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 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
I was thinking about these today when I was running errands. Where would I fit in if I was part of a werewolf pack. Have you thought about this?

Would you be:
Submissive?
Dominant?
Alpha?
Omega?


message 2: by Nita (new)

Nita (gillnit) I have, and based on me in real life, I am pretty sure I would be a submissive. I am very quiet and shy and hate confrontation. Ya, I would definitely be a submissive.


message 3: by Danielle The Book Huntress (last edited Apr 12, 2010 04:48PM) (new)

 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
You know, Nita, I go back and forth on whether I am submissive or omega.

I think I might be omega because:

1. I don't like following orders
2. I am a peacemaker, I don't like fighting
3. I don't fit well into a pecking order. I don't want to be a leader, but I don't want anyone being in control of me.
4. I like to help others to be happy and content

I like that there is not ideal person in the structure. They all have their place. I think that's true in life.

Thanks for sharing.


message 4: by Fiendishly (new)

Fiendishly Bookish (fiendishlybookish) | 2 comments Definitely dominant but not an alpha. It would have to be whoever had the biggest bark and whether I would back down or not! Now...if he was hot..I'd definitely show my belly LOL!


message 5: by Nita (last edited Apr 12, 2010 05:23PM) (new)

Nita (gillnit) Danielle, I love the idea of being an omega, but I have to be honest with myself, and in reality I do not mind someone making some decisions for me and taking orders from other people. I do fine on my own and take care of myself pretty well; I just don't like making all the decisions all the time.


message 6: by C.J. (new)

C.J. Ellisson (cjellisson) Okay, I feel like I'm about to stand up in a room full of people an admit something bad.

I'm an Alpha. My husband doesn't mind and loves me anyway. ;-) And no, I don't carry a whip or treat him bitchy.

My friends all know it and they love me (or else they wouldn't be friends, right?)

Okay, I'll go sit down now and try not to feel like a freak. (which is what my husband lovingly calls me when I drive him nutso with my behavior).


message 7: by Tyia (new)

Tyia (rosebride) | 6 comments I would be Omega because I'm always the one to stop some sort of fight between friends or people I know, but get in my face trying to act alpha and it takes everything in me not to slap a person for being stupid. LOL


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
Nita, there is nothing wrong with being submissive, if it works for you. I think that we are wired the way we're supposed to be. I hate strife and discord. I want to make peace. I'll walk away from most fights, but I am protective of others. It gets me in trouble a lot of the time. I have serious control issues, that's why I think I am more of an omega.

CJ, you're not a freak! No more than Nita or I am. Nothing wrong with being an alpha. Someone has to be a leader, right? I'm not much of a leader. I'll do the work, and I'll let someone else take the lead.


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
I should add, I don't mind following orders if I respect the person giving them, or I feel I am being treated with respect.


message 10: by Ronda (new)

Ronda  Tutt (rondatutt) LOL C.J., I think it is neat that you are an Alpha. I am a Alpha too! I am a Army Veteran and so my military experience has brought the Alpha out in me. I moved up fast in the military - I made E5 (SGT) within 3 years and was immediately put into leadership roles. Even in my civilian life I was always in management positions - mainly personnel management.

I love being the leader and I love working as a group leader and with a group that functions well together for the teams sucess.

When I look back even when I went to college, I was always the leader in the group of study and when I raised my kids, I treated them like I was their coach all through their schooling. Even now that they are all attending college, I am still adviseing them and helping them with their work.

I don't if this makes any sense but I think some individuals were made to be leaders - Alpha

When it comes to my marriage, we share the Alpha role and always come to a compromise. My husband likes the fact that I am independent in my thinking and that I am a take charge kind of gal, I think that is what attracted him to me - LOL


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
Tyia wrote: "I would be Omega because I'm always the one to stop some sort of fight between friends or people I know, but get in my face trying to act alpha and it takes everything in me not to slap a person fo..."

That sounds like me, Tyia.


message 12: by C.J. (last edited Apr 13, 2010 04:51AM) (new)

C.J. Ellisson (cjellisson) Yay! Thanks Danielle and Ronda. And yes, Nita, I agree, it takes all kinds in life. The only way to be happy is accept who you are and go with it. I can't tell you how many years it took me to realize that.

As long as we never step on others, hurt someone's feelings or deliberately do something cruel then we've all done our best to get along.


message 13: by Ronda (new)

Ronda  Tutt (rondatutt) C.J. wrote: "As long as we never step on others, hurt someone's feelings or deliberately do something cruel then we've all do our best to get along. .."

