The Lorien Legacies discussion

Since reading Fall of Five, particularly after John wakes from the coma and he thinks "“I’m not ready to focus on the identity of the one we’ve lost or what to do about Ella or the fact that Setrákus Ra might actually be Loric.”

Excerpt From: Pittacus, Lore. “The Fall of Five (I Am Number Four).” HarperCollins, 2013-08-26T16:00:00+00:00. iBooks.

I read on The Lorien wikia Six saw scars on Ra's ankle the looked liked they same scars the Garde has. Also, supposedly, only Loric can wear the charm necklace and Ra is seen wearing them.

Thoughts????

it could be a garde passing for setrakus ra

I think hes loric. like I seriously do. he has legacies , which mogs don't hav, and hes probably related to ella so ya I think hes from lorien

I've been thinking its Ella's father. He was offended when his family was taken out of the Elders but why would he kill his own people?! They are almost extinct! I wish one of the Garde could bring back the dead.

Yeah he would need a pretty serious motive to want to wipe out the entire Loric race...

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@christi so i have a theory:
Marina gets an icy feeling whenever she heals.
When Eight died she made that ice storm thing that stabbed Five in the eye.
It said Eight was encased in the ice.
I think that if the Mogs try to do the same experiment with Eight as they did One then possibly Eight will be resurrected or reincarnate into a Mog or one of his characters.
Whenever i share my theory, people always say something to the sort of: well, that's to big of a power.
No it's not.
Six can turn invisible, control the weather, has mind communication, AND has great control with her telekinesis.
Nine has anit-gravity, can transfer powers(even to humans), super speed, telekinesis, and a few others i have failed to memorize.
Eight had teleportation, shape-shift, mind communication, telekinesis, etc.
Why, then, is it so difficult to believe that Marina couldn't have developed a major legacy if SO many others have major ones?

He is the mog leader and is the one trying to kill them (he is the one who wears one, two and threes pendants)

yea i think Setrakus is Ella's father. think about it trueborn mogs dont have legacies, Setrakus mentioned Ella as his heir which usually means they are related by blood, he hated the elders, he has the scars, can wear pendants. so it wouldnt surprise if he isnt but even a bigger surprise if he wasnt hahaha

Jacob wrote: "yea i think Setrakus is Ella's father. think about it trueborn mogs dont have legacies, Setrakus mentioned Ella as his heir which usually means they are related by blood, he hated the elders, he ha..."
i mean wouldnt surprise me if he is

Abby wrote: "@christi so i have a theory:
Marina gets an icy feeling whenever she heals.
When Eight died she made that ice storm thing that stabbed Five in the eye.
It said Eight was encased in the ice.
I th..."

sounds possible!

I think that Setrakus Ra is Ella's grandfather because in the letter from Crayton, it said that Ella was a legacy of one of the Elders. Also, Setrakus Ra seems to have legacies

Abby wrote: "@christi so i have a theory:
Marina gets an icy feeling whenever she heals.
When Eight died she made that ice storm thing that stabbed Five in the eye.
It said Eight was encased in the ice.
I th..."

Yes!!! I think that could totally happen!!!What if by accidentally freezing 8, Marina saved him.

Well...He's definitely a loric. He has powers that mog usually don't have. He related to ella as heir. I don't think he's her father, he was still in lorien in his crazy way when the mog attacked....I don't know!!
But if you think......pittacus is described as very tall and different form other loric.....Ra is the same, bigger then the mog and other people!!!
I don't remember in which book, but at a certain point is said that pittacus disappeared, right?he didn't come back to lorien.....what if he is ra??? too much conspiracy??? sorry.. :D

Virginia wrote: "I don't remember in which book, but at a certain point is said that pittacus disappeared, right?he didn't come back to lorien.....what if he is ra??"

Malcolm stated that the last elder known as Pittacus died in the capsule/ship buried in the Goode Family's yard.

I can see Setrakus Ra being 'the 10th elder' that was removed and banished (I believe it was mentioned in a Lost Files book). That caused him to work with the Mog's to take down the Loric, and Ella is his descendant.

I also think that the possibility of one of the eight elders remaining might make an appearance in one of the remaining books. There is only documentation of one elder, known as Pittacus, dying. I don't believe we know any of the other elder's names...I think that is by design.

As far as 8 is concerned...he is dead in his current form. When 1 died, her consciousnesses was transferred into Adam. It could be possible for 8's consciousness to be transferred into another true-born Mog, but I don't that is something that will be tried again, after the Mog's determined it to be a failure with Adam, and turned him into a traitor. I fear he is removed from the series, and his prophesy was fulfilled.

but....malcolm said that he didnt remember who the skelethon was...or am i wrong?

Virginia wrote: "but....malcolm said that he didnt remember who the skelethon was...or am i wrong?"

Last line in Chapter 16 in The Fall of Five:
      “I know because Pittacus Lore told me.”

Chapter 17 in The Fall of Five:
      “We found a skeleton in your workshop wearing a Loric pendant . . .” John swallows hard before continuing. “Was that him?”
      My dad lowers his gaze. “I’m afraid so. When he arrived, his wounds were so grievous that there was nothing I could do for him.”

ok.. :)

I think Loridas is Setrákus Ra...In the Rise of Nine it is mentioned that Mogadorians and Lorics were friends in the beginning and that both races had been visiting Earth for a long time and then something happened and they became enemies...May be, what happened was that Loridas wanted the Lorics to invade the Mog world and this created the "Secret Mogadorian War" as a result of which he was killed or thought to be killed....Seeing that the Loric were not going with his conquest plans he went to the Mogs and became their Leader introducing the concept of "The Great Expansion"...This may also explain the purple scar in Setrákus Ra's neck is the result of the attempt on Loridas' life...What do you think?

One thing Im sure of is that he's loric. Setrakus Ra might be that ruling elder that was kicked out or smthng (Its mentioned in one of the books) then he lead the mogs to destroy lorien to get revenge from the rest of the elders. Its also mentioned tht ella was from a rich, well-known family on lorien(b4 her dad went mad), maybe, just maybe, tht family might be setrakus ra's family. Maybe she was his grandchild or smthng.

I think he's Loric since SPOILER ALERT!!! SPOILER ALERT! Ella's his decendant. He's probably the tenth elder.

Samantha wrote: "I think he's Loric since SPOILER ALERT!!! SPOILER ALERT! Ella's his decendant. He's probably the tenth elder."

Its hinted but not necessarily confirmed yet but yes I believe the same.

Actually, it is true. If anyone has read Five's Betrayal, there is an excerpt from Revenge of Seven, which is one chapter long, and SPOILER Streakus Ra is her grandfather (or great-grandfather, I forgot) SPOILER END, so therefore it has been confirmed.

Wow hala, u warned b4 spoiling. I'm impressed Lol

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