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I'm going to nominate...
A Prayer for Owen Meany (1989)
by
John Irving
It's been decades since I read anything by John Irving but I have fond memories of reading his best known books in the 80s and 90s.
So far as I can recall I was quite taken with A Prayer for Owen Meany and would be very interested to see how it stands up through a 21st century prism
I feel the same way about Armistead Maupin who falls into the same category (but that's another nomination for another day).
Here's more about A Prayer for Owen Meany....
Eleven-year-old Owen Meany, playing in a Little League baseball game in Gravesend, New Hampshire, hits a foul ball and kills his best friend's mother. Owen doesn't believe in accidents; he believes he is God's instrument. What happens to Owen after that 1953 foul is both extraordinary and terrifying. At moments a comic, self-deluded victim, but in the end the principal, tragic actor in a divine plan, Owen Meany is the most heartbreaking hero John Irving has yet created.

A Prayer for Owen Meany (1989)
by
John Irving
It's been decades since I read anything by John Irving but I have fond memories of reading his best known books in the 80s and 90s.
So far as I can recall I was quite taken with A Prayer for Owen Meany and would be very interested to see how it stands up through a 21st century prism
I feel the same way about Armistead Maupin who falls into the same category (but that's another nomination for another day).
Here's more about A Prayer for Owen Meany....
Eleven-year-old Owen Meany, playing in a Little League baseball game in Gravesend, New Hampshire, hits a foul ball and kills his best friend's mother. Owen doesn't believe in accidents; he believes he is God's instrument. What happens to Owen after that 1953 foul is both extraordinary and terrifying. At moments a comic, self-deluded victim, but in the end the principal, tragic actor in a divine plan, Owen Meany is the most heartbreaking hero John Irving has yet created.



The strange and wonderful tale of man’s experiences on Mars, filled with intense images and astonishing visions. Now part of the Voyager Classics collection.
The Martian Chronicles tells the story of humanity’s repeated attempts to colonize the red planet. The first men were few. Most succumbed to a disease they called the Great Loneliness when they saw their home planet dwindle to the size of a fist. They felt they had never been born. Those few that survived found no welcome on Mars. The shape-changing Martians thought they were native lunatics and duly locked them up.
But more rockets arrived from Earth, and more, piercing the hallucinations projected by the Martians. People brought their old prejudices with them – and their desires and fantasies, tainted dreams. These were soon inhabited by the strange native beings, with their caged flowers and birds of flame.
While I'm aware this is another male author for the poll, I'm going to nominate The Constant Gardener by John le Carré:
This is not one of his Cold War books but it's John le Carré - there's always lots to discuss!
The Constant Gardener is a magnificent exploration of the new world order by one of the most compelling and elegant storytellers of our time. The novel opens in northern Kenya with the gruesome murder of Tessa Quayle--young, beautiful, and dearly beloved to husband Justin. When Justin sets out on a personal odyssey to uncover the mystery of her death, what he finds could make him not only a suspect among his own colleagues, but a target for Tessa's killers as well.
A master chronicler of the betrayals of ordinary people caught in political conflict, John le Carre portrays the dark side of unbridled capitalism as only he can. In The Constant Gardener he tells a compelling, complex story of a man elevated through tragedy as Justin Quayle--amateur gardener, aging widower, and ineffectual bureaucrat--discovers his own natural resources, and the extraordinary courage of the woman he barely had time to love.
This is not one of his Cold War books but it's John le Carré - there's always lots to discuss!

I gave up on that one RC. The first time that's ever happened with JLC so I'd be glad for a reason to go back to it as I'm sure it was just not what I wanted to be reading at the time, rather than any real issue with the content

Known as encephalitis lethargica, it disappeared as quickly as it came. But deadly while it stayed between 1916 and 1927. The book, set in New York City in the 1920s and 1930s, it follows a group of neurologists through hospitals and insane asylums, as a group of patients discover that the worst thing is not dying from sleeping sickness, but surviving it.
Although I thought I had a cousin in 1960s Ontario who had sleeping sickness. She didn't die from it, if that's what she had. I suppose by that time maybe they had drugs that would help one survive it.
I will nominate The Dig
In the long hot summer of 1939 Britain is preparing for war. But on a riverside farm in Suffolk there is excitement of another kind: Mrs Pretty, the widowed farmer, has had her hunch proved correct that the strange mounds on her land hold buried treasure. As the dig proceeds against a background of mounting national anxiety, it becomes clear though that this is no ordinary find ... and soon the discovery leads to all kinds of jealousies and tensions.
John Preston's recreation of the Sutton Hoo dig - the greatest Anglo-Saxon discovery ever in Britain - brilliantly and comically dramatizes three months of intense activity when locals fought outsiders, professionals thwarted amateurs, and love and rivaly flourished in equal measure.
I loved John Preston's non-fiction A Very British Scandal and Fall, so I would like to try this earlier work.