I completely agree - I am the type also who doesn't like to fight/argue and I love helping others but when put under pressure or in a situation where it calls for someone to lead, I am your backbone and I become very protective and proud of the people I am working with.

I don't go looking for trouble but if trouble comes my way, I can handle it and always will try to find a solution to solve any problems quietly and peaceful first - LOL


message 14: by Kris (new)

Kris H. | 2 comments I'm pretty sure I'd be an Omega--this is the closest description of me in real life. I can't stand any type of conflict whether it involves me personally or not. I have to try to smooth things over and keep the peace. This seems to be the role I've always had in my family and it's also a big part of my job.


message 15: by Mariel (new)

Mariel (fuchsiagroan) I labelled myself as an omega pretty much right into starting Cry Wolf. I prefer to be in control of myself, but I absolutely can't stand being in a position of authority over someone else. I'd never be like Bran. I'm a little like Mercy too. Avoid confrontation and then sneak off to do whatever it is I intended to do in the first place.


message 16: by Nita (last edited Apr 13, 2010 03:04PM) (new)

Nita (gillnit) Thanks Danielle and C.J. I am happy with myself. I couldn't imagine myself any different. Life would be really boring if we were all the same. :D


message 17: by Darcy (new)

Darcy (sunnytat462) | 96 comments I think I would be an Alpha. I know my mind and will tell people, I am not mean about it, but you will know my opinion.


message 18: by SheLove2Read (last edited Apr 13, 2010 01:25PM) (new)

SheLove2Read (sherrih95) Danielle "The Book Huntress" wrote: "I was thinking about these today when I was running errands. Where would I fit in if I was part of a werewolf pack. Have you thought about this?

Would you be:
Submissive?
Dominant?
Alpha?
..."


I would be a dominant or maybe an omega.


message 19: by Carolyn F. (new)

Carolyn F. Sadly, I lean more toward submissive although my husband would jump up and scream his denial if he were sitting here right now. I'm not strong enough personality wise for an Alpha. I'm not calm enough for an Omega, unless calm can mean boring, then I'm definitely an Omega.


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
Carolyn, I don't think it's sad at all. Submissives have their place in the pack. I'm pretty laid back, and that might be construed as me being submissive by some.


message 21: by Ann aka Iftcan (new)

Ann aka Iftcan (iftcan) | 297 comments I myself am an Omega. My role in my family (extended as well as immediate) is peacemaker/caregiver. That was also my job when I worked. But--I was also in management, so I have no problems telling people what to do. I would NEVER be a submissive, just not in me. My Mum always said that when I was a kid I was the only o ne who didn't argue with her all the time. She says that I'd listen politely to her, think about it, then go and do what I wanted to do without giving her any verbal grief about it. lol, so yeah, definately not submissive. But, I was always the "calm" one too--helping others, working to keep the peace, putting up with being teased because I wanted to "mother" everyone. Well, the other kids would tease me until I evenutally lost my temper--then, after the smoke settled and the nuclear fall-out was over, they'd stop teasing. I have my Dad's temper--and his side of the family has a history of "beserkers" wwaaayyyy back and all the way up to now. Which is another reason I'd never make it as a submissive. spoiler alert, spoiler alert (And why I cheered when Mercy and Adam gave permission for the very definately Alpha female wolf to issue a challenge and then to fight the battle herself.)


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
I wanted to say thanks to everyone for sharing. It's not always easy to open up about your personality. I like that this question has no wrong answer. We're all different and the way we're supposed to be. That's what makes the world so great. I always wondered why I shirked fighting and strife. Reading Cry Wolf helped me to put my personality into perspective. It's okay to be the person I am. :)


message 23: by Carolyn F. (new)

Carolyn F. I feel the same way Danielle. When people first meet me they think I'm this bubbly outgoing personality but I'm not really. They'll say I bet you were a cheerleader in high school and I was the opposite - library girl. I like alone time a lot. I used to wish my personality was the way people saw me initially, but I realized that I'm totally happy with who I am. I don't want to change at all.


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
Carolyn, people always say I'm outgoing. I really am not an outgoing person. I'm very shy. I like staying at home, and I cherish my quiet and alone time. I need it to recharge. Like you, I don't see a need to change that very much. It's important to be true to yourself.

