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My wife just got home. As she was driving past the local grocery, she noticed a table set up on the curb at the corner. There was a group of people there with signs, trying to get people to support their cause.

The signs read, "Pull Over and sign our Petition to Impeach Obama!"

Seriously, what planet are these people from?

Wow...just wow!

I'm just sick of it. Things are totally insane right now. I'm so scared of the next elections...

Well said bun!!!

I think a card-table on the side of the road impeachment drive would just make me laugh.

If that's how they think presidents are impeached...wow.

"Hey, look here Mr. Barack Hussein (heh heh) Obama, we got these here signatures on this piece of paper that say we don't want you as the president no more. What do you have to say about that?"

I say they're fucking idiots.

Phil, you should go back there... and bring a large poster board with you that says "Don't listen to these people. They're stupid." with a BIG arrow pointing towards them :)

Something in this vein:

I like stupid sign pictures.

If they are still there tomorrow I will get a few shots off to thin the idiot pool of their lunacy with my camera.

There's SO many of these... and they make me giggle each time I find a new one!!! :)

We watched Will Farrell's You're Welcome America: A Final Night with George W. Bush and it was hiii-larious! He basically said "Too bad for that Tiger Woods guy. I f*cked everything up but HE gets blamed. Hehehehe!"

I laughed my ass off, but then I wanted to go scream at all the Fox News watchers that they are complete IDIOTS! You know you're a redneck if... *sigh*

Heidi wrote: ""

Ok, that "HUGH" looks photoshopped. It's a paler shade of red.

Wasn't there a photoshop issue with a bunch of these teabagger signs? I'm sure some of them are real, but they can't all be.

I need to switch my photo hosting site. The pics were showing earlier and they're not now. Grrr...

I liked the comment in "Your 2 cents worth" in today's Des Moines Register. Someone phoned in the comment that the folks who were calling Obama a Muslim call themselves Christians. Where is the proof of their Christianity?

I may go to a local tea party rally Saturday, to see what it's like, and I'll take my camera and look for interesting signs. I think I posted this picture this summer but here it is again, in my town...

Also, I can't imagine a petition for which I would actually pull over to sign.

It bugs me that we always have someone outside of our library with a petition to sign.

Instead of getting caught in a debate and wasting my time, I look the person straight in the eye and say, "not registered" and keep walking.

I almost always sign the petitions for getting a candidate on the ballot. I figure it's the only way democracy can be open to all. Of course, I could be signing for some truly horrible candidates.

The impeachers were back today. Note the Hitler moustaches on Obama & friends. Well, you can't see Pelosi due to the person ACTUALLY SIGNING THE PETITION!

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Man, that is just sad.

Misha wrote: "I don't have a picture, but our local Tea Party group had a sign up in town recently advertising a candidate forum that said "Meat the candidates."

So wrong in so many ways.

I'll add that on a pe..."

well said Misha. I am one of those frustrated people, but I think Glenn Beck is an alarmist and gives normal people a bad name. Like any group/cult, there are people looking to be lead, too lazy to investigate and research their positions, and wanting to belong to something. Personally, I want to describe myself as a Libertarian but true L's don't really represent me, and neither do the D's or the R's. I think I am among a great silent majority that are socially to the left of center, fiscally to the right of center, values hard work, personal responsibility, education, and equal opportunity vs. equal outcomes. Also I want a candidate that lives what he is campaigning ie. if you are campaigning on morality you better live it and if you are campaigning social responsibility, environmentalism, etc, you better not live in a 35 room mansion and jet around on your private plane, etc. Is this really too much to ask?!

Except for the very last bit that describes me as well.

how can they paint hitler mustaches on obama when they say he's a socialist/communist or are those other people?

That petition signer is wearing very unflattering jeans.

I really dislike Nancy Pelosi, for the record, but I wouldn't paint a mustache on her.

janine wrote: "how can they paint hitler mustaches on obama when they say he's a socialist/communist or are those other people?"

Because they're ignorant.

That sums it up.

I guess not enough people would recognize a Stalin moustache.

now i'm thinking of tom selleck waterfall sandwiches. where's that url when i need it?

http://selleckwaterfallsandwich.tumbl...

Wtf?? Oh internet. Lol.

Not gonna look at that one. Eeeew. It's already implanted in my head.

I am uh well by now I'm speechless by the state of things today. The percentage of the country who believes Obama is a Muslim has risen to an alarming state.

