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In recent viewing of the news, there is no help but wondering if the tribulation is coming closer. With the 3 thousand something birds falling dead out of the sky in Arkansas, and the thousands of fish dieing, do you think its a warning from God? And do you think that in 2011, the stage will be set for the Antichrist?

It's so freaky about the birds and fish. I definitely think its a sign of the tribulation, there's supposed to be famine.
I think the stage has been being set for the Antichrist for a while now. Gradually so it will only seem natural for unbelievers to turn to him when the world is in crisis and millions of people suddenly go missing (the rapture).

Also, I saw this article in the newspaper a while ago about how smartphones are going to be replacing credit cards by putting a tiny chip on them.
Simplifies everything just to have to carry your phone and not a wallet, right?
What's more simple than not having to carry anything b/c the chip is in the forehead or hand?
Just a thought...

Now, I'm not making any statements, only shooting out theories, but don't you think it's possible that they died from the cold? Or maybe they died because of the stress from the fireworks. If it was a sign of the tribulation, why is it only happening in certain places and not all over the world?

After how many years of it being cold? No, I don't think that's it.
They were saying that the bird's beaks all had trauma, like they hit something.
What in the world did ALL of them hit to kill them?

Not everything is going to happen all over the place, there have been alot of strange things happening in different places - earthquakes, tornadoes, etc.
I'm not saying the birds and fish definitely are a sign, but I think it's highly possible.

Well, earthquakes and tornadoes have always been around, and it can have something to do with the poles changing.

Yes, the bird have trauma, which could likely be caused by insane amounts of fireworks. Didn't that just become legal on NewYears in the US?

Emma (Snowy thoughts) wrote: "Well, earthquakes and tornadoes have always been around, and it can have something to do with the poles changing."

I was referring to the severity and unusual occurrences of those things. Not that they ever happened.
True, it can be from the poles changing, but it might be something else. We just don't know. That's why we need to be ready.

I don't know, that seems like an awful big coincidence that they would all have the exact same trauma.
But still, it isn't just happening in the US. They're in Italy, Sweden, Canada. So far.
The dead fish are showing up in Brazil. Dead crabs in England.

As I said, it's not necessarily a sign, but I'm thinking it's possible.

That's why we need to be ready.

How do you get ready for the tribulation? How do you prepare yourself?

I don't know, that seems like an awful big coincidence that they would all have the exact same trauma.

Does it really? I mean, they're all birds, and would therefor be somewhat similar. So cold and/or fireworks might possibly affect them in the same way.


But still, it isn't just happening in the US. They're in Italy, Sweden, Canada.

That's what I find weird. How come it happens in Sweden, but not in Denmark and Norway?

Emma (Snowy thoughts) wrote: "That's why we need to be ready.

How do you get ready for the tribulation? How do you prepare yourself?

I don't know, that seems like an awful big coincidence that they would all have the exact sa..."

All we can do is just make sure our faith is strong

Does it really? I mean, they're all birds, and would therefor be somewhat similar. So cold and/or fireworks might possibly affect them in the same way

But what about the fish and the crabs? I doubt that fireworks killed them.
Anyway, there is no denying that this is not your everyday event, and I think that God did it. Sure fireworks might of scared the birds, but over all it was in His plan

Emma (Snowy thoughts) wrote: "How do you get ready for the tribulation? How do you prepare yourself?"

Well, you prepare by making sure you are always ready to meet God face to face.(something we can all probably work on - I know I can) Because really whether it's the end times or not, none of us are guaranteed another minute on earth. Anything could happen at any moment and we could be in eternity.
But also we can help draw other people's attention to the fact that the end may be very near. Alot of people like to live like they have forever and never think about the consequences of their actions.

Nobody knows when Jesus will come back but God doesn't want us to be completely surprised when it's time. Which is why He gives us certain things to look for.

http://www.jeremiahproject.com/prophe...

One thing I always wondered about when I was growing up was when the Bible says that at the 2nd coming, the entire world will be able to see Jesus(and I think it also says how the whole world will be able to see the 2 witnesses who are killed, I'd have to go back and look at it to be sure, though).
I didn't get how that could happen. But that was before the internet became what it is. Before smartphones and tvs in every supermarket.

I might be wrong, of course, no one really knows when it will be. Paul thought it would be in his time.
But I really do think it will be soon, everything that's going on indicates it.
Honestly I have a hard time understanding how God has put up with us this long. It shows how truly longsuffering He is.


"Does it really? I mean, they're all birds, and would therefor be somewhat similar. So cold and/or fireworks might possibly affect them in the same way."

Maybe if you were talking about a handful of them, but not thousands.
Let's say that was the case, there was a huge flock of birds and they flew into the path for fireworks. A few would probably suffer much worse than beak damage and some might not. But the majority of them are going to get out of the way as part of their survival instincts.
And birds have migratory patterns to deal with the cold. Some of them can take it and some can't. The ones who can't go where it's warmer. It's always been that way. Why would it suddenly be so different?

It's more likely that there is some unknown factor that accounts for it. But even if it is explainable by what you suggested or some other means, it very well could still be a sign of end times. Something doesn't have to be unexplainable to be a sign. The result is still the same.

Also, I'm not sure if it's still an issue since I haven't looked into it in a while, but not too long ago I was hearing about all the bees dying off. Which would be a HUGE problem for earth's food supply.

Again, another possible sign of the end times - famine.

"That's what I find weird. How come it happens in Sweden, but not in Denmark and Norway?"

Not yet. Maybe it will maybe it won't. Maybe it was just a freak occurrence(s). No one really knows yet.

I kinda hope it's not the end. I mean, it's not that I don't want to be with God and all, but I'd like to live my life first.

I know, I kinda feel the same way.

same here

"For we know the whole creation groans and travails in pain together." Romans 8:22. This happened at the Curse.

The sheer fact of the matter is Christian have been living in "the last days" since Jesus died. The Apostles and early Christian thought Jesus would return immediately for them. The signs are merely an indication for us who know to remember and live every day prepared for "of that day and hour no man knows, no, not the the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." Mark 13:32

Titus 2:11-14
For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. It teaches us to say "No" to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.
Each day that we awake, is a gift from God.I have 5 children,7 grandchildren, 2 more on the way, and I want to live a long blessed life, but I too realize that I must have my heart right with God because we don't know when the time will come that we will meet our Lord- face to face.
"If something's wrong or broke-Fix it, and live each day the fullest. Create memories that wil last from generation to generation and bless them as they remember you!"

I don't know if you guys already discussed this...but the whole fish/birds ending up dead thing happened before. I wouldn't say it's normal, but people did talk about how this happened...I don't really know the details. Who knows. This might not be true.

What do you guys think of the huge earthquake in Japan?

My first thought when I saw the footage of the tsunami water(I guess that's what it was anyway), was 'and this is BEFORE the tribulation. What will it be like during?'

I think it'd be a pretty safe guess to say it's a sign, but we have to be careful that we're not just trying to...sort of fit things in. There have always been earthquakes. But one of such magnitude...? Idk, maybe. Probably.
The person on the news said Japan will never be the same again. So who knows.

I try and make judgements (as humans tend to do) about the events of the world, what they mean, why they are happening. I guess we still have to say 'Only God knows. It is part of His plan'.

I really, really don't believe in the whole 'wrath of God' weather thing. I believe God grieves deeply when natural tragedies happen. I believe that He 'makes it to rain on the just and unjust alike', and that sometimes this can seem really unfair.