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message 1: by Gretchen (new)

Gretchen (cleocatra) | 1 comments So do we all think that Jamie is coming to the future?


message 2: by Clover (new)

Clover (Clover36) | 1 comments I cannot wait to read the next book. I feel like I've been waiting forever! I cannot picture Jamie in the future but it would make a terrific story!


message 3: by Woogie (new)

Woogie | 9 comments He can't go into the future, though. I'm interested to see how modern day Lallybroch plays out!


message 4: by Mary (new)

Mary (lolababalola) | 1 comments That would be too much "Crocodile Dundee". I wouldn't mind another setting-possibly returning to Scotland


message 5: by Ms. Vicki (new)

Ms. Vicki Smith | 14 comments Diana Gabaldon is my favorite author and I can't wait for her to come out with the next book. It's been so...long, I'm having withdrawals. :)
I can't picture Jamie in the future either, but we'll see. I'm really glad to find your group.


Bethany (chunkymonkey8) (chunkymonkey8) | 1 comments I think DG has made it pretty clear that Jamie won't go to the future. It would be an interesting storyline, though!


message 7: by Kathy (new)

Kathy | 14 comments Jamie won't go to the future. However, I am curious to see if Bree, Roger, and the family will go back eventually since ALL of them can travel... Now that they know they need some gems to do it!

I'm with Woogie in wondering how modern day Lallybroch will progress in the books. Don't get me wrong--I ADORE Jamie and Claire, but I really like Bree the best.


message 8: by Woogie (new)

Woogie | 9 comments I hope they go back at some point, too, Kathy. I sooo curious as to what else is in that box!


message 9: by Meagan (new)

Meagan | 1 comments I want to read more about the connection Jamie has to the others through his dreams (as the ghost in Outlander and seeing Bree, Roger and kids in Inverness). I would rather that then Jamie time traveling. Love this group!


message 10: by Heather (new)

Heather | 2 comments Has anyone found another author/book that is similar to Gabaldon's Outlander? Historical fiction/romance...not necessarily time travel? I need something to fill the time until the next book arrives.


message 11: by AWomanReading (last edited Jan 24, 2009 05:24AM) (new)

AWomanReading Heather wrote: "Has anyone found another author/book that is similar to Gabaldon's Outlander? Historical fiction/romance...not necessarily time travel? I need something to fill the time until the next book arrives."

Barbara Erskine has really good books. Her stories deal with current times, historical and usually ghosts or reincarnation or possessions from the past. I love Gabaldon but Erskine is awesome too but in an entirely different way. I find her books to be addictive.



message 12: by Rachael (new)

Rachael | 2 comments Have you read "The Red Tent" by Anita Diamant?


message 13: by Heidi (new)

Heidi (heidihetzel-evans) I just finished The Red Tent a few nights ago... wonderful book... a totally different kind of historical fiction. If you know the bible story of Jacob, Joseph and company, this will surprise you because its the same story told from the women's point of view... and a much easier read than Outlander (much less detail).


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Regina | 7 comments Heather wrote: "Has anyone found another author/book that is similar to Gabaldon's Outlander? Historical fiction/romance...not necessarily time travel? I need something to fill the time until the next book arrives."

Sara Donati has written a series of books that are historical fiction. They include a cameo of Clare in the first book, "Into the Wilderness." Gabaldon gives the books her endorsement. I really liked them.



message 15: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (michelle_blum) | 12 comments It's not quite the same style, but I really enjoy the Study Series by Maria V. Snyder. The series begins with Poison Study, Magic Study, then Fire Study. Check out the new post on this discussion here. http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/9...


message 16: by Wendy (last edited Feb 19, 2009 09:06PM) (new)

Wendy | 259 comments Is anyone curious about Jaimies son that Lord John has raised? I'm curious about him and what will happen if he fights against Jaimie and Young Ian in the war.

I certainly hope we see more of Bree and Roger, but I want to see Young Ian have more story time.

A book sugestion is Pamela Clare's McKinnon's Rangers series or the Blakely/Kenleigh series. Ride the Fire is my favorite.


message 17: by Keesha (new)

Keesha Dominguez | 3 comments Sara Donati has written a series of books that are historical fiction. They include a cameo of Clare in the first book, "Into the Wilderness." Gabaldon gives the books her endorsement. I really liked them.i>

I agree, I LOVE the Into the Wilderness series. So good!!! If you want historical romance this is a great series!

I didn't know Claire made a Cameo. Who was she?




message 18: by Regina (new)

Regina | 7 comments Kdominguez wrote: "Sara Donati has written a series of books that are historical fiction. They include a cameo of Clare in the first book, "Into the Wilderness." Gabaldon gives the books her endorsement. I really lik..."

