We'll Always Have Summer discussion

Would you or would you not? My choice would be to add to the ending. What is yours?

Hii. Where can I find this book online?

Nancy wrote: "Would you or would you not? My choice would be to add to the ending. What is yours?"

What would you want to add? I thought it ended in a very picture perfect kind of way :)

I cannot remember any book whose ending made me so angry.

Haha why?

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Because it rang so true. During my life I was the nice guy who the girl relied on time and time again when things were bad who got ultimately dumped so she could go off with the jerk who treated her like crap more than once.

For some reason a very large segment of the female population seems attracted to the archetypal "Bad Boy." they often spend much of their life in misery, relying on a close male friend who would never do a thing to hurt them when they get ignored, forgotten cheated upon and abused, but never consider being with that friend, going back again and again to their "bad boy." It makes me angry still.

Conrad was a class A jackass, it was too real that he ended up with the girl.

SPOILERS: I didn't like that he used to be a jerk either, but Jenny Hann's writing style is so incredibly ingenious, that depending on what book you read, you would favor one boy over the other. The first book it was all about Conrad, the second, I loved Jeremiah, and then the third again, it was Conrad. Hann's writing makes you surprisingly favor one boy over the other; it makes you change your mind because the people grow and change. Jeremiah acted like a jerk too closer to the end, but Conrad had moved passed that jerk phase. :)

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I'll agree Ms. Han's writing style is terrific. Loved all three of the books even though they made me angry. Nothing is worse than a book that makes you feel NOTHING.

Jeremiah made one mistake, when they weren't together, dumb, but nothing to compare to the years of psychological abuse and indifference Conrad heaped upon her.

Yeah, I guess you have a point there, but the reason I loved the ending is because Conrad had a chance to grow and learn from past mistakes and that helped him discover who he is and what he wants. But I totally understand your perspective! Unfortunately, sometimes girls stay with jerks just because of their charm, and that is actually very realistic. I'm sure you just don't like the fact that, to some people, it feels like Hann is encouraging that.

But I feel like in the end, it's a book people pick up for light reading in summer! It's supposed to be fun and cute and have a charming jerk as a main character haha.

Yes, I can totally see your point as well. Do not mistake me, I loved the book. I am a big fan of Ms. Han. It is just this book touched me in a painful scar from back in the past. Brought back a lot of anger from my youth. As I alluded to earlier, this shows great writing to me. It made me feel, and feel strongly. If I were to write a book the most insulting thing I could think would be if it made nobody feel anything.

I've read all 4 of Mrs. Han's work and rated them all 4 or 5 stars. She really makes you feel powerful emotions, to feel what the characters feel. To be transported till you feel like a part of the story.

Now I am hardly the target market for YA books (52 year old male) but the fact it can make me feel, and make younger people feel. as well shows greatness to me.

That is exactly how I feel about her books too, awesome! Haha well thanks for sharing your opinion, it's been fun discussing! :)

I've very much enjoyed our discussion as well. I love Goodreads. discussing good books with intelligent people you'd never meet otherwise.

Kayla wrote: "Hii. Where can I find this book online?" Well, i found the book online I think at 4shared,or ebubpub.

Ooh good idea! Jenny Han could write a spin off series featuring the same characters plus a new generation, I would definitely read that. Kind of like what Richelle Mead did when she wrote the bloodlines series!

Reema (Reading Rhino Press) wrote: "Ooh good idea! Jenny Han could write a spin off series featuring the same characters plus a new generation, I would definitely read that. Kind of like what Richelle Mead did when she wrote the bloo..."

That sounds like a real good read if Han did that. I can totally imagine Belly and Conrad having a girl and naming her Beck or Susannah. That was how I WISHED Han ended Book 3; with Belly in the hospital, months/years after she gets back together with Conrad, given birth to a baby girl and them naming her Susannah. But, a spin off with the next generation sounds awesome. Too bad Jenny Han said she's done writing about them. :(I still say she TOTALLY cheated us out of seeing some real back-together romance with Conrad and Belly! I mean, a 4 year time skip with a wedding wrapping up is NOT what us fans wanted in seeing Belly and Conrad back together. I mean, not even a REAL kiss? Come on!

Add to it was like you know going so well then last chapter just skips to wedding I was like WHAT I yelled that and my dad came in my room to see if something was wrong I told him the book he rolled his eyes and walked away

In some ways I loved the ending of the book. How they started their marriage by jumping into the water, but I wish I had seen Conrad's letter from Susannah. And the first letter he wrote to Belly. I think she ended up with the right person because it's true - when you love someone, you just can't help it. That love is there to say. And yeah Conrad basically broke her heart but he thought he was doing her a favor. To say I cried over this book would be an understatement. I balled my eyes out. And yeah I was hoping there would be a little girl named after her wonderful grandmothers. :)

I like the way the ending is. It's good Belle wasn't rushed into marrying someone she had second thoughts about. I always knew that they would end up together! Conrad REALLY cares for Belle! It's sooo nice how he gave her that infinity necklace! And April, LOVE your comment! Soo TRUE!

The book was perfect the way it was!

This book ending was semi-satisfying. It honestly left me a little confused, with a lot of seemingly contradictory points being made by the author. She seemed sometimes to be saying that Belly could never escape her feelings for Conrad. I don't know if I agree with that. In belly's last scene with Jeremiah she says she chooses him. I'd like to think we can do that.

She also seemed, though, at one point to be saying that belly could leave her love for Conrad behind. Belly says or implies that she will never love Conrad blindly and unconditionally again, never be pushed and pulled by him again.

In the end belly walked away in a literal sense from both boys to find herself. She did allow herself to love Conrad again , but I think the author implied that it was a different kind of love then she had for him to begin with. Maybe that's what reconciles the two ideas that belly both could and couldn't leave behind her love for Conrad.

add the ending, probably like how Conrad and Belly meet again, how they fall in love all over again, and how conrad purposes her.

I would love to have more info about how they all became friends again and read Con's letters.

I LOVED the book don't get me wrong it was amazing, however, I feel like to story took some unneed turns, like when Belly finds out Jeremiah slept with that one chick that only went on for like what 3 pgs. and plus we all knew that Belly was gonna end up with Conrad so no suprises, I was hoping hopeing something exciting would happen like maybe something would happen where they COULDN'T be together, like maybe, Belly got pregnant or Conrad done something like got engaged to that one girl he dated for a while (the one at his mom's funeral, something like that

I think it would have been a better ending if Jeremiah had realized that
1) His affair in Cabo meant he wasn't truly committed to Belly
2) The wedding proposal was intended to force a commitment on her part that wasn't given to him freely
3) He'd never have her whole heart
4) He needed to stop relying on Daddy's money and grow up
5) Belly was in no way mature enough for marriage
6) He needed to bow out gracefully

I would have liked to see Belly transfer schools out to CA or graduate and do grad school in CA and start up a relationship with Conrad slowly. I would have liked to see a first date, first kiss, etc. before an epilogue with the wedding.