency" so I will accept both Cent and Penny as the name of the coin.

Kathy KS wrote: "On the same topic: how about any coin that has a multi-word name. Some are shown above, another would be American Silver Eagle
"The American Silver Eagle is the official silver bullion coin of the ..."

For the general question: No, the task does not ask for a title with a word found in a coin name, it asks for a title with a coin name.

For the specific example: The Wikipedia entry for American Silver Eagle says "Silver Eagle" redirects here and the pictures on the right-hand side of the page are headed Silver Eagle (without the word American), so I would accept books with "Silver Eagle" in the title.
For example: The Silver Eagle

Deedee wrote: "Here's a wikipedia article on American Dollar Coins:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_...
I remember when I bought a subway token, the machine gave me change in dollar coins!!!..."

Thanks Dee!

I remember getting Susan B Anthony dollars in change from a machine when buying stamps in the post office.

Canada and Australia also use "dollar" as their currency unit. Both of those countries have dollar coins, so dollar could be used even if the U.S. didn't have the coins.

Julia wrote: "Kathy KS wrote: "On the same topic: how about any coin that has a multi-word name. Some are shown above, another would be American Silver Eagle
"The American Silver Eagle is the official silver bul..."

Thanks for the info.

I DID discover there were other U.S. coins called Eagles, so that should work, correct?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle_(....

Kathy KS wrote: "Julia wrote: "Kathy KS wrote: "On the same topic: how about any coin that has a multi-word name. Some are shown above, another would be American Silver Eagle
"The American Silver Eagle is the offic..."

Yes, this would work.

Task wording has been updated. Hopefully that's a little clearer now!

I'm thinking of Farthing, if that's okay?

The farthing was a British coin worth a quarter of a penny, that was in circulation from 1860 to 1971.

Trish wrote: "I'm thinking of Farthing, if that's okay?

The farthing was a British coin worth a quarter of a penny, that was in circulation from 1860 to 1971."

I am using farthing too

Julia, promise not to laugh. But I have found a book that uses the word Pence (English coin called a five pence or twenty pence) BUT it's only 58 pages and the book is Mike Pence Book: The Biography of Mike Pence - University Press.

I am assuming this book wouldn't be allowed?

BUT I would like to read Twenty Pence Piece - Dean Tongue for PENCE please

Thinking about reading Demon Copperhead
Using
Copperhead coin (Vemidean currency) : r/worldbuilding

Thanks in advance

Trish wrote: "I'm thinking of Farthing, if that's okay?

The farthing was a British coin worth a quarter of a penny, that was in circulation from 1860 to 1971."

I was thinking of Farthing when I wrote the task. Definitely ok. (Also the sequels, Ha'penny and Half a Crown)

Cindy wrote: "Thinking about reading Demon Copperhead
Using
Copperhead coin (Vemidean currency) : r/worldbuilding

Thanks in advance"

LOL. I didn't exclude fictional realms when writing the task, so yes, I'll accept it. (If you do use this, please reference this approval when you post. I hadn't heard of Vermidea before, so I wouldn't assume that the moderators have heard of it either.)

Fiona (Titch) wrote: "Julia, promise not to laugh. But I have found a book that uses the word Pence (English coin called a five pence or twenty pence) BUT it's only 58 pages and the book is Mike Pence Book: The Bi..." </i>

As you pointed out [book:Mike Pence Book: The Biography of Mike Pence doesn't meet SRC criteria for length - the paperback is less than 100 pages.
But also I don't think "pence" without a number is a coin name.

On the other hand there is a 20p coin in Britain so Twenty Pence Piece is allowed.

I can't figure out why my comment is also in italics.

I think I will use bob - which is common slang for British and Aus coins. Just wondering if this works though - We Are Legion (We Are Bob) - the words in () are part of the title, not a subtitle, right?

Meg wrote: "I think I will use bob - which is common slang for British and Aus coins. Just wondering if this works though - We Are Legion (We Are Bob) - the words in () are part of the title, n..."

"Bob" is fine.

The SRC Default Rules say
5. What's the difference between titles, subtitles, and series titles?
The title is the name of the book. The subtitle follows the title after a colon. A series title appears in parenthesis after the title and/or subtitle, usually with a number to indicate the book's position in the series order.