I believe it is in the first one, "Into the Wilderness," where she is mentioned and described as "a witch" in a conversation around a table. Remember how she is described as a "witch" in the first Outlander books because of her healing ability? Well, she is the subject of rumor and speculation in this conversation. I can't remember all the details without looking it up, but I promise you it's there!




message 19: by Keesha (new)

Keesha Dominguez | 3 comments I believe it is in the first one, "Into the Wilderness," where she is mentioned and described as "a witch" in a conversation around a table. Remember how she is described as a "witch" in the first Outlander books because of her healing ability? Well, she is the subject of rumor and speculation in this conversation. I can't remember all the details without looking it up, but I promise you it's there!
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What a coincidence. I would have never remembered that. But I haven't done a reread of the Into the Wilderness series yet. Need to though, its one of my favs. That and The Tea Rose series by Jennifer Donnelly. That is really good also.




message 20: by Shannon (new)

Shannon | 4 comments Claire is mentioned in Into the Wilderness on page 320. . . . "and raised his glass. To Nathaniel who brought young John through the lines, he said. And to the White Witch - Claire Fraiser who brought him through his fever." There are a few other paragraphs that mention them on the same page but that is the gist.


message 21: by Regina (new)

Regina | 7 comments Shannon wrote: "Claire is mentioned in Into the Wilderness on page 320. . . . "and raised his glass. To Nathaniel who brought young John through the lines, he said. And to the White Witch - Claire Fraiser who bro..."


Thanks Shannon!!!



message 22: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 259 comments I am currently reading The Fiery Cross and I'm at the part where Roger is getting over his hanging. I love roger's character. I have wanted all along for him to show Jamie that he is just as strong and talented as himself. I know that DG probably has a plan for Roger, but I feel that this is a part in the series where I'm disapointed. Roger is much stronger than this. He has traveled through the stones, lived through a horrible voyage across the ocean, lived through being sold as a slave to the Indians and survived a terrible infection. He has accepted Jemmy as his son, when there isn't absolute proof. I'm just not sure that he would have acted so rashley at the Regulator Rebellion and kissed Morag. Maybe it shows how sensitive he is, but he isn't stupid. He wouldn't have taken a chance like that.

What do you all think?


message 23: by Leslie (new)

Leslie (les2car) | 131 comments Wendy wrote: "I am currently reading The Fiery Cross and I'm at the part where Ro..."

I agree with you. It thought it was a little out of character for him to do that. I don't think he would be that careless.


message 24: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 259 comments I have a few of the quotes from the series on my favorite quotes but I find more of them all of the time.

pg.1084 The Fiery Cross
"You are beautiful," he whispered to me
"If you say so."
"Do ye not believe me? Have I ever lied to you?"
"That's not what I mean. I mean--- if you say it, then it's true."
"Do you not say it of me, Sassenach?"
"Do I say what, that your beautiful?"
"Well...not that. But that you can bear my looks, at least."
"You are beautiful to me Jamie, so beautiful you break my heart."


message 25: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Hanna-Tarantino (ctara) | 309 comments Wendy,
When I read FC and got to the part you mentioned, I too was a bit disappointed; at how Reger is always perceived as weak ( maybe it's just my perception) even though he has gone through hell and back, he is in fact a 20th cent. man and would react to situations differently just by instinct...even though he probably should have "caught on" by now that this world he is now is a whole different animal! I think he is a sensitive soul...in a different way that Jamie is sensitive. Jamie's tough side overpowers to me, all the good poor Roger does.
And Jamie has lied to Claire..half the truth is still a whole lie my mother used to say to me.


message 26: by Shannon (new)

Shannon | 4 comments I just checked Diana's home page and saw that the release date for An Echo in the Bone is tenatively set for Sept 2009. I can't wait!!! I'm thinking about re-reading the last book before then to refresh my memory.


message 27: by Wendy (last edited Mar 27, 2009 03:51PM) (new)

Wendy | 259 comments Remind me of when he lied to Claire, Cynthia. Are you talking about being married to Laogaire? Of coarse that came out now didn't it. And he really paid for that one, and still is out of his pocket book.


message 28: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Hanna-Tarantino (ctara) | 309 comments Wendy wrote: "Remind me of when he lied to Claire, Cynthia. Are you talking about being married to Laogaire? Of coarse that came out now didn't it. And he really paid for that one, and still is out of his pocket..."

yes about Loagaire... and not being up front about willie either... I can't remember..Did he tell Claire about the women at the cave who gave him the"send off"?


message 29: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Hanna-Tarantino (ctara) | 309 comments Wendy wrote: "I have a few of the quotes from the series on my favorite quotes but I find more of them all of the time.

pg.1084 The Fiery Cross
"You are beautiful," he whispered to me
"If you say so."
"Do ..."


I absolutly love that! How sweet...........


message 30: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 259 comments I just finished The Fiery Cross and so far in all of the books (I'm re-reading them for the third time) Jamie hasn't mentioned the send off in the cave. Of coarse he did live in a cave for seven years, he deserved a little somthin somthin, even if he doesn't tell Claire.


message 31: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Hanna-Tarantino (ctara) | 309 comments Wendy wrote: "I just finished The Fiery Cross and so far in all of the books (I'm re-reading them for the third time) Jamie hasn't mentioned the send off in the cave. Of coarse he did live in a cave for seven ye..."