In the long hot summer of 1939 Britain is preparing for war. But on a riverside farm in Suffolk there is excitement of another kind: Mrs Pretty, the widowed farmer, has had her hunch proved correct that the strange mounds on her land hold buried treasure. As the dig proceeds against a background of mounting national anxiety, it becomes clear though that this is no ordinary find ... and soon the discovery leads to all kinds of jealousies and tensions.
John Preston's recreation of the Sutton Hoo dig - the greatest Anglo-Saxon discovery ever in Britain - brilliantly and comically dramatizes three months of intense activity when locals fought outsiders, professionals thwarted amateurs, and love and rivaly flourished in equal measure.
I loved John Preston's non-fiction A Very British Scandal and Fall, so I would like to try this earlier work.
Nigeyb wrote: "I gave up on that one RC. The first time that's ever happened with JLC so I'd be glad for a reason to go back to it as I'm sure it was just not what I wanted to be reading at the time"
I'm the opposite as it was the first JLC that I finished. I'd tried a couple of his other non-Cold War books but they were odd choices, the only ones available in the library, like Single & Single and I didn't understand the fuss. This was the breakthrough book and then I discovered Smiley...
I'm the opposite as it was the first JLC that I finished. I'd tried a couple of his other non-Cold War books but they were odd choices, the only ones available in the library, like Single & Single and I didn't understand the fuss. This was the breakthrough book and then I discovered Smiley...
Susan wrote: "I will nominate The Dig
"
Ooh, good choice! My archaeologist friends have recommended this.

Ooh, good choice! My archaeologist friends have recommended this.
Thanks, RC. Jan's choice is interesting too. I remember reading The Family that Couldn't Sleep and finding it such a fascinating subject.
Susan wrote: "Thanks, RC. Jan's choice is interesting too. I remember reading The Family that Couldn't Sleep and finding it such a fascinating subject."
Definitely - there've been lots of books recently about sleep: I've got my eye on Sleepless. I don't have full insomnia which sounds horrific, but can struggle to wind my mind down enough to sleep during the week.
Definitely - there've been lots of books recently about sleep: I've got my eye on Sleepless. I don't have full insomnia which sounds horrific, but can struggle to wind my mind down enough to sleep during the week.
Nominations so far....
A Prayer for Owen Meany (1989) by John Irving (Nigeyb)
The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury (Ben)
The Constant Gardener by John le Carré (Roman Clodia)
Asleep: The Forgotten Epidemic that Remains One of Medicine's Greatest Mysteries by Molly Caldwell Crosby (Jan)
The Dig by John Preston (Susan)
A Prayer for Owen Meany (1989) by John Irving (Nigeyb)
The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury (Ben)
The Constant Gardener by John le Carré (Roman Clodia)
Asleep: The Forgotten Epidemic that Remains One of Medicine's Greatest Mysteries by Molly Caldwell Crosby (Jan)
The Dig by John Preston (Susan)

Definitely - there've been lot..."
Chronic insomnia is no fun. I've had it all my life, as have almost everyone in my family. I was the only kid in the 8th grade with dark circles under my eyes. That was when I discovered I was in company with the rest of my family, saving my mother. They say it is not genetic but you couldn't prove it by us. It is not constant however. It goes in spurts.


The best thing about being retired is that I don't have to adhere to hours anymore. I no longer (usually) have to appear places at specific times.

The best thing abo..."
sounds great. Set your own schedule :)
Who else is nominating? Or thinking about it?
We'd welcome more nominations for anything set or written in the twentieth century. If it's your first time and perhaps you're not feeling confident please go right ahead.
We'd welcome more nominations for anything set or written in the twentieth century. If it's your first time and perhaps you're not feeling confident please go right ahead.

Last call for nominations
Nominations....
A Prayer for Owen Meany (1989) by John Irving (Nigeyb)
The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury (Ben)
The Constant Gardener by John le Carré (Roman Clodia)
Asleep: The Forgotten Epidemic that Remains One of Medicine's Greatest Mysteries by Molly Caldwell Crosby (Jan)
The Dig by John Preston (Susan)
The Railway Station Man (1984) by Jennifer Johnston (Hester)
Nominations....
A Prayer for Owen Meany (1989) by John Irving (Nigeyb)
The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury (Ben)
The Constant Gardener by John le Carré (Roman Clodia)
Asleep: The Forgotten Epidemic that Remains One of Medicine's Greatest Mysteries by Molly Caldwell Crosby (Jan)
The Dig by John Preston (Susan)
The Railway Station Man (1984) by Jennifer Johnston (Hester)
I've never heard of Jennifer Johnston but after a bit of research conclude The Railway Station Man is another tempting nomination. Thanks Hester
Thanks Stephen. Is that a nomination? I'll assume so
I'm keen to read The Secret History too
Any more nominations?
I'll get the poll up over the weekend so still time
Nominations....
A Prayer for Owen Meany (1989) by John Irving (Nigeyb)
The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury (Ben)
The Constant Gardener by John le Carré (Roman Clodia)
Asleep: The Forgotten Epidemic that Remains One of Medicine's Greatest Mysteries by Molly Caldwell Crosby (Jan)
The Dig by John Preston (Susan)
The Railway Station Man (1984) by Jennifer Johnston (Hester)
The Secret History by Donna Tartt (Stephen)
I'm keen to read The Secret History too
Any more nominations?
I'll get the poll up over the weekend so still time
Nominations....
A Prayer for Owen Meany (1989) by John Irving (Nigeyb)
The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury (Ben)
The Constant Gardener by John le Carré (Roman Clodia)
Asleep: The Forgotten Epidemic that Remains One of Medicine's Greatest Mysteries by Molly Caldwell Crosby (Jan)
The Dig by John Preston (Susan)
The Railway Station Man (1984) by Jennifer Johnston (Hester)
The Secret History by Donna Tartt (Stephen)
I would happily reread The Secret History - I think Susan and I floated the idea of a buddy read at one point but got overwhelmed with all the other riches of the group!
Just a reminder that the poll will go up on Saturday so if you want to add to our cornucopia of tempting delights we’d love to hear from you

