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message 1: by Kristel (last edited Apr 07, 2015 05:41AM) (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments Hello, friends! This is a buddy read between me (Kristel), Billy, and Honeypie hoping to tackle the proverbial and literal white whale, Herman Melville's Moby-Dick; or, The Whale. Join us! :D

Here is a copy of the audiobook for those who are interested.

I scrolled through an ebook version of the novel and found out that even though it has a daunting number of chapters (136!), each one is relatively short with a few exceptions. I then created a reading plan that has us going through 25 chapters every week except for Week 2 which has 20 chapters to finish, since a couple of them are pretty long. That would clock in at about 80 pages every week. That is doable, right? ^^;

The proposed reading plan will be as follows:

Week 1
Chapter 1 to 25

Week 2
Chapter 26 to 45

Week 3
Chapter 46 to 65

Week 4
Chapter 66 to 90

Week 5
Chapter 91 to 115

Week 6
Chapter 116 to 136

We can also add a sort of catch-up week in the middle in case we need it.

I took some information from an old event called Moby Dick Big Read (they also have chapter readings performed by different celebrities, in case you want an alternative to the audiobook.) Here are also a couple of articles arguing the continued relevance of the novel and advising newbies on how to tackle it:

"Why Read Moby Dick?": A Passionate Defense of the "American Bible"
Top 5 bits of advice for first-time readers of Moby-Dick

We can just adjust the reading speed if this ends up being too rigorous? Honeypie and Billy, when do you want to begin? Does April 10 work for you guys? We can then use Friday as the official beginning of the week, since it'll be easier for me to managed the thread on weekends. We can use the next couple of days having a bit of introduction to the work and talking about our expectations before we begin.


message 2: by Mabelle (new)

Mabelle Ortega | 139 comments I am interested... :)


message 3: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments Mabelle: Welcome, welcome! We'll try hard to make this as low-pressure as possible so we welcome all comers.


message 4: by Ycel (new)

Ycel | 662 comments Is the audio the one narrated by Frank Muller?


message 5: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments Ycel, it's by Bill Bailey.


message 6: by Ycel (new)

Ycel | 662 comments Seems that version is abridged? Anyhoo, may I eavesdrop? Have a three-month training so not very active in the threads right now. But I will listen during commute and will pop in as time will allow :)


message 7: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments I'll check when I get home and let you guys know, I had assumed through my... means... that it was unabridged.


message 8: by Billy (new)

Billy Candelaria (azriel) | 77 comments Thank you for the link. I found my copy of Moby Dick.


message 9: by Honeypie (new)

Honeypie (honeypiegb) | 52 comments Game, Kristel! :) I have a book, so I'll read from it. 80 pages, mukhang kaya naman. Sana I'm able to make time. :)


message 10: by Kristel (last edited Apr 07, 2015 05:43AM) (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments Hello folks, I've added the link to the audiobook on the first post! Let me know if you guys can access it.

YCEL: My earlier information is wrong, this one is narrated by William Hootkins and is unabridged.


message 11: by Billy (new)

Billy Candelaria (azriel) | 77 comments Let's go ahead then. April 10th a date with moby dick!


message 12: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments I'm curious to know what your expectations are for Moby Dick and whether you've had previous experience with the book.

I've tried to get into Moby Dick twice in my life, once when I was in high school and earlier this year. Both times I managed around 8 to 10 chapters? Needless to say, I've never even met Captain Ahab yet.

The reason why I want to read it is because it seems to be one of the most fundamental books of Western literature, and many different novels is a reference or homage to it. For example, China Mieville's Kraken and Chad Hardbach's The Art of Fielding. I want to be able to appreciate Melville's echoes in those books.


message 13: by Billy (new)

Billy Candelaria (azriel) | 77 comments I read the classics Illustrated version of this book. It tickled me on reading the book. Sadly to say it was daunting and overwhelmed or maybe it was not on the right time.


message 14: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments Billy: I remember feeling overwhelmed by the writing style too. It seemed very dramatic and epic. Have you read other books by Melville? I haven't yet, but his less famous works actually seem pretty short.


message 15: by Billy (new)

Billy Candelaria (azriel) | 77 comments Yup. Like Billy Budd. No i've not read any of his work. But this is a good start to read his later works.


message 16: by Honeypie (new)

Honeypie (honeypiegb) | 52 comments Hello Kristel and Billy! :)

Hmmm... Actually, I'm not big on reading Classics. But I'm doing my best. Haha!

