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I recently read that about 90% of the neural pathways in our brain are designed to process information visually. It happens in a split second when we see something and it appears our brains are hardwired that way. Also, images and symbols (for lack of a better word) are said to speak directly to the oldest parts of the brain (the Midbrain, reptilian and the limbic system) and therefore the subconscious mind.

By contrast, this same article I read said that only about 30% of our brains are designed to process information via words and sounds.

Therefore...Do the global elite understand the power of symbology and are they using hidden symbols, and sophisticated geometry perhaps, to influence the masses and covertly sway public opinion to their liking?

If true, is this also the reason the Ancients paid so much attention to symbols and geometry in their architecture and everything else they built?

Or am I simply connecting too many dots and making too many assumptions?

That all makes perfect sense to me James, but I haven't got educated data to back my instincts.

Rumor has it Harry knows a thing or two about symbolism of the elite...
However, the Whitewolf's snout may be busy hunting for bigger things right now.
But I hope in time he'll eventually shed some light on the matter of symbolism.

Until he turns up, I'll post Harry's mugshot so you know who to look for:



If anyone sees this suspicious-looking individual, please tell him he's wanted by this group (and possibly the authorities as well).

Oi, Harry, throw us some scraps of underground knowledge when you get a moment!

Laureen wrote: "I think he's close. I can hear the howl in the distance! He loves a challenge being a Warrior wolf. ..."

Careful what you wish for Laureen. You know the old saying, you don't want "the wolf at your door".

Other suspicious thing is in Harry's mugshot above I think he may have infused some hidden symbolism of his own into the image.
No wonder the global elite are after him!

You could be right James. I don't remember his pic being so ghostly! I hope he's alright and not trying to tell us something. He could do with a transfusion, I think. Oh well, I guess I'll hear tomorrow - off to bed for me.

I wouldn't trust a dodgy looking geezer like that.

I'm no Robert Langdon! And I'm sure plenty of members have more insight than me on symbolism- but I'll get around to posting something at some point. In the meantime, your introduction to the topic was spot on James. It's all about the pictures y'know.

"Nature is a language, can't you read?" -Morrissey.

Glad to see you well and hale Harry. Maybe a bit off topic but have you heard of Synesthesia? I was listening to a 32yr old female being interviewed on National radio yesterday who had only recently found out the way she thinks isn't the same as most others. She thinks in colors, i.e. Numbers are colors in her mind like blue could be 2. She said all the even numbers were cool colors an the uneven numbers were warm colors and the color representing a number for her never changed. Her color is blue and she said she has never thought of herself in any other terms but that she is blue.

Apparently this brain neurology is call Synesthesia.

Harry wrote: "I'm no Robert Langdon! And I'm sure plenty of members have more insight than me on symbolism- but I'll get around to posting something at some point. In the meantime, your introduction to the topic..."

Thanks Harry. Looking forward to what you can share on this topic down the line.

I keep thinking about how little symbols appear beneath certain political candidates...And I wonder if this sways voters...

Things like this cross my mind.

I seem to be in a 'colour mood' (as I posed a question in the Big Bang Theory about seeing in colour), so Laureen- yes, I know about Synesthesia and I find it to be an extremely fascinating topic.

James- not just subliminal symbols are used for things like election swaying, but, in my opinion, colour is as well.

I may have mentioned before my thing about if you look at the neutral election logo for the U.S '08 presidency, they used the wider O, rather than 0, for 'O8, which of course helped to fixed O...bama firmly into people's heads when thinking about the election.

PatEye wrote: "Synesthesia is a term invented by the non-productive, reptilian bosses, in a hope to lucratively medicate and obliterate those antagonistic of their goals; that's all. What we know is that to love ..."

Wow ! you have evolved form an entertainer to a genius overnight. What a progress PatEye. Now tell me where you copied this from lol

PatEye wrote: "Matt wrote: "PatEye wrote: "Synesthesia is a term invented by the non-productive, reptilian bosses, in a hope to lucratively medicate and obliterate those antagonistic of their goals; that's all. W..."

I knew it ! lol

Harry wrote: "I seem to be in a 'colour mood' (as I posed a question in the Big Bang Theory about seeing in colour), so Laureen- yes, I know about Synesthesia and I find it to be an extremely fascinating topic.
..."

Besides colour/color tho, I'd still like to hear more from Harry or anyone else about what you know or tend to believe about the subject of hidden symbolism.
Thanks!