Thanks everyone
After a bumper crop of nominations it’s now time to vote...
https://www.goodreads.com/poll/show/2...
Nominations....
A Prayer for Owen Meany (1989) by John Irving (Nigeyb)
The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury (Ben)
The Constant Gardener by John le Carré (Roman Clodia)
Asleep: The Forgotten Epidemic that Remains One of Medicine's Greatest Mysteries by Molly Caldwell Crosby (Jan)
The Dig by John Preston (Susan)
The Railway Station Man (1984) by Jennifer Johnston (Hester)
The Secret History by Donna Tartt (Stephen)
Bound to Violence by Yambo Ouologuem (David)
After a bumper crop of nominations it’s now time to vote...
https://www.goodreads.com/poll/show/2...
Nominations....
A Prayer for Owen Meany (1989) by John Irving (Nigeyb)
The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury (Ben)
The Constant Gardener by John le Carré (Roman Clodia)
Asleep: The Forgotten Epidemic that Remains One of Medicine's Greatest Mysteries by Molly Caldwell Crosby (Jan)
The Dig by John Preston (Susan)
The Railway Station Man (1984) by Jennifer Johnston (Hester)
The Secret History by Donna Tartt (Stephen)
Bound to Violence by Yambo Ouologuem (David)
The number of nominations might lead to some vote-changing later - I've certainly got a second choice in mind if my first doesn't get anywhere.
I've gone straight for a choice that is not my own (Secret History) though would love to revisit some John Irving too. So many good choices it's tricky tricky tricky...


Stephen wrote: "I loved Prayer, for Owen Meany when I read it a few years back, I've postponed my reading of The Secret History in case it wins, as you say Nigeyb, spoilt for choice."
You haven't voted yet, Stephen?
You haven't voted yet, Stephen?

A Secret History in the lead for now...
The Secret History by Donna Tartt - 5
The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury - 3
The Dig by John Preston - 3
Asleep: The Forgotten Epidemic that Remains One of Medicine's Greatest Mysteries by Molly Caldwell Crosby - 1
Bound to Violence by Yambo Ouologuem - 1
A Prayer for Owen Meany (1989) by John Irving
The Constant Gardener by John le Carré
The Railway Station Man (1984) by Jennifer Johnston
The Secret History by Donna Tartt - 5
The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury - 3
The Dig by John Preston - 3
Asleep: The Forgotten Epidemic that Remains One of Medicine's Greatest Mysteries by Molly Caldwell Crosby - 1
Bound to Violence by Yambo Ouologuem - 1
A Prayer for Owen Meany (1989) by John Irving
The Constant Gardener by John le Carré
The Railway Station Man (1984) by Jennifer Johnston
I think the first couple of months are quite busy for me - both in terms of group reads, a lot of NetGalley books, and work. I won't be suggesting a buddy of The Dig if it doesn't win.
Stephen's nomination has won our poll to determine what we'll all be reading and discussing in February 2024....
The Secret History
by
Donna Tartt
The original American campus novel. When Richard Papen joins an elite group of clever misfits at his New England college, it seems he can finally become the person he wants to be. But the moral boundaries he will cross with his new friends - and the deaths they are responsible for - will change all of their lives forever. The Secret History recounts the terrible price we pay for mistakes made on the dark journey to adulthood.
The Secret History
by
Donna Tartt
The original American campus novel. When Richard Papen joins an elite group of clever misfits at his New England college, it seems he can finally become the person he wants to be. But the moral boundaries he will cross with his new friends - and the deaths they are responsible for - will change all of their lives forever. The Secret History recounts the terrible price we pay for mistakes made on the dark journey to adulthood.

Books mentioned in this topic
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The Most Secret Memory of Men: A Novel (other topics)
Bound to Violence (other topics)
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With that in mind we're trialling something new
Going forward we'll rotate between a wild card month (anything set or written in the twentieth century), a decade (anything set or written in a specific decade of the twentieth century), or a twentieth century classic (a classic book written in the twentieth century)
February 2024 is a wild card month
So please feel free to nominate anything set or written in the twentieth century
Please supply the title, author, a brief synopsis, and anything else you'd like to mention about the book, and why you think it might make a good book to discuss.
Happy nominating