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Wow. Never thought of that about Aral. Just Wow.
Whoa! I'm confused! Xav's DAUGHTERS SURVIVED??? So what does that make Olivia (Aral's mother)???
Exactly! The reply says, “ Mad Yuri had Xav's only son murdered (his daughters survived. “ Hence, my question...
From what I recall, Xav's other daughter (Ivan's grandmother) survived, so maybe it's a typo? Or maybe Xav's only son was killed at an earlier time and his daughters survived that incident, only for Olivia to be killed later?
From a thread entry on the LMB mailing list from Herselt (Sept. 1, 2012) : “ The part of the massacre at which Aral was present was at Padma Vorpatril's first birthday party. This was a family event, taking place in the afternoon, at the home of Princess Sonia and her Lord Vorpatril husband in Vorbarr Sultana... In addition to Lord Vorpatril and Princess Sonia, and little Padma, attendees included sister/aunt Olivia Vorbarra-Vorkosigan and all three of her children. Aral's brother was in his mid-teens (and doubtless bored with the kiddie stuff), Aral as we know was 11, and his sister was younger, maybe 6 - 8. It is not stated if young Padma had any siblings at this point, perhaps an older sister or two; if so, they did not survive. But it isn't a prolific family, so probably not. Xav's son may or may not have been present; if not, he was killed elsewhere that
day. It is unknown if he had a wife and children yet -- it depends if he was younger or older than his sisters.
Survivors at the Vorpatril home included, besides Aral and Padma, Padma's mother Sonia, the only one of Xav's children to survive the day, though I expect she was seriously injured... in whatever case she was deceased before Cordelia came to Barrayar. I do not think her husband survived long, because there are no more siblings for Padma, although Lord Vorpatril might have survived the day, only to be killed sometime during the civil
war immediately following.“
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Whoa! I'm confused! Xav's DAUGHTERS SURVIVED??? So what does that make Olivia (Aral's mother)???
Exactly! The reply says, “ Mad Yuri had Xav's only son murdered (his daughters survived. “ Hence, my question...
From what I recall, Xav's other daughter (Ivan's grandmother) survived, so maybe it's a typo? Or maybe Xav's only son was killed at an earlier time and his daughters survived that incident, only for Olivia to be killed later?
From a thread entry on the LMB mailing list from Herselt (Sept. 1, 2012) : “ The part of the massacre at which Aral was present was at Padma Vorpatril's first birthday party. This was a family event, taking place in the afternoon, at the home of Princess Sonia and her Lord Vorpatril husband in Vorbarr Sultana... In addition to Lord Vorpatril and Princess Sonia, and little Padma, attendees included sister/aunt Olivia Vorbarra-Vorkosigan and all three of her children. Aral's brother was in his mid-teens (and doubtless bored with the kiddie stuff), Aral as we know was 11, and his sister was younger, maybe 6 - 8. It is not stated if young Padma had any siblings at this point, perhaps an older sister or two; if so, they did not survive. But it isn't a prolific family, so probably not. Xav's son may or may not have been present; if not, he was killed elsewhere thatday. It is unknown if he had a wife and children yet -- it depends if he was younger or older than his sisters.
Survivors at the Vorpatril home included, besides Aral and Padma, Padma's mother Sonia, the only one of Xav's children to survive the day, though I expect she was seriously injured... in whatever case she was deceased before Cordelia came to Barrayar. I do not think her husband survived long, because there are no more siblings for Padma, although Lord Vorpatril might have survived the day, only to be killed sometime during the civil
war immediately following.“