James Morcan wrote: "Harry wrote: "I seem to be in a 'colour mood' (as I posed a question in the Big Bang Theory about seeing in colour), so Laureen- yes, I know about Synesthesia and I find it to be an extremely fasci..."

Well now James, symbolism's a big topic. I know more about subliminal symbols and am fast reaching my own conclusions on certain meanings.

What sort of symbolism captures your eye the most mate?

Subliminal symbols is what I meant...But maybe I didn't summarise it properly.

And symbols that speak to our subconscious minds and reptilian brains.

Stellar Theology and Masonic Astronomy

the importance of symbolism? Have you ever tried to retrieve something from memory without using pictures/images? when ppl say they just had Deja vu, it isn't the words alone they are recognizing, but the image going along with it. images and emotions have been with us longer than words. what good are words if we don't have an image in our head to go with it?
when you lose your keys, it is usually the retractable visualization that helps you find them, not just the words. Have you ever given directions without vidualization and using landmarks? Think about sports or brands...If it wasn't for logos, I wouldn't remember very many at all, but seeing their logo sparks a memory even though I have no idea where the association to the logo and the name was formed.
My personal thought on the matter is that when using logos for power, it has to also trigger an emotion to be effective.
...or I could just not be quite awake yet and using nonsense words. ..too bad I can't put a symbol in here.

The Tree of Life: Its Perennial Structure and Symbolism

have you read this book?

Lisa wrote: "have you read this book?"

No, but I'm planning to as no Undergrounders are providing any clues, let alone answers, about the symbolism of the elite...Not even the Whitewolf will reveal what he knows (which I sense is a lot!) bout this subject...must be too busy howling at the moon...

I'll have to beat you to it!

James Morcan wrote: "Lisa wrote: "have you read this book?"

No, but I'm planning to as no Undergrounders are providing any clues, let alone answers, about the symbolism of the elite...Not even the Whitewolf will revea..."

I don't know how to even start on such a large topic as 'elite symbolism', especially when so much of it is bollocks portrayed by dodgy YouTube videos.

Washington street plans that are pentagrams and owls... (It's pretty much taken for granted by scholars that Freemasons designed street plans in the US and have hidden their symbols in all manner of places... and yet many of those scholars won't say it's sinister.)

All seeing eyes. Ancient symbols. Rams. Symbols used by the elite are hidden everywhere... or maybe I'm just crazy...

Hidden symbolism in Washington:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/...

Harry wrote: "All seeing eyes. Ancient symbols. Rams. Symbols used by the elite are hidden everywhere... or maybe I'm just crazy... ..."

No, you're not crazy, mate.
You're the only sane one (says the man manipulating the Underground Mental Asylum...)
Now take your medication!

But seriously, I am a neophyte on the subject symbolism but have been thinking or sensing lately that symbols may be our true language. A language that unites humanity, and maybe even the animal kingdom too. Our brains seem geared to process symbols much more than words.

I actually tend to agree very much James. In my own little subjective-head-world, I actually feel like I can 'read' many symbols these days, but find that hard to translate into words.

In my opinion, symbols are hidden everywhere. They are the Logos. Numbers, words and pictures become one.

Everything's jus a cymatic pattern vibrating, which is where the old symbols come from...

Hm, just thinking out loud here...!

Joseph Smith was a freemason and if you study the Mormon church symbolisms...especially their temples and the secret oaths, handshakes, etc....you'll see it is all pretty much adopted from freemasonry.

Wow, that's deep, man.
And it actually all rings true to me.
It seems all our ancestors, the world over, understood the power of symbolism.

Maybe it's language that limits our thinking. We think we are at the peak of human civilization, yet we are still debating with words about rudimentary ethical topics e.g. whether people should be allowed to kill themselves when ill or whether they should be allowed to fill their own bodies full of drugs...

Maybe debates like these wouldn't even occur if we communicated in symbols? maybe we'd all just know what is truly right?

Absolutely Lisa.

James, there should be a Freemason thread in this group. So much goes back to Freemasonry, but, again, being such a huge topic, I don't feel like I could sufficiently write about it succinctly. It's probably better for members to just read books like The Hiram Key

Lance already began a thread on Freemasonry. https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...?

Everything exists in the "underground", mate.
(Christ I really need to stop telling these corny underground jokes!!!!)