I have this "not-so-good" habit of buying books that seem interesting, but never really got into reading them.

I guess one would be Moby-Dick. I got a copy of the book because I joined a giveaway, and I won! Moby-Dick wasn't the book I won, technically. But there was a chance to pick other books aside from the one that I won. And one of those choices was Moby-Dick.

Anyway, the reason why I picked it because one of my greatest, greatest (greatest!) dreams is to swim with whales. :) (view spoiler) And I guess it's a bonus that it's a Classic, and a must-read!

It's a blessing din that you initiated a buddy read, Kristel, because otherwise I would never have gotten to actually think to start on it. : ))

I'm not a fast reader, so I ask for your patience. Haha! I'll read from the book, because I love to highlight and sometimes make notes. I'm not very fond of audiobooks. Because for me, it means shutting out everything else, and I can't afford to do that. Hahaha and I'm trying to lessen my use of my earphones, as much as possible. (Nag-explain pa ako talaga. Hahaha!)

Anyway, I'll try to start, maybe later. I believe I need more time, as much as I can give, to keep up with the reading pace. Hahaha!

And who knows, maybe we can all watch that Chris Hemsworth movie, In The Heart Of The Sea. Or those two Moby-Dick movies. :) I'm not a big fan of watching movies in the cinemas, but I'm willing to try especially when I really enjoyed reading the book, which I believe that I will with this one. :)

(view spoiler)


message 17: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments Honeypie: I think valid naman yung mga reason mo for wanting to read the book! Actually at least 5 years old na yung hardcopy ko nung Moby Dick. Hindi lang ako marunong tumigil sa hoarding, lol.

I've come to really appreciate audiobooks because I end up using them whenever I have chores and stuff. Siguro na-train ako with listening to many podcasts so kaya ko na mag-process ng auditory information. However, I still prefer listening to non-fiction instead of novels, so challenge rin for me ang classic books as audio.

Nakalimutan ko na may Chris Hemsworth na movie! I think magandang ideya yang group viewing.

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Tonight mag-uumpisa na ko since long weekend kami sa office (woo!). I'm debating on whether I'll read the intro (at 15 pages kasi sya) or go ahead with the actual story.


message 18: by Honeypie (last edited Apr 09, 2015 02:28AM) (new)

Honeypie (honeypiegb) | 52 comments I remembered trying out an audiobook, and after a few seconds, I didn't like na. It demands a certain kind of focus that I can't give. Hahaha!

Read the intro na rin, kasi it could give us guidelines on what to expect. : )


message 19: by Kristel (last edited Apr 11, 2015 04:50AM) (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments I'm at Chapter 5 right now and the language can be challenging. sometimes the narration goes into great lengths but the action in the story is only about finding a motel room. I'm listening to the audio book but I'm often forced to consult the book.

How are you guys doing?


message 20: by Ycel (new)

Ycel | 662 comments I'm in Chapter 11. It's a bit slow until Ishmael meets Queequeg. Then the fun begins :)


message 21: by Kristel (last edited Apr 11, 2015 05:05AM) (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments Week 1 Check-In - A

1. Arguably one of the most important American texts ever written, Herman Melville's Moby-Dick begins with the iconic line: "Call me Ishmael." What is your impression of the first three chapters where you are immersed in his first-person POV, to the point that it's almost a monologue?

2. Have there been words or terms that are completely foreign to you? The third paragraph has "circumambulate" which is something I've never encountered in any other context. You can also cite unusual phrases.

Other baffling words: Euroclydon, Hyperborean, skrimshander.

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Ycel, this book had some surprisingly early cuddling between sailors. ;D


message 22: by Ycel (new)

Ycel | 662 comments Week 1 Notes
1. I can’t recall where I first heard the opening line, but it is so familiar. The first few chapters reminded me of The Count of Monte Cristo which I really loved, so this looks promising. I haven’t read any pre-Civil War American novels so this is a great way to immerse in the culture of the period.
2. My favorite new word is Manhattoes and had a good laugh, because these days they call themselves Manhattanites. I’m so tempted to call my friends from Manhattan as Manhattoes hihi.

