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Bravo, Brett. Good post.
Very good post, but I think he was sexist. Most people of his time thought men and women should stay inside the 'obvious' roles biology had evolved for them. He couldn't handle how people, but especially women, kept escaping their designated roles. He absolutely nailed emotional motivation and male feelings, though.
I think he had great admiration for the female role, but also would become bored by women who were wrapped up tight within their motherhood identity over time. I don't think he thought motherly women were bad to be boring, I think he wanted his cake and wanted it to be tasty, but when he didn't, he thought the problem was in him, not in that women were wrong. He couldn't except too much character complexity or changeability. He wanted life to be full of precision and dependability, but when he found it, he was bored to death by it. I think the inability to accept what he considered his 'fault' or weaknesses consumed him.
I was the same as Monica. At first, I was unsure about the Old Man and the Sea. After your explanation though, I may have to reread it and see it from a different angle. Thanks :)
Years after reading him, I went back to reread some things he wrote. If I ever thought he was a good writer, I was sadly mistaken. I think he is a garbage writer. He is no Balzac, that is for sure.
His prose is useless when not put to good use. He lacks the ability to write good characters or plot even in his magnum opus and since that is what stories are judged by he is essentially someone with a lot of wasted potential.
He was a reflection of his time. A hundred years later, he is irrelevant.
Irrelevant is a little harsh.
Dated, perhaps?
"The Old Man and the Sea" is still poignant, and brilliant.
Very well put. Technically, Hemingway is the master of American English. He speaks with honesty, so his writing is of value even if we disagree with the honest Papa. He is one of the greats and I personally can never get enough even if I haven't read Death in the Afternoon I hate bullfighting so much.
He was also a secret poet. His work is steeped in emotion and his female half.
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Dec 05, 2013 10:30PM
Bravo, Brett. Good post.
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Very good post, but I think he was sexist. Most people of his time thought men and women should stay inside the 'obvious' roles biology had evolved for them. He couldn't handle how people, but especially women, kept escaping their designated roles. He absolutely nailed emotional motivation and male feelings, though.
I think he had great admiration for the female role, but also would become bored by women who were wrapped up tight within their motherhood identity over time. I don't think he thought motherly women were bad to be boring, I think he wanted his cake and wanted it to be tasty, but when he didn't, he thought the problem was in him, not in that women were wrong. He couldn't except too much character complexity or changeability. He wanted life to be full of precision and dependability, but when he found it, he was bored to death by it. I think the inability to accept what he considered his 'fault' or weaknesses consumed him.
I was the same as Monica. At first, I was unsure about the Old Man and the Sea. After your explanation though, I may have to reread it and see it from a different angle. Thanks :)
Years after reading him, I went back to reread some things he wrote. If I ever thought he was a good writer, I was sadly mistaken. I think he is a garbage writer. He is no Balzac, that is for sure.
His prose is useless when not put to good use. He lacks the ability to write good characters or plot even in his magnum opus and since that is what stories are judged by he is essentially someone with a lot of wasted potential.
He was a reflection of his time. A hundred years later, he is irrelevant.
Irrelevant is a little harsh.Dated, perhaps?
"The Old Man and the Sea" is still poignant, and brilliant.
Very well put. Technically, Hemingway is the master of American English. He speaks with honesty, so his writing is of value even if we disagree with the honest Papa. He is one of the greats and I personally can never get enough even if I haven't read Death in the Afternoon I hate bullfighting so much.
He was also a secret poet. His work is steeped in emotion and his female half.