I like that about Mercy. She is very true to herself and comfortable in her own skin. Anna's learning that as well.


message 25: by Literary Ames (last edited Apr 15, 2010 02:42PM) (new)

Literary Ames (amyorames) | 5 comments Generally, I think I'm a beta. I'm a supporter of an alpha I respect, if I think they're making a bad move I let them know but if the alpha is down for whatever reason I'll step up and take over though I have no interest in becoming alpha.

I don't mind taking orders I agree with. I do have my submissive moments but there are relationships with friends and family where I am an omega, a peacemaker or an alpha. And sometimes I morph into what's required at the time.

However, most see me as submissive when they first meet me and I've realised its because I'm quietly sizing them up, trying to figure out what sort of person they are by letting them talk.

Danielle, I'm not outgoing either no matter how much my sister tries to change me, I like my quiet/alone time too much as well.


message 26: by N.L. (new)

N.L. Riviezzo (nlriviezzo) For me, it is kind of a toss up between being a beta or an omega. I predominantly display traits of both but it depends on who I'm dealing with. A lot of people I encounter though have this impression I'm submissive to a degree but in actuality I'm just looking for their weaknesses and to see if they are people I should make an effort to get to know. I'm shy and rather anti-social so I'd rather not waste my time on "worthless & weak" people. I don't think I could be considered an Alpha - I value my 'me' time too much for that - but I could do the job if it was suddenly required of me.

I think everyone displays an assortment of traits - some traits are just stronger than others. Werewolves are just 'locked' into one trait when they became werewolves.


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
Amy or "Ames" wrote: "Generally, I think I'm a beta. I'm a supporter of an alpha I respect, if I think they're making a bad move I let them know but if the alpha is down for whatever reason I'll step up and take over th..."

I think I have some beta traits as you so eloquently have said, Amy and NL.


message 28: by Bry (new)

Bry (utqtbry) I would have to go with Omega too. I would not want to lead but I wouldn't want to be controlled either. Also, I am a bit dominant but could never deal with the inherent fighting that would come with such a trait. I would also prefer to take care of everyone around me regardless of whether they were above me or below in the hierarchy.


message 29: by Regina (new)

Regina (reginar) | 110 comments I am guessing we each play different roles in different parts of our lives. I think at work I am both a dominant and a submissive, depending on who I am talking to. At home with my kids, I am a dominant. With my husband, I am a dominant, unfortunately he is too. :)


message 30: by SheLove2Read (new)

SheLove2Read (sherrih95) That's a good point Regina.


message 31: by [deleted user] (new)

Hmm.... I've never thought about that. At first I thought I'd be like an Alpha (I'm very headstrong). When in reality... I don't like to pick fights - but rather, I'd stand up to a fight so I could end it.

So then I thought I'd be Omega. But Omegas are rare aren't they? So, maybe I'm not classifying myself right.

I think I do familiarize myself more with Anna than I do Mercy though (who I consider dominant). And although my situation was different than Anna's - I think I resemble her in a lot of ways... or she resembles me. Either way, I see a lot of similarities.

I have a tendency to be very straightforward and headstrong like a dominant but at the same time, I do that to make a point or help a friend. ^^; I think my friends could be classified as submissive...so maybe that works out?

That's an interesting thing though... does anyone else classify their choices in friends by dominance? I've never really thought about that...but now that I do... I think I would consider myself one of the more dominant. Weird.. 0_o

So, I think I'll classify myself a dominant beta or an Omega, I'm not too sure.


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
My sister is definitely an alpha, but in all the good ways. I don't have it in me to be an alpha, unless no one else will step up to the plate.


message 33: by [deleted user] (new)

Wow... I never realized how much of a leader I am... I do have a tendency to be put in leadership roles. Whether at the workplace or socially. I'm either the boss of someone, or I'm the one who plans and enforces everything.

But I'm also the "peacemaker" of the group. I get along with pretty much everyone, all my different types of friends and family. I can mingle in any crowd. But at the same time, I don't really like crowds. ^^; Sort of a loner. So maybe I AM an Omega. I classify myself outside of a pack hierarchy. That makes more sense...or feels right, to me.


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
I think I'm an omega. I don't like fighting or conflict. I like peace and to spread peace.


message 35: by [deleted user] (new)

I'm going to have to put this question to my friend, who also reads PB books. I see her as a bit less dominant than me. I'd put her as a 3rd in the pack, or further down. She's very indecisive and doesn't really speak her mind. Whereas I'm sort of the opposite. I know what I want, and I'll get it. And if you don't like what I'm going to say, you'd better plug your ears - cause I'll say it anyways. I'm somewhat of a brutally honest person, though I do try not to hurt feelings. But I can't stand liars, and I refuse to be one of those people who lie just to pacify someone else. It's so juvenile.