So I think We Are Legion (We Are Bob) is ok because it doesn't have a colon, but you may want to check with the moderators in the General Help folder.

Julia wrote: "Meg wrote: "I think I will use bob - which is common slang for British and Aus coins. Just wondering if this works though - We Are Legion (We Are Bob) - the words in () are part of ..."

Looks like (We Are Bob) is part of the title - greyscale series names shows "Bobiverse" and various international editions appear to have an equivalent of "We Are Bob" in the title too, whether in parenthesis or not. I've checked a few retailer pages as well and they doesn't seem to suggest that "We Are Bob" is a subtitle either.

Julia wrote: "Fiona (Titch) wrote: "Julia, promise not to laugh. But I have found a book that uses the word Pence (English coin called a five pence or twenty pence) BUT it's only 58 pages and the book is [book:M..."

Julia, the problem with italics happens to me a lot- just delete the /i from the copied text and reinsert it, that should work. If it doesn't, delete again and place it higher up in the comment. I think it has something to do with more than one comment being copied

How about cryptocoins? Apparently there is one called Opal, and I was hoping to use The Final Revival of Opal & Nev

Jen B wrote: "How about cryptocoins? Apparently there is one called Opal, and I was hoping to use The Final Revival of Opal & Nev"

I don't know much about cryptocoins. Are they physical coins? Can you find a picture? I did some googling and found lots of price charts but the only pictures of physical coins I found were collectible Australian $1 coins with opals, not the crypto...

Julia wrote: "Jen B wrote: "How about cryptocoins? Apparently there is one called Opal, and I was hoping to use The Final Revival of Opal & Nev"

I don't know much about cryptocoins. Are they phy..."

I don't either, but I don't think they are, so I'll keep searching. Although if that Australian coin is actually called an Opal, I might be in luck. :) Thanks for the challenge...I never knew there were so many names for money!

Julia wrote: "Jen B wrote: "I don't know much about cryptocoins. Are they physical coins? Can you find a picture?"

Did a quick search since I'm no expert on cryptocurrency, but from the Wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptoc...

"Cryptocurrency does not exist in physical form (like paper money) and is typically not issued by a central authority."

Would the following work for 'Crown'
You Should See Me in a Crown
The Starless Crown
The Demon Crown

This website might be helpful for coin names:
https://www.bullionbypost.co.uk/index...

Sandra wrote: "Would the following work for 'Crown'
You Should See Me in a Crown
The Starless Crown
The Demon Crown

This website might be helpful for coin names:
h..."

Yes, a crown was a British coin so any of those titles would work.

Jen B wrote: "Julia wrote: "Jen B wrote: "How about cryptocoins? Apparently there is one called Opal, and I was hoping to use The Final Revival of Opal & Nev"

I don't know much about cryptocoins..."

Based on Jayne's post (#32), I'm going to say no on this.

But if you haven't filled in task 20.1 yet, Opal fits the target phrase for option A there.

Julia wrote: "Jen B wrote: "Julia wrote: "Jen B wrote: "How about cryptocoins? Apparently there is one called Opal, and I was hoping to use The Final Revival of Opal & Nev"

I don't know much abo..."

Thanks! That's where I ended up putting it :) Now back to the search for a type of coin...

Morning

I've had another thought. Can it be a as old as a C15-17 historical coin, such as this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_(....

Thanks.

Trish wrote: "Morning

I've had another thought. Can it be a as old as a C15-17 historical coin, such as this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_(....

Thanks."

Yes, that's clearly a coin and the task says "or one that is no longer used" so Angel and Noble would both work.

Cheers, Julia.

Quick question -- does the coin name have to stand alone as a complete word, or can it be part of another word? For instance, can I use a book with the word "Century" in the title for the "cent"? Thanks!

Mai wrote: "Quick question -- does the coin name have to stand alone as a complete word, or can it be part of another word? For instance, can I use a book with the word "Century" in the title for the "cent"? T..."

My intent was that for it to be a standalone word. (But since this didn't come up earlier I will defer to the moderators on how they want to interpret the task wording.)

Mai wrote: "Quick question -- does the coin name have to stand alone as a complete word, or can it be part of another word? For instance, can I use a book with the word "Century" in the title for the "cent"? T..."

"Plurals and possessives allowed but no other variations."

So unfortunately, no, the coin can't appear as part of another word.