KRISTEL:
That (view spoiler) so thoroughly intrigued me that I had to look up fan art to see how (view spoiler):
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And that (view spoiler):
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HEEHEE. Fun!


message 23: by Honeypie (new)

Honeypie (honeypiegb) | 52 comments Week 1 Check-In A

1. (view spoiler)

2. (view spoiler)

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I'm curious. Why do you think Moby-Dick is considered one of the greatest American novels of all time? I mean, what do you think makes a novel "great"? I know this is basic, but I'm just curious. : ))


message 24: by Ycel (new)

Ycel | 662 comments Honeypie said: "I'm curious. Why do you think Moby-Dick is considered one of the greatest American novels of all time? I mean, what do you think makes a novel "great"? I know this is basic, but I'm just curious."

(view spoiler)


message 25: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments Honeypie: I can probably just give a very simplistic answer aside from the one given by Ycel earlier.

(view spoiler)


message 26: by Ycel (new)

Ycel | 662 comments Week 1 Chapters 1-25
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message 27: by Honeypie (new)

Honeypie (honeypiegb) | 52 comments I just finished chapter 3! Wait for me. : ))

(view spoiler)


message 28: by Ycel (last edited Apr 13, 2015 02:47AM) (new)

Ycel | 662 comments HONEYPIE: Don't worry, I will be busy this week so had to read in advance. Will be checking the posts this weekend.


message 29: by Kristel (last edited Apr 13, 2015 04:09AM) (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments Chapter 1-11

(I'm worried that I might forget my observations if I wait until Chapter 25 to write about them since the story is pretty dense, so this is Part 1 of Week 1 for me.)

(view spoiler)


message 30: by Mabelle (new)

Mabelle Ortega | 139 comments Don't worry Honeypie. I have just finished chapter 2..

I wasn't aware that Afghanistan already made a name during those years...


message 31: by Honeypie (new)

Honeypie (honeypiegb) | 52 comments I will endeavor to finish Week 1 by Saturday. Haven't had time to read since my last post here. :|


message 32: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments Hi guys hi, kamusta tayo? Medyo late ako, nasa Chapter 20 palang huhuhu.

I'll post some check-in questions for part 2 tonight but obviously it's going to be more general and not touching on Chapter 26 and onwards.


message 33: by Honeypie (new)

Honeypie (honeypiegb) | 52 comments I just got home (view spoiler). Anyway, I will do my best to finish chapter 25 before tomorrow ends. Haha!

So far, I'm good with the sched. A little late, but I think I can catch up. :) be right back later. : )


message 34: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments Week 2 Check-In - B

1. How are you finding the nautical details in the story? Melville packs in a lot in Moby Dick, including historical sketches of port towns like Nantucket, as well as the economics of being part of a whaling expedition? Were you able to follow it or has it been a struggle?

2. What do you think about the relationship between Ishmael and Queeueg? Relatedly, how is Queequeg treated in the story by the various characters in it? Is there a difference with the way Ishmael treats him?

3. Do you have theories why Captain Ahab came so late into the story when he seems to have a supersized influence? Do you think this is a deliberate choice on Melville's part?


message 35: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments I'm just about to start with Chapter 26. I actually got surprised about my enthusiasm since I've had failed attempts to read Moby Dick before. The whaling expedition seems quite exciting now!


message 36: by Honeypie (new)

Honeypie (honeypiegb) | 52 comments I just finished chapter 25! Wow, I didn't realize I could make it that far! : ))

I'll share my insights soon. Medyo sabaw lang now. Hehe!

Pero on top of my mind, I like the religion/faith/belief aspects of the story. I also enjoyed reading The Advocate chapter. I felt like Ishmale/Melville was talking to me directly, but at the same time, I feel myself just nodding, "Ay totoo yan."

:) brb again haha


message 37: by Kristel (last edited Apr 22, 2015 03:36AM) (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments Moby Dick Chapters 12 to 31 - Week 2

(view spoiler)

I've put reading this on hold for a bit until I finish the YA book challenge by Maria.


message 38: by Mitch (new)

Mitch Tizon | 15 comments I just lend my copy to my boyfriend earlier. I have the tale of two cities here, I might borrow it back from him! :)


message 39: by Honeypie (new)

Honeypie (honeypiegb) | 52 comments Kristel: Let's extend 'week 2' this week? :) sorry, medyo swamped lang last week. I'm still at chapter 27! : ))

Mitch: Tara, sali ka! :)


message 40: by Mitch (last edited Apr 26, 2015 07:51PM) (new)

Mitch Tizon | 15 comments Yeah sure! Nag download ako ng guide questions :) and I have the book na! :3


message 41: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments Hello!