James Morcan wrote: "Lance already began a thread on Freemasonry. https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...?

Everything exists in the "underground", mate.
(Christ I really need to stop ..."

Ah, I missed that thread!

the underground has many dark corners, Harry ;)

The specific topic of symbolism hidden in logos probably deserves its own thread, but here are a few good examples for beginners to the idea:

http://twistedsifter.com/2011/08/20-c...

Lisa wrote: "the underground has many dark corners, Harry ;)"

Shhhhh Lisa.
Don't let out the secret of just how deep the dark web of the underground goes...

what good is a symbol if it doesn't have a personal meaning/message to its creator? I have just always assumed such is the nature of symbolism.

James, the secrets are so deep underground that even the secrets have secrets and the answer lies in the deepest, darkest corner. ...I'm still looking for that place!

Lisa wrote: "James, the secrets are so deep underground that even the secrets have secrets and the answer lies in the deepest, darkest corner. ...I'm still looking for that place!"

That place is reserved for 33rd degree Underground Knowledgers...

the paths I take, they are no reservations or degrees necessary ;)

Lisa wrote: "James, the secrets are so deep underground that even the secrets have secrets and the answer lies in the deepest, darkest corner. ...I'm still looking for that place!"

It's right here, Lisa, in the nut-factory...

alright, nut jobs...I'll be bringing your meds!

Lisa wrote: "alright, nut jobs...I'll be bringing your meds!"

Okay, another movie reference: One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
You are (the evil) Nurse Ratched and I will play Jack Nicholson's character. And just like Jack in this scene, I ain't taking ANY of your meds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGRD6...

another movie i never saw. ..

James, that clip was hilarious!

Okay coming back to this idea that the global elite know a secret language that speaks to the most ancient parts of our brains, I saw this video mentioned in the news the other day:

World Leaders Attend Bizarre Ritualistic Opening Ceremony of New Swiss Tunnel -- https://www.goodreads.com/videos/1043...

This inauguration of the Gotthard Tunnel in Switzerland appears to be loaded with occult-style symbolism. Pagan sacrificial rituals?

Some of the dark imagery in this ceremony reminds me of leaked photos from this Rothshild family party in the 1970s that Salvador Dali attended:

Weird symbolism from 1972 Rothschild ball --https://www.goodreads.com/videos/7220...

So what the hell is going on here, people?
What are we the common people dealing with with these elitists??

James Morcan wrote: "Okay coming back to this idea that the global elite know a secret language that speaks to the most ancient parts of our brains, I saw this video mentioned in the news the other day:

World Leaders ..."

It seems blatant to me that they're into some crazy-ass Babylonian Satanic shit. There are too many ceremonies like that one in Switzerland in the vid you posted. And why is it often Christian world leaders that like to attend theatrical productions about Satan?

And don't get me started on Bohemian Grove: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtSVB...

Why do you specify Babylonian, Harry?
Is that the root of these rituals?
Were Babylonians into Satanism?
Also, is Satanism a clear term considering the imagery in that Swiss tunnel opening ceremony is Pagan and pre-Christian?
Or is satan pre-Christian also?

I was just using the general conspiracy jargon, in that Freemasonry and other secret societies seem to have a secret religion that goes back to Babylonian times. See David Icke's stuff, for starters.

Satanism, without calling it that, and from a non-Christian perspective, I believe dates back to such early periods as well. It's thought that Saturn worship 'turned into' Satan worship, for instance.

Thanks for info Harry...I've not researched this stuff much...Hard to wrap my head around, but mms that Swiss tunnel ceremony certainly was dark and twisted!!!

James Morcan wrote: "I recently read that about 90% of the neural pathways in our brain are designed to process information visually. It happens in a split second when we see something and it appears our brains are har..."

James, I agree with your ideas on the power of symbols. The West has used one symbol, the Obelisk for over 5000 years. It has been a sign for God, grave markers, memorials, position/geographical markers ,etc. A city is not a great city unless it has its own ancient Egyptian obelisk. For Australians ,the tragedy of the Gallipoli campaign is marked and commemorated with the structure of an Obelisk. Why? Even the Vatican has its own piece of Egypt....

Hi Tony - I notice a few in downtown Sydney even. These obelisks are everywhere!

Are you implying obelisks are able to speak to us in symbolic language?
And also, did the Egyptians understand symbolism of the nature we are talking about?