I agree!! Ha Ha I could not have put it better!!! she brought him some supper and then somthin sweet!!


message 32: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Hanna-Tarantino (ctara) | 309 comments Cynthia wrote: "Wendy wrote: "I just finished The Fiery Cross and so far in all of the books (I'm re-reading them for the third time) Jamie hasn't mentioned the send off in the cave. Of coarse he did live in a cav..."

I like the "Arse over Teakettle" in book 6. I have never heard that before!


message 33: by Renee (new)

Renee (nightbird) | 334 comments DG has told me at her blog that we will find out how Jamie, in ABOSAA, knows that Amanda is a 'fiesty, wee baggage'. Yay! Either Jemmy can see Grandda while Jamie is dreaming into the future, or they go back. I think it would be a hoot if Jem decided to take Amanda back for a visit. Bree and Roger would go nuts!

And I can't wait to find out who L is messing about with.


message 34: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Hanna-Tarantino (ctara) | 309 comments I hope it's not Ian Sr.!


message 35: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 259 comments I don't think it is. Jenny would have known where Ian Sr. was when she went to see the baby.


message 36: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Hanna-Tarantino (ctara) | 309 comments that's true ..I have got to go back and reread. okay..what about little, now grown up Jamie???


message 37: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Hanna-Tarantino (ctara) | 309 comments hmm hmm I bet that's who it is...


message 38: by Renee (new)

Renee (nightbird) | 334 comments I was talking about that with my friend. It's being elder Ian. Marsali does say in Voyager that L liked 'him' well enough. I wondered why she'd said that other than to stand up for Fergus and his having no hand.

My friend thinks that it was a woman L was with. Well, she didn't take too kindly to men.

I'd hate for it to be young Jamie. And I think maybe his mother would as well.


Either way, it's someone that Jenny could not tell Jamie about in a letter. Hmmmm.



message 39: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 259 comments Your theory's are interesting. I hadn't thought about it being someone from the family. I hope it isn't. Young Jamie would just be awful, she is so much older than he is, yuck. I always thought that it was just another man not connected with the family.


message 40: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Hanna-Tarantino (ctara) | 309 comments I hope it isn't either..I was just thinking that it would be someone we would NEVER expect..and the fact that Jenny did not or would not mention the name in the letter made me suspicious!! I'm just letting my imagination run wild...I never thought that it could be another woman...that aslo could be an interseting twist..it just seems she had been soooooo enthralled with Jamie ever since she was a young girl, jumping the tracks seems strange..but you never know. Has Diana ever done a live webcast with her fans to discuss her books? kind of like Oprah did with the Eckhart Tolle guy? that would be so fun to go book by book


message 41: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 259 comments I'm not sure Diana has done a live web cast or not, but I think she has.


message 42: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Hanna-Tarantino (ctara) | 309 comments Wendy wrote: "I'm not sure Diana has done a live web cast or not, but I think she has. "

so what do you think about L with a woman theory that Renee suggested?


message 43: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 259 comments I'm not buying it. I think that L had a problem with Jamie being in love with Claire. He would never stop loveing her and L knew that. She hated Claire. I think it is definately some other man from around town, but it will be interesting to get these questions answered. I hope they get answered.


message 44: by Renee (new)

Renee (nightbird) | 334 comments It was my friend Kristy who had the idea it might be a woman. She's here somewhere. I got her to join the group as well.

I'm thinking that L had someone before she wed Jamie and that she married Jamie because she needed his support. I think she was well over Jamie by the time they wed and she did it just to use him and maybe get a little revenge as well.

Sneaky of DG not to let us know who. :) A little cliff hanger there.


message 45: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Hanna-Tarantino (ctara) | 309 comments yes! it's so much fun though to speculate and try to guess!! None of my friends will read the series soooo thanks for indulging me in these conversations! I really look forward to the responses!!


message 46: by Renee (new)

Renee (nightbird) | 334 comments LOVE talking about the series. I've read it about 7 times and I'm working on 8. I have to have my Jamie and Claire fix before going to sleep.

I didn't wait to convince my friend or my cousin to read the books, I just sent them Outlander. They're both hooked now. :)

Kristy and I do a lot of speculating. It's fun.


message 47: by Leslie (new)

Leslie (les2car) | 131 comments What about Dougal's child from the first book? He isn't that much younger than L and we haven't heard much about him as an adult. Unless I missed something. It has been a long time since I read the first two books.


message 48: by Renee (new)

Renee (nightbird) | 334 comments Hamish? He ends up in Canada at the time. The boy with Gellis is adopted out. So, it can't be either of those.

I once jokingly thought 'Ned Gowan'? Hahaha.


message 49: by Cynthia (new)

Cynthia Hanna-Tarantino (ctara) | 309 comments OMG laughing out loud!!! He could be...!!! that is hilarious!


message 50: by Leslie (new)

Leslie (les2car) | 131 comments Renee wrote: "Hamish? He ends up in Canada at the time. The boy with Gellis is adopted out. So, it can't be either of those.

I once jokingly thought 'Ned Gowan'? Hahaha."


I must have missed Hamish being in Canada. It really could be Ned Gowan. He was her attorney for the divorce. I really do hope that it is not someone in the family.


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