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Lorien Legacies - What If? Game

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message 1: by Liz (last edited Oct 05, 2013 10:05AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liz Hello Lorien Legacies fans world wide! :)

The rules to this game are simple - The user above you posts a 'What If?' scenario and you have to reply to it by saying what the consequences of that would be, and then post a what if question for the next person to answer.

First question!: What if Lorien had never been invaded by the Mogs?


Rejemae Dela Maybe there were no 1o Gardes who'll fight their ass for their planet and Four would have not met the lame Sarah and Six might be his partner.
The i am number four book would not be published if there were no bad events happened to Lorien and we would have not know a damn thing about Lorien and all the other stuffs.

Now my question: What if the Mogs were pretty dumb to kill the Gardes?


message 3: by Liz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liz Then nothing would change... They already are dumb. Except Adam. ^_^

What If Number Three had gotten away from the Mogs and lived?


Neha Then Adam would be on run with three and Four wouldnt be in danger and would be probably in Ohio. Somehow then the Garde would've find another way to meet.

What if Six wouldnt have reached in time to save John?


Rejemae Dela John will be bidding his farewell to the earth and to the lorien. Another scar would carved to the other remaining Gardes and the traitor, number five will be the next one to be killed.

What if Six didn't go to Spain to search Seven, instead he accompanied John and Sam?


message 6: by Liz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liz Hmmm... Sam would have made it out of the Mog Cave, along with the rest of them and then they'd go look for the Garde again, they'd go to Spain first, finding the destroyed Santa Teresa. Then they would go to India and find Eight.

Back in Spain, Marina, Crayton, Ella and Hector would have had a bigger fight on their hands. Marina would eventually get them to safety, but not before they were badly injured and needed healing. Hector would probably still die but Ella, Marina, and Crayton would be alive but out of action for a few days because Marina would be exhausted from using her legacy so much.

After she recovered they would go to India and meet Eight in the way they originally did. Then while she's fighting Eight, the other Garde would appear and think Eight was attacking Marina and they would all fight him. Eight would shift back to normal and Nine, Four and Six would be mad at him. Then they'd go off to Nine's penthouse and do stuff.

Meanwhile, Adam and Malcolm break into Dulce but Sam isn't there. More troops are free since the Garde never went to Dulce so Adam had to use his earthquake legacy to help them escape, and then he and Malcolm would go with Rex to free the chimaera.

There would at some point be an awesome reunion scene for Sam and Malcolm.

Wow that was a lot... :P

What if Four met Nine first instead of Six?


Neha Then the trio of boys would be searching for other Gardes, and believe me, they'd be fighting A LOT :D!

What if Six wouldnt have escaped her prison?


message 8: by Starcrystal (last edited Oct 21, 2013 07:47PM) (new)

Starcrystal She wouldn't have saved Four and he would have died. The Mogadorians probably would have killed Five and then started searching for Six. Eventually they would realize they had Six, and would kill her. That would only leave Seven, Eight, a captured Nine, and Ella. Also, Sam and Sarah would have most likely not been involved in the story at all.

What would happen if Five had not been a traitor?

Oh yeah, and this was an EPIC idea.


Alyssa then Four, Six, Seven, Eight, Nine and Ella would have found Five in a Mog prison on a deserted island. Broken him out, using a new ray gun Nine found in Sandor's Workshop. where then Five would have found out he has some kick ass legacies and used them for good and NOT EVIL!!!!!

What if Adam had gone into two's head, not One's?


Cassidy If Adam had gone into Two's head, he probably would have reacted the same as he did when he went into One's head. He probably would still be on the Loric's side and have betrayed the Mogs. But that would mean that either he would not have been present at Three's death, there fore not being thrown into a ravine by Ivan and almost dying, or maybe Three's death could have been somehow delayed-giving him time to escape.

What if Eight had died when he was stabbed by Ra in The Rise Of Nine, and not by Five in TFo5?


message 11: by Starcrystal (last edited Oct 22, 2013 07:53PM) (new)

Starcrystal Five would have killed Nine instead in the Fall of Five

What if Four hadn't gotten his Chest in the Power of Six, instead he and Sam accompanied Six to Spain?


message 12: by Neha (new) - rated it 5 stars

Neha Then Nine would be still rotting in prison, but then after picking Seven and Eight they would have tried to go to the cave in West Virgina, and probably Then they wouldve met nine. Just a pretty long guess.

What if Marina didnt have healing legacy??


Cassidy Four would still have the healing legacy... they would still have a healer amongst them!

What if Ella decides to stay with Ra and become his heir?


message 14: by Liz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liz I'm guessing bad things would happen... very bad things. Her innocence would be gone. That in itself would be enough to bring the remaining Garde down, especially Marina. After that things would go downhill, most of the Garde would die. Five would be relieved he wasn't the only Loric on the Mogs side (grrr). All in all, it would probably lead to the invasion of earth and the events we saw near the end of the Fall of Five, in the vision. And that wouldn't be good. It wouldn't be good at all... :(


What if Mark's house never burned down and the Mogs never found Four in Paradise?

Note: This thread is kicking off! :D


message 15: by Starcrystal (new)

Starcrystal We probably would have followed Six's adventures instead of Four's, and she would have either found another Garde or found him on her own. ALTHOUGH the Mogs would have somehow found out about him eventually.

What if Number One comes back to life with a Legacy Five gets?


