You'll love this one...!! A book club & more discussion

Rather than have numerous threads for each category, I'm going to revert to one thread only. This one.

Please ask to have only one or two books verified for a task if you are in doubt that it will fit. Don't ask me to verify any more than two, because essentially you are asking me to gopher for you. Find a book that you really want to read for that task, and ONLY ask to have it verified if you are in doubt. If it's obvious, don't even think of getting it verified. If I ask for a hand on the cover, and the book has a large hand on it, I would say that was obvious.

I need help. Curiosity is killing me. :)

Joke aside, no pressure. As far as I am concerned, you could post the info on January 1st. Really hoping to get it before tough…

Ok I am just checking to make sure that I am understanding.
So for the first task I could read Let's Take the Long Way Home: A Memoir of Friendship then I could read a book that also has the word long in title and read Long After Midnight and then for my next book read a book that also has the word night intact in title and read Midnight Never Come.
Or book 2 could also be a memoir - say The Woman in Me and book 3 could be a book that also has an of MPG music and read Love, Janis

I think you've got it Katrisa.

Awesome! What fun!

I was a little confused to start with and now feel I may have it.
Should the 2nd connected book be linked to the first book of next task. Hope I am not making it too complicated.

Now, I think I may still be confused. Do the links have to be the same, such as same word in title of book or can they be changed for succeeding books like I have done in the example.

For example:
Start - Bag End Hobbiton.
Task: Read a book with home, homeward, or homebound in the title.
1. The River Home by Hannah Richell
my choice - connected to start book - has word 'River' in title
2. Go as a River by Shelley Read
my choice - connected to second book- author has same first name.
3. He Who Drowned the World by Shelley Parker-Chan (2nd book in the Radiant Emperor Series)
Checkstop 1 - Bree
Task - Read a book that is the 1st book of a series of 4 (that represents Frodo, Sam, Merry & Pippin).
Connected to last book as it is part of a series.
4. Justine by Lawrence Durrell
(first book in the Alexandria quartet).

Odette, Janice posted a link to her example above. That may help answer some of your questions. My understanding is that you need to link the book to the book you just read. So, I think you have the first part correct, but each new task starts a new section without a connection, just a task completion.

So, for example:

Book #1 - completes Task 1
Book #2 - Links to book read for task one
Book #3 - Links to previous book (above)

then start over,
Book #4 - completes Task 2
Book #5 - Links to book read for task two
Book #6 - Links to previous book (above)

continue on with task 3 & 4, then finish with task 5.

Edit: She did not state that the links have to be the same, but they can be.

I think you got it Odette. Your examples work. You don't need to connect book 3 to book 4 (the start of the next checkpoint), but you can if you like. It will likely make it more difficult.

Janice wrote: "I think you got it Odette. Your examples work. You don't need to connect book 3 to book 4 (the start of the next checkpoint), but you can if you like. It will likely make it more difficult."

Thanks, Janice and Kristie

This looks like a wonderful challenge! You did it again! Thank you so much for all of your hard work.

I do have a question. For Checkpoint 5, Mount Doom: Read a book between 400-450 pages, do we also find two more linked books or does that task stand alone? Maybe I am doing my math wrong, but I come up with 18 books total for Badge 1 and not 16.: Where am I messing up?

How simple may the links be to be allowed? E.g. for the task "Task: Read a book with home, homeward, or homebound in the title" am I allowed to simply read three books with the word "home" in the title? Not very innovative, I know, but is it allowed?

This is great Janice. I won't tell you again how creative and talented you are for fear of giving you a big head 😉

Replies to other people have answered my questions on badge 1 anyway so I'm good to start.

I've reviewed all the postings for the challenge, and I'm not seeing an answer to my question. Can the next book in the link chain be as simple as the next book in a series? It would have a lot of connections to the previous book, such as genre, author, and characters.

Alert to Janice: Checkpoint 3 for Nala's World appears to be missing from the thread.

Also, thanks so much for the great challenge! Love it!

Sharon wrote: "This looks like a wonderful challenge! You did it again! Thank you so much for all of your hard work.

I do have a question. For Checkpoint 5, Mount Doom: Read a book between 400-450 pages, do we a..."

Mount Doom is the Finish, and will it my task is the last. That is book #16.

Camilla wrote: "How simple may the links be to be allowed? E.g. for the task "Task: Read a book with home, homeward, or homebound in the title" am I allowed to simply read three books with the word "home" in the t..."

Yes, it's allowed.

Emma R. wrote: "I've reviewed all the postings for the challenge, and I'm not seeing an answer to my question. Can the next book in the link chain be as simple as the next book in a series? It would have a lot of ..."

Yes, it can.

Sharon wrote: "I do have a question. For Checkpoint 5, Mount Doom: Read a book between 400-450 pages, do we also find two more linked books or does that task stand alone?

