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because when they went to the ministry of magic in book 5, they crashed all of the time turners. did u forget?
but i agree they could've used it to save lily n james.
but i agree they could've used it to save lily n james.
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i understand it. he wouldn't have met ron or hermione, there would be no death eaters, no action, no nothing! It would be no dursleys, no order of pheonix, no evil snape, no crazy serius, no final battle! gosh, the whole thing would be BORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think like a writer. i understand it!
Geeze, it timeturners were used all the time by people, nothing would EVER happen! ...but what if the deatheaters got hold of them?! then pleanty would happen *evil grin*
omg, that would have been awesome! made the whole this more interesting!
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But, didn't Hermione give McGonagall back the timeturner at the end of the third book?
ya... or she should have... if she didn't... i dont even want to think of what might happen...
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oohhh, ya... but they might figure it out, and ahhh chaos....
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Well, Time Turners ae ONLY available through the Ministry of Magic, and it says in the 3rd book that they barely ever let people have them, and only when it is strictly necessary. They monitor the use very carefully, because time is not something you should toy with. Hermione was a responible student who wanted to take extra classes to do well in her future career. That's not too serious of a thing to use a Time Turner for. Also, each turn takes you back an hour. You would have to EXACTLY calcuate how many turns you would need to go back and save someone, it would be VERY specific, and that would be a LOT of turns. And I seriously doubt the Ministry would let them use a Time Turner to tamper with fate and death.
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Hermione turned in her Time Turner at the end of the 3rd book, I'm pretty sure. I think. Probably.
If they had used to the time turners to rescue Sirius, then they would have seen themselves because they were there when Sirius died the second time ((that sounds strange)), and they would have gone insane.
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Oh right..
Um....I'm confused. I mean, right after you use a Time Turner and finish what you're supposed to do, how do you get back into "present time". Like, a few hours after all the events happened the "first" time, Harry and Hermione used the Time Turner and used the entire few hours to complete their task and then return back to the spot at the same time they used the Timer Turner the "second" time. But, like, say, if they went back to stop the murder of Harry's parents 13 years ago (I think), if they managed to succeed, wouldn't they have to wait 13 years to get back to the same time and place they last used the Time Turner?? (I'm talking about how in the movie as soon as Harry and Hermione came bursting in through the doors, their "old selves" seemed to like fade away?). But I totally get why JKR would not want to use the Time Turner again because 1) It would make the book boring because there would be no action, no story, and it would get tedious hearing about the Time Turner again and again, 2) It's kind of...wierd when authors meddle with the laws of death or w/e. Because seriously, have you ever read a book (not a movie) where they explain brining someone back from the dead? And if you have, have you seen that authors do that a lot? No
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Ya. But I'm still kind of confused. Oh well...
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If Harry went back in time to save his parents, his whole future could change, and it could be that he would die when he was six years old because he had run out into the street and gotten killed.
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Ya! That's what I'm trying to ask! If Harry and Hermione did save Harry's parents, were would their "old selves" go?
Ya, but seriously. If Harry went back in time years and years ago to stop his parents from being killed and managed to, then where he they go? Would his "old self" just dissapear and then he would continue living on as a baby? Or would he stay as his old self for a few years until he got to the same time and place where he originally used the Time Turner? Like, remeber in the book and movie, Dumbledore said that they had to return to the same time and place they originally used the Time Turner. And then in the movie you saw that they burst through the doors and you saw their "old selves" kind of fade away and Ron got freaked out? What I'm saying is would Harry have to wait in the past and watch "himself" grow up until he got to the time and place where he used the Time Turner and then his "other" self would dissapear? Because that would be kind of wierd watching yourself, like, grow up again...
I think that he would probably have to wait 13 years until he got to the point in time where he used it originally, but then when he got there it would be completely different because he would suddenly have parents and probably no memory of the 13 years. They wouldn't know what to expect in the 'new' present if they went back in time that far. There's just too much time involved and too many risks. I don't think they would do that, because you really aren't meant to meddle with time too much.
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Ya. Plus it wouldn't make a very good story if Harry fixed everything. And I don't think the ministry would allow him because he put's the wizard world in danger.
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Although if he was thinking of doing it, he probably wouldn't tell the Ministry before doing so.
I just thought of something (it may have already been said...oh well). If Harry had used a Time Turner to save his parents, then Voldemort wouldn't have been stopped, when Lily died for Harry, Voldemort's curse backfired, etc. So even if he had saved his parents, they may have just come back to a future where Voldemort was still powerful, maybe even in control, and then they might have died anyway.
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Well..I guess you're right..
The time turner...i think because it's wrong to mess with time and change history,it could end out wrong...
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Ya they cud end up seeing themselves and then their future selves would get all confused and everything and they might go crazy trying to figure out who those people were and harry might think that it was his father and....ya u get the point
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cud i answer it?i haven't read the whole discussione..but i'll giv the points..from ME..which might have bin mentione abv..so:
buckbeak was not brought back from death.. as he was never killed.. he was saved using TimeTuner...which help harry n hermy to be in two place at a single instance.
i think they were not dead, but were about to be killed.... Dumbledore says " more than one innocent life can be spared "
Using time turner, you can go back in time, it is impossible to rasie sum1 who is already dead but by using time turner, they went back in time when buckbeak was alive. so he did not return from dead coz he never died
the past said
buckbeak escaped
wid the tym trunr they kinda modified the past..filled it
bucky escapd wid harry n hermione...
if u can get my point..
u ask ..why not james n lily..n others?
i say
nobody knew abt it till later!!
n till then they wer already killed!!
"in bucky's case..it was..u knw..meant to be..it wsnt meant 2 b killed!
it was NOT killed..it HAD escaped..
as it is..even magic actually CANT change what's WRITTEN THERE..
n u knw..u can always find SOME loophole in this TT thingy!"
actually..i have discussed this before..so im givin MY points..if u guys..reply..then i can answer.. [/):]
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"Alright, I love Harry Potter more than words can say... But, I noticed something peculiar and wondered what you all thought about this:
You know how in "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban" (Book 3), Hermione uses the "Time Turner" to go back in time to save Sirius from being caught and Buckbeak from being executed? Well, why didn't they just use the Time Turner to save Sirius' life in Book 5? Or Dumbledore in Book 6? Or Lupin, Tonks, Mad-Eye, Ted, and Fred in Book 7? Or Harry's parents from being killed by Voldemort in the very beginning?? They could have even killed Voldemort himself waaaay sooner had they just used that device!! It just doesn't make any sense. I mean, how could J.K. use it in Book 3 but then forget all about it in all the other books? Are there rules about the Time Turner that I just missed? Or is this an overlooked flaw in the plan? If it IS a flaw, well that's just lame; so many character's lives could have been saved!"