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“It boils down to this: you aren’t allowed to tell them what their problem is, and in return, they aren’t allowed to tell you what to build. They own the problem, you own the solution.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“Trying to learn from customer conversations is like excavating a delicate archaeological site. The truth is down there somewhere, but it’s fragile. While each blow with your shovel gets you closer to the truth, you’re liable to smash it into a million little pieces if you use too blunt an instrument.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“Rule of thumb: You should be terrified of at least one of the questions you’re asking in every conversation.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“The world’s most deadly fluff is: “I would definitely buy that.” It just sounds so concrete. As a founder, you desperately want to believe it’s money in the bank. But folks are wildly optimistic about what they would do in the future. They’re always more positive, excited, and willing to pay in the imagined future than they are once it arrives.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“We go through the futile process of asking for opinions and fish for compliments because we crave approval. We want to believe that the support and sign-off of someone we respect means our venture will succeed. But really, that person’s opinion doesn’t matter. They have no idea if the business is going to work. Only the market knows. You’re searching for the truth, not trying to be right. And you want to do it as quickly and cheaply as possible. Learning that your beliefs are wrong is frustrating, but it’s progress. It’s bringing you ever closer to the truth of a real problem and a good market. The worst thing you can do is ignore the bad news while searching for some tiny grain of validation to celebrate. You want the truth, not a gold star.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“The only thing people love talking about more than themselves is their problems. By taking an interest in the problems and minutia of their day, you’re already more interesting than 99% of the people they’ve ever met.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“Do you think it's a good idea?" Awful question! Here’s the thing: only the market can tell if your idea is good. Everything else is just opinion. Unless you’re talking to a deep industry expert, this is self-indulgent noise with a high risk of false positives.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“While using generics, people describe themselves as who they want to be, not who they actually are. You need to get specific to bring out the edge cases.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“Long story short, that person is a complainer, not a customer.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“Some problems don’t actually matter.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“best” means learning, not selling.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“Zooming in too quickly on a super-specific problem before you understand the rest of the customers life can irreparably confuse your learnings.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“Talk about their life instead of your idea Ask about specifics in the past instead of generics or opinions about the future Talk less and listen more It’s called The Mom Test because it leads to questions that even your mom can’t lie to you about.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“Changing the context of the meeting to “looking for advisors” is the equivalent of throwing out all your chocolate when you start a diet. You change the environment to naturally facilitate your goals.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“Here are 3 simple rules to help you. They are collectively called (drumroll) The Mom Test: The Mom Test: Talk about their life instead of your idea Ask about specifics in the past instead of generics or opinions about the future Talk less and listen more”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“The only thing people love talking about more than themselves is their problems.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“In short, remember that compliments are worthless and people’s approval doesn’t make your business better.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“Mistakes and symptoms: Fishing for compliments. “I’m thinking of starting a business... so, do you think it will work?” “I had an awesome idea for an app — do you like it?” Exposing your ego (aka The Pathos Problem). “So here’s that top-secret project I quit my job for... what do you think?” “I can take it — be honest and tell me what you really think!” Being pitchy. “No no, I don’t think you get it...” “Yes, but it also does this!” Being too formal. “So, first off, thanks for agreeing to this interview. I just have a few questions for you and then I’ll let you get back to your day…” “On a scale of 1 to 5, how much would you say you…” “Let’s set up a meeting.” Being a learning bottleneck. “You just worry about the product. I’ll handle the customers.” “Because the customers told me so!” “I don’t have time to talk to people — I need to get back to coding!” Collecting compliments instead of facts and commitments. “We’re getting a lot of positive feedback.” “Everybody I’ve talked to loves the idea.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“Results of a good meeting: Facts — concrete, specific facts about what they do and why they do it (as opposed to the bad data of compliments, fluff, and opinions) Commitment — They are showing they’re serious by giving up something they value such as meaningful amounts of time, reputation risk, or money Advancement — They are moving to the next step of your real-world funnel and getting closer to a sale Signs you’re just going through the motions: You’re talking more than they are They are complimenting you or your idea You told them about your idea and don’t have next steps You don’t have notes You haven’t looked through your notes with your team You got an unexpected answer and it didn’t change your idea You weren’t scared of any of the questions you asked You aren’t sure which big question you’re trying to answer You aren’t sure why you’re having the meeting Writing it down — signal symbols: :)Excited :( Angry :|Embarrassed ☇ Pain or problem (symbol is a lightning bolt) ⨅ Goal or job-to-be-done (symbol is a soccer/football goal) ☐ Obstacle ⤴Workaround ^Background or context (symbol is a distant mountain) ☑ Feature request or purchasing criteria $Money or budgets or purchasing process ♀ Mentioned a specific person or company ☆ Follow-up task Signs you aren’t pushing for commitment and advancement: A pipeline of zombie leads Ending product meetings with a compliment Ending product meetings with no clear next steps Meetings which “went well” They haven’t given up anything of value Asking for and framing the meeting: Vision — half-sentence of how you’re making the world better Framing — where you’re at and what you’re looking for Weakness — where you’re stuck and how you can be helped Pedestal — show that they, in particular, can provide that help Ask — ask for help The big prep question: “What do we want to learn from these guys?”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“3 separate meetings: the first about the customer and their problem; the second about your solution; and the third to sell a product.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“Getting back on track (avoiding bad data): Deflect compliments Anchor fluff Dig beneath opinions, ideas, requests, and emotions”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“If you just avoid mentioning your idea, you automatically start asking better questions. Doing this is the easiest (and biggest) improvement you can make to your customer conversations.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“The goal of this process is twofold. First, to ensure you’re spending your time well by attacking the questions which really matter and making use of the brains of the whole founding team. Second, to spread any new learning through your team as quickly and completely as possible.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“Key skills: Asking good questions (Chapters 1 & 3) Avoiding bad data (Chapter 2) Keeping it casual (Chapter 4) Pushing for commitment & advancement (Chapter 5) Framing the meeting (Chapter 6) Customer segmentation (Chapter 7) Prepping & reviewing (Chapter 8) Taking notes (Chapter 8)”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“One of the reasons we avoid important questions is because asking them is scary. It can bring us to the unsettling realisation that our beloved idea is fundamentally flawed. Or that the major client is never going to buy. Although this sort of news seems unfortunate, we need to learn to love it.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“Here’s the thing: only the market can tell if your idea is good. Everything else is just opinion.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“search out the world-rocking scary questions you’ve been unintentionally shrinking from. The best way to find them is with thought experiments. Imagine that the company has failed and ask why that happened. Then imagine it as a huge success and ask what had to be true to get there. Find ways to learn about those critical pieces. You can tell it’s an important question when its answer could completely change (or disprove) your business.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“Every time you talk to someone, you should be asking at least one question which has the potential to destroy your currently imagined business.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
“With the exception of industry experts who have built very similar businesses, opinions are worthless. You want facts and commitments, not compliments.”
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you
― The Mom Test: How to talk to customers & learn if your business is a good idea when everyone is lying to you