I'm at Chapter 40 of Moby Dick, so I'd definitely agree to an extension of week 2. Let's just officially start "Week 3" on Friday, May 1. Are you guys for it?


Welcome Mitch!! I hope you can catch up. As you can see, we are having a very relaxed pace here.

In other reading news: (view spoiler)


message 42: by Mitch (new)

Mitch Tizon | 15 comments yes I hope I can really catch up but I'm sure I will.

:)


message 43: by Kristel (last edited Apr 30, 2015 12:55AM) (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments Moby Dick - Chapters 32 to 45

Months into their sea voyage, Captain Ahab finally reveals his one true mission: to hunt and destroy the whale that tore off his leg, the white whale Moby Dick. The chapter where he gathered all his crew and made a speech was very dramatic, especially when Starbuck aired his protest. We also learn about the different aspects of whaling including the very very very long chapter on Cetology.

The later chapters delve deeper into the history of Moby Dick and his entanglement with Ahab.

My reactions and questions:

(view spoiler)


message 44: by Honeypie (new)

Honeypie (honeypiegb) | 52 comments My weekend is not very Moby-Dick productive.. :|

I'm still on week 2 readings. Haha!

But just to share some thoughts on week 1, which I missed out to answer, by the way!

Week 1 Check-In - B
(view spoiler)

Other thoughts:
(view spoiler)


message 45: by Honeypie (new)

Honeypie (honeypiegb) | 52 comments Kristel: Wala pa ako sa Cetology chapter. Haha! But I'm curious. Hahaha! Will let you know my thoughts once I finish that chapter. : ))


message 46: by Honeypie (new)

Honeypie (honeypiegb) | 52 comments So I'm reading the Bible, and I came across King Ahab. I've actually been reading a few chapters about him for the past few days, and I'm not sure why I didn't compare with Moby-Dick. (view spoiler)

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There was never a man like Ahab, who sold himself to do evil in the eyes of the Lord, urged on by Jezebel his wife. He behaved in the vilest manner by going after idols, like the Amorites the Lord drove out before Israel.

Wala lang, it interesting how Captain Ahab behaves in a similar way ("vilest manner by going after idols"), pursuing a seemingly "idol", aka the white whale..

And Jezebel, his wife! Soooo "sea-ish" hahaha!

Though I have yet to read about him more so I don't know if he's "evil" too. Haha!

: ))


message 47: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments Thanks for that info Honeypie. There is a lot of Bible symbolism in Moby Dick so far. There's Jonah and the whale of course, but Ishmael is also the be of an interesting poet.


message 48: by Kristel (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments prophet not poet ahaha. Hindi ko lang maedit dahil mobile ako


message 49: by Ycel (new)

Ycel | 662 comments Hello, guys! I am done reading the book and I am sorry I am not able to post as much as I want to. Currently drowning in a sea of work-related tasks. Suffice it to say that my head is now swimming in a lot of (useless) information about whaling. For example:
• Those encyclopedic entries about the different kinds of whales, so yeah, CETOLOGY.
• Words of the Worcestershire variety: forecastle (FOK-sel) and gunwale (GƏ-nəl) which appear in the book more than I can care to count.
• The steps in butchering a whale and how to remove the spermaceti.
• The whale’s favorite food (view spoiler).
• That upon death, the right whale (view spoiler) while the sperm whale (view spoiler) .

However, I still have no idea why (view spoiler). When you guys are done and know the novel fore and aft (wink, wink), I’d like to hear your thoughts about it :)


message 50: by Kristel (last edited May 12, 2015 01:44AM) (new)

Kristel (fanarchist) | 489 comments I've been sick with asthma and cough the past few days and was therefore too miserable for Moby Dick. I'm still at Chapter 48. :(

By the way, for people who are interested in reading *more* about Moby Dick, an academic named Cyrus R.K. Pattell made a chapter-by-chapter post about the novel in conjunction with the Moby Dick Big Read. You can find the post about the first chapter here. You'll just need to navigate to newer entries as you go along.


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