Cassidy THAT WOULD BE AMAZING BECAUSE I LOVE HER

I am kind of doubtful, though, that someone will just so happen to have that Legacy. We never really heard about it in any of the Lost Files books about Lorien and the parents of our Loric heroes. I would think that it would be a huge deal if someone had that kind of power... but nothing was ever said. Now, speaking with the fallen Loric could be possible. Haha kind of like a Medium? Lol. It just seems too good to be true that they all just come back... as much as we would all VERY much like it :(((

What if they end up surviving and defeating the Mogs, but they don't have any means to get back to Lorien?


message 17: by Starcrystal (new)

Starcrystal That's a hard one. I wouldn't put it past the Mogs to destroy the ship before they all die. They would probably just live out their lives on Earth.

What if all the Garde together equals Pittacus Lore?


message 18: by Liz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liz Ooooh, that wouldn't be good... I think if the humans at this point knew the Loric were the good guys, someone somewhere would start up a charity for them to try and get them to Lorien somehow. There would be a couple of tv shows made about them, they'd be famous. And they would absolutely hate it, I think. So, until they got a running space ship or one of them developed a legacy of rocket ship building they'd be stuck on earth. Four and Sarah would get married and have a baby or more than one. And Eight and Marina get married and live together and have kids and are just basically awesome and happy together! Because Eight needs to be with Marina. Damn death itself. ;) Six and Sam would also get married. Probably. And Nine would just go around being Nine.

Hmmm, maybe if Adam has taken over the Mogs, they would give the Loric a lift. Just thought of that...

Oh, and Sam would be President. Just because.

What if Nine's original Cêpan, Daxin, had survived and escaped Lorien instead of Sandor ?


message 19: by Liz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liz Oops sorry! I'll just answer that one!


message 20: by Liz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liz If they all make up Pittacus, they need to find a way to bring back the dead first! After they're successful in doing that, there's an epic final fight scene where Setrakus thinks Four is Pittacus and is about to defeat him when all of the Garde (and Adam?) step out of the shadows...

What if Nine original Cêpan survived instead of Sandor?


message 21: by Starcrystal (new)

Starcrystal They probably wouldn't have had the penthouse, and Nine might have never gotten captured.

What if Ella's Chimaera, Olivia, had survived?


Cassidy I would bet that she did! She might have been on the ship with Ella (presuming that she lived through the actual battle on Lorien) and was taken to Earth. I bet Olivia is one of the Chimaera that Adam rescued!! Hope so!

What if BK didn't make it?? D:


message 23: by Liz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liz Depressing things. Depressing things would happen. The Garde would be devastated.

And Pittacus Lore? Let's just say I think he would have a blood thirsty mob on his hands. One does not just kill BK dude. Not cool.

What if the Mogadorians began to see how screwed up they were and rebelled against Setrakus?


Cassidy I agree! I don't think this fandom would/could handle BK's death! *shivers* Rebellion, I say!!

Unlikely, but it would be a quick way to wrap up the series! The Loric would win, happily make a treaty, and go back home! You know, after they clean up Earth from the huge battle that will take place... xD

What if Ella ends up dying and leaves Ra without his 'heir?'


message 25: by Starcrystal (last edited Oct 24, 2013 12:21PM) (new)

Starcrystal Ra probably won't care that much considering his character.......but Marina would be so, so, sad. Eight, and then Ella. Don't do it, Lore. Just don't go there. And if BK dies, it's time to break out the flamethrowers.

What if Adam had told the rest of the Mogs that the experiment had worked, but he was now seeing the ghost of One, like, everywhere?


Cassidy Oooohh thats a good one. I think that Adam never would have physically betrayed the Mogs, (he might have still hated them in his head) and that he would have ended up telling them some sort of info that seriously hurt the Garde's well being. He never would have rescued the Chimaera because he never would have been able to escape, (if i were them, id keep him under lock and key to prevent anything of the like), and he wouldn't have One's kick ass Legacy because she wouldn't trust him enough to give it to him!


What if Fives Cepan hadn't died so early on?


message 27: by Liz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liz If Five's Cepan hadn't died so early, the Mogs wouldn't have found him that quick and he might have stayed on the Loric side. He might have actually got on with Nine and he wouldn't have lured the Garde into a trap and killed Eight, so they'd all be kind of safe in Chicago despite Ella being in a coma...

What if Marina's Cepan Adelina never abandoned the Loric cause?


Cassidy Then Marina and Adelina would have traveled the globe in efforts to escape the Mogs, she would have been way harder to track down, and i don't think she would have met Ella! Ella would have had to find them some other way.

What if Nine had developed a Legacy, like Six, and escaped on his own from his prison? What might that Legacy have been?


message 29: by Liz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liz He would have started to look for the other Garde. He might have found John in Paradise at the same time as Six except he would have been more upfront in his approach. (I just have an image of him walking up to John and asking him if he was Number Four) He would have hit it off with Six and they would have trashed those Mogs at the school, extra help might have meant Henri survived. Then they would have gone to Spain to find Marina or to Nine's penthouse.

His legacy could have been the ability to create illusions, or walk through walls. Either one would work. And they're both awesome! He could have used the illusions to make it look like he was a Mog guard who got trapped in there or as if he was gone, then when the force field went down he would have high tailed it out of there. If he could walk through walls, he could have just walked out. :P

What if Adam's brother Ivan had gone into One's memories instead of him?


Cassidy I like the whole illusions thing! I can only image the things Nine would make people imagine....

If Ivanick had gone into One's head, he for sure would have relayed every single detail back to the Mogs, giving them a huge advantage. He would not have shown any mercy to One at all, and he would have been greatly commended for it by the General and the rest of the colony.
I think it would be funny if One stayed in HIS head, because she would have completely driven him insane and i dont think SHE would have shown mercy. Maybe she never would have faded away and driven him mad for the rest of his