Janice wrote: "Mount Doom is the Finish, and will it my task is the last. That is book #16."

Is this the same for the four Categories? The Finish task is the final one? We don't need to link two more book after that task?

Janice, re links. I'm not sure how elastic the link can be. For examle, can the be to:
- narrator first or last name,
- MC name,
- year of publication
- month of publication
- position in series (i.e. book 3 of series A to book 3 of series B)

Thank you. Got it!

I am really struggling with tineye can anyone check this for black cover




I love this idea and am enjoying trying to be a bit inventive with the connections

Marie (UK) wrote: "I am really struggling with tineye can anyone check this for black cover




I love this idea and am enjoying trying to be a bit inventive with the connections"

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The trick with tineye is to make sure you uncheck where it says exclude background color every time. Not sure why that is the default, but it is.

It isn’t that I don’t know how to use it my computer is old and feeble (a bit like me) and it won’t let tineye do it’s thing all that happens is it shows me several covers of the book but no percentages. it is very frustrating but I am going to struggle with cover colour

Kristie thanks for the info

Lanelle wrote: "Sharon wrote: "I do have a question. For Checkpoint 5, Mount Doom: Read a book between 400-450 pages, do we also find two more linked books or does that task stand alone?

Janice wrote: "Mount Doom..."

Yes, that's correct.

Margo wrote: "Janice, re links. I'm not sure how elastic the link can be. For examle, can the be to:
- narrator first or last name,
- MC name,
- year of publication
- month of publication
- position in series (..."

Yes, as long as you can explain that the connection is valid, you're good to go.

Say, your first book is Call the Canaries Home. You could like canaries to the narrator with a first name of Robin. They are both types of birds.

Janice wrote: "Yes, that's correct."

Thank you, Janice.

Janice wrote: "Say, your first book is Call the Canaries Home. You could like canaries to the narrator with a first name of Robin. They are both types of birds."

Oh wow, we can really get creative! I'm liking this challenge even more, it may be your best yet 😊👏👏

When a word has to be found in the title or subtitle, does a series name count as subtitle?
In this case, the series name is printed on the book cover: "A Follet Valley Mystery"

Kabrada wrote: "When a word has to be found in the title or subtitle, does a series name count as subtitle?
In this case, the series name is printed on the book cover: "A Follet Valley Mystery"
"

Goodreads often lists the series name as a subtitle, though I'm not sure I agree that it's a subtitle. I added your book to my wishlist. When I saved it, it was listed as if it was a subtitle, so I will accept it. The series name was in brackets, which doesn't indicate a series name.

Margo wrote: "Janice wrote: "Say, your first book is Call the Canaries Home. You could like canaries to the narrator with a first name of Robin. They are both types of birds."

Oh wow, we can really get creative..."

Get creative as you like, just as long as I can follow your chain of thought. And, thanks, Margo.

Janice wrote: "Kabrada wrote: "When a word has to be found in the title or subtitle, does a series name count as subtitle?
In this case, the series name is printed on the book cover: "A Follet Valley Mystery"
"
..."

So, just checking - are series names accepted as subtitles now? Or just if they are listed as a subtitle? I'm guessing when you say listed as a subtitle, you mean that the series name comes after a colon?

I'm not trying to be difficult. I just want to make sure I'm understanding correctly because that title lists for me as Death and Croissants (Follet Valley Mysteries #1) both when I do a search & on it's book page, so I feel like I'm making assumptions that it is showing up differently for you when you add it. Just want to be sure.

Marie (UK) wrote: "It isn’t that I don’t know how to use it my computer is old and feeble (a bit like me) and it won’t let tineye do it’s thing all that happens is it shows me several covers of the book but no percen..."

Marie - I right click on the book cover and save it as a .jpg file to my desktop. Then I open Tineye (from my favorites list) in a second browser window and select "Choose file" and find the file on my desktop. Uncheck "Exclude background color from extracted colors" depending what you are looking for. Try it both ways because sometimes the results are depend on if you are looking at the background color or the other contents colored information.

For an example, my book The Tiger's Wife has a black background, but when the box has a check, black is not indicated at all. Uncheck the box and the black background is displayed as 83%.

I hope this helps.

Kristie wrote: "I'm not trying to be difficult. I just want to make sure I'm understanding correctly because that title lists for me as Death and Croissants (Follet Valley Mysteries #1) both when I do a search & on it's book page, so I feel like I'm making assumptions that it is showing up differently for you when you add it. Just want to be sure..."

I agree. I was just looking at Janice's answer and I see what you see, Kristie. I always thought a "subtitle" is included in the actual title followed by a : (colon).