I used to frequent an MS sight, and were my eyes opened - I couldn't believe all the Christian (I will pray for you), rants about the health care reforms (so um, you want it to stay the same, you with a debilitating disease, that's really working for you?),etc. Heh, someone then started an atheist thread, and I have never seen so much hate that descended on any topic before.

Yeah, I never understood the libertarian approach to healthcare. Let's see: You're angrier that the government is going to intervene to try to improve your care than you are about the fact that you have a disease.

The Libertarian view is simple. Give me control and keep the government out of my business. That is all.

I am really pissed now, they've gone too far! Anti-masturbation! http://jezebel.com/5636629/anti+mastu...

"Chaste" Christine O'Donnell Said She'd Stop Entire Country From Having Sex

Here's a Friday afternoon snack: just-unearthed footage of Christine O'Donnell from a 2003 Scarborough Country panel discussion, during which O'Donnell claimed to have "remain[ed] chaste" and also said it was possible to stop all of America from having sex.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Uur5...

She's a young woman in her 30s and she's stayed chaste. Gawd. Repressed just a bit? It's because of that orgy she had at that Satanic ritual, scarred her for life!

"You're gonna stop the whole country from having sex?'

"It's unrealistic they're just gonna do it anyway. Kids are not dogs in heat..."

OK, who here as a teen was a dog in heat, bitches!

Get your kids a Tea Party coloring book so they can be indoctrinated from the start! http://jezebel.com/5650281/tea-party-...

Curiously, it says that it goes into history of the tea party, yet the roots and what is present are so different.

How many of us truly believe that we're being fairly represented in our local, state, and federal governments? We just go along with a corrupt system. Term limits would kick out the career politicians and ensure that elected officials were there to truly serve the people who elected them. And no more campaign contributions from individuals or corporations. Give each candidate free air time to state his/her platform, and free air time for debates (required). The airwaves belong to the Federal government, and everyone has a TV these days. No more spending millions of dollars campaigning. This way, even an Abraham Lincoln type of candidate could have a shot. What do you think?

How bout the fact that Politicians USED to have day jobs? I guess that's not entirely practical today...but I wonder if they didn't get paid so much; would they'd still do it?

Okay, I may be wrong here, but it was my understanding (from in my opinion a credible source) that politicians in the beginning of our country had regular jobs and then served as congressmen or senators or whatever as well. It wasn't how they made a living.

you are absolutely correct Amelia!

they participated in government for one or two terms and then went back to the ranch, the Dr.'s office, the military, whatever. They were not career politicians which is one of the primary problems with our government today. Politicians are out of touch with the people. that is all.

Being a career politician isn't necessarily problematic. A bigger problem is the revolving door, where politicians use their time in office to accrue power and influence and political expertise and immerse themselves in the lobbying world (unavoidable as they're all in bed together) and then leave office and become lobbyists and lobby their former colleagues and make a ton of money doing so. Politics is big business.

So, what do you think about term limits and putting all candidates on an even playing field with equal air time, and taking the money and the lobbyists out of the equation?

If only.

Sounds good to me, too. I severely disagree with the "money=speech" decision. It takes money to get ads on the air, not just asking nicely.
I would like to see candidates get equal time to present their positions. And I would like journalists to fact check, which they do.
I need way less editorializing, and way less spin, then what I get now.

Scout wrote: "So, what do you think about term limits and putting all candidates on an even playing field with equal air time, and taking the money and the lobbyists out of the equation?"

At least in America (other democracies have improved in this regard through their election laws and regulations, though historically most shared the same condition, and still do to a large extent) political leaders have never really been “of the people.” And in many quarters (Edmund Burke I believe) the view has been that voters should elect persons they believe best qualified, and then rely upon those elected to use their wisdom and judgment to make decisions, rather than being direct conduits of the ephemeral views of their constituents.

Because there are no laws in America that effectively control contributions and spending, and even more importantly, the length of campaigns, and the amount of television advertising allowed for example, American politics is influenced to an extraordinary degree by money and powerful interests, and of course, is awash in the trivia associated with campaigns more akin to marketing ventures than discussions of public policy.


But wishing for effective reform (which I certainly do) is futile as long as the landmark Supreme Court decision Buckley v. Valejo, which essentially equates money with speech, and thereby provides First Amendment protection to political spending, continues to stand. And there’s next to no chance in the foreseeable future (or perhaps ever) that this will change.