Yes..I'm thinking I'm most definitely dominant in whatever pack I'd be in. :P


message 36: by [deleted user] (new)

Lady Danielle "The Book Huntress" wrote: "I think I'm an omega. I don't like fighting or conflict. I like peace and to spread peace."

Omega seems like a good medium to a headstrong person that doesn't solve difficult problems with conflict. I really see a lot of people as Omegas. Maybe it's only rare in PB world?


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
I think being an omega is kind of hard. People either want to treat you like you're submissive, or try to get into fights with you. Maybe there are more omegas than we think, but they are forced into other roles in society. I've noticed that people tend to think I'm a pushover because I don't like to get into squabbles. But, I'm actually very stubborn and strong-minded. I just don't like scenes or throwing tantrums. I despise it.


message 38: by [deleted user] (new)

Lady Danielle "The Book Huntress" wrote: "I think being an omega is kind of hard. People either want to treat you like you're submissive, or try to get into fights with you. Maybe there are more omegas than we think, but they are forced i..."

*nods* It's definitely different from PB's world than reality. But countering what you said, I don't believe an Omega (that knew she/he was an Omega) would ever allow someone to be 'forced into other roles in society'. Afterall, an Omega is an Alpha personality...just without the tendency for violence or conflict.


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
Well, look at what happened to Anna. She was so mistreated, she started thinking she was a submissive. I could see it happening in real life, but to a lesser degree.


message 40: by [deleted user] (new)

Lady Danielle "The Book Huntress" wrote: "Well, look at what happened to Anna. She was so mistreated, she started thinking she was a submissive. I could see it happening in real life, but to a lesser degree."

Well yah, but she only thought she was submissive because no one had ever told her of Omegas. Poor Anna :(


message 41: by Ann aka Iftcan (new)

Ann aka Iftcan (iftcan) | 297 comments I LOVE this thread. :o) There are a lot of us who think of ourselves as Omegas. But I have to wonder--how many of us really ARE Omegas? And how do other people see us? I put this question to a group of people that all knew each other and how people saw themselves was usually NOTHING like how others saw them.

I decided we'd this the whole thing on paper, without saying who said what. Basically I passed around papers to everyone with all the names on them, and space for you to check Alpha, Beta, Omega or Submissive. (btw, this was a reading group) All the names were in the same order and you had to mark for yourself as well as for everyone else.

The results were, to say the least VERY weird. Even doing it like this, the way people saw others was so different. The person that I'd thought would be voted "Alpha" only got 2 votes for them as an Alpha. And one of the people that I'd always thought was a submissive had 3 people who thought that they were Alpha's.

I guess it all depends on the situation and how you've interacted with the particular person before.

I got a LOT of votes for submissive. And almost everyone said that if I had been a little more assertive they'd have voted Omega for me, since I tend to be the peace-maker in our group. My daughter and Mother were at this meeting and, well, both of them almost fell off their chairs laughing at those sentiments. My Mum has always said that "Ann will listen carefully to everything you say, she might even say "OK" but then she'll go off and do what SHE thinks is right or wants to do." Which is why I really think I'm an omega.


 Danielle The Book Huntress  (gatadelafuente) | 574 comments Mod
That sounds like me. I have learned to listen to advice, and nod and say thanks, and I go and do what I think is best.


message 43: by Michael (new)

Michael Alphawolf | 1 comments alpha all the way. i'm in the military rose to be a Sargent in 2 years. always in charge on what ever i do and what ever i see is mine i'm always getting in fights with people who think their more dominate than me and i never lose. when ever i'm in a room people tend to look at me and listen to what i say "I'm large and in charge".


message 44: by Michael (new)

Michael Day | 1 comments Michael wrote: "alpha all the way. i'm in the military rose to be a Sargent in 2 years. always in charge on what ever i do and what ever i see is mine i'm always getting in fights with people who think their more..." it me but i forgot my password


message 45: by Shannon (new)

Shannon (BookWyrm3) | 2 comments I think I would probably either be submissive or a dominant low in the pack structure... definitely not alpha or omega. Even though I try to keep the peace when arguments come up, I think I have too short of a temper to be omega haha.


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