The Farther Adventures of Robinson Crusoe: Being the Second and Last Part of His Life, and Strange Surprizing Accounts of His Travels Round Three Parts of the Globe; To Which Is Added a Map of the World vs The Further Adventures of Robinson Crusoe (Robinson Crusoe #2). Note: This is the SAME book, but the first is the "original title" and the 2nd is the "series" title.

Yeah, I had a momentary lapse there. No series name will be considered a subtitle unless it follows the title with a colon. Sorry Kabradra to change my mind like that. Argh!

Cherie wrote: "Marie (UK) wrote: "It isn’t that I don’t know how to use it my computer is old and feeble (a bit like me) and it won’t let tineye do it’s thing all that happens is it shows me several covers of the..."

I don't even save the cover anymore. Instead I click on "copy image address," then paste the address in the box on tineye where it says "enter image url."

Janice wrote: "Yeah, I had a momentary lapse there. No series name will be considered a subtitle unless it follows the title with a colon. Sorry Kabradra to change my mind like that. Argh!"

Sorry, Janice! I didn't mean to call you out. I was just confused because it didn't show up that way for me. I thought maybe it showed up differently when you added it to your shelf or something.

Kristie wrote: ".....I don't even save the cover anymore. Instead I click on "copy image address," then paste the address in the box on tineye where it says "enter image url.".."

I just click and hold the picture and "drag and drop" it to that box in tineye, One click does it!

Janice, is this bridge prominent enough for : Read a book with a bridge prominently on the cover.



I hesitate because, although it is big, the lemon is actually more prominent.

Margo wrote: "Janice, is this bridge prominent enough for : Read a book with a bridge prominently on the cover.



I hesitate because, although it is big, the lemon is actuall..."

My eye was immediately drawn to the bridge and not the lemon, so you're good to go.

Janice wrote: "Margo wrote: "Janice, re links. I'm not sure how elastic the link can be. For examle, can the be to:
- narrator first or last name,
- MC name,
- year of publication
- month of publication
- positi..."

If the first book in the series is read and for the linked books, would the second and the third book read from the same series be considered as links to the first book? Thanks.

Janice wrote: ".My eye was immediately drawn to the bridge and not the lemon, so you're good to go.."

Thanks Janice

I am confused the book i"Read a book that is the 1st book of a series of 4 (that represents Frodo, Sam, Merry & Pippin). " does it have to have some element that represents one of the four characters (admission I have never read any of these books and have no desire to) OR is the fact that it is in a series of 4 representing the characters.

Janice, I have two questions for you. The first is how would you like us to report to you for badges? I had a format in mind, but wanted to make sure it had what you wanted in it. I did not see the information anywhere, so was wondering if you had a specific format in mind for this year.

The second, I came up with while looking for the answer to my first question. You have this in the rules:

*New*12. Order of Books read: Each badge must be complete before you start another badge. Badges and books for each sub category must be read in order.

You may swap books from one task to another within the badge you are working on providing you mark your tracker clearly so that I understand what you are doing. Once your badge is received, those books are not swappable.

Was that second half just a leftover ruling that was left in? Or can we move books around as long as they are still read in order?

Let's start with amazing challenge Janice :D (see if I butter her up I may get a more favorable answer ;) jk)

And now, my question(s) may continue off of Kristie's?

So, everybody starts with the Lord of the Rings hike, but then for badge 2 I have to read 3 hikes.
- do the hikes have to be read in order (have to read hike #1 before reading hike #2), or is it anything goes (Pilg #3, City #1, Lit #3)
- can I be reading for multiple hikes at a time, just as long as the books within each hike are read in order?

I know, my questions are so optimistic, like I might actually get past Badge 1 next year lol

Viji wrote: "If the first book in the series is read and for the linked books, would the second and the third book read from the same series be considered as links to the first book? Thanks...."

Absolutely. Same series, same author, etc.

Marie (UK) wrote: "I am confused the book i"Read a book that is the 1st book of a series of 4 (that represents Frodo, Sam, Merry & Pippin). " does it have to have some element that represents one of the four characte..."

The 4 hobbits were the rational for the task to explain why a series of 4.

Kristie wrote: "Janice, I have two questions for you. The first is how would you like us to report to you for badges? I had a format in mind, but wanted to make sure it had what you wanted in it. I did not see the..."

Use the same format as previous years, both in your reporting thread and request badge thread. I just won't be tracking them until you request a badge.

You've got the second question correct. I think it's going to be trickier to swap books because you'll have to maintain the order and the connections.

Jenn wrote: "do the hikes have to be read in order (have to read hike #1 before reading hike #2), or is it anything goes (Pilg #3, City #1, Lit #3)"

The hikes don't have to be in order. You can so Pilg 3, City 1, Lit 3 will be fine.

After much soul searching (ha), I still think badges need to be read in order as well.

Further to my reply to Kristie, there is an additional item to report - you'll need to report how your books are connected to each other.