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message 1: by Jean (new)

Jean I found it used in a book "Daily Life in 18th Century England" talking about something written by Defoe by searching "vails for servants".


message 2: by Shane (new)

Shane Castle Ok I'm satisfied; including Defoe as a reference has convinced me. Although, supposedly "tip" dates from the Restoration, so it really should be acceptable, but I agree that "vail" just sounds better.


message 3: by Michawl (new)

Michawl Dolbear The OED has vail as a noun with examples from 1450-1902 for a entry last updated in 1916

1904 Times 20 Aug. 12/6 English visitors measure their vails..with discretion..in America.


message 4: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Penfold also found at: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/vail...
definition 2, noun.


message 5: by Sheila (new)

Sheila Hufeld I heard it used when I was in Ireland in the mid 90s. And it was used to designate a tip.


message 6: by Jonathan (new)

Jonathan Palfrey The Oxford English Dictionary (2nd edition) shows the noun ‘vail’ as meaning an advantage, benefit, or profit; can mean a tip or a bribe. The word in these senses has been in use since the 15th century, but is now archaic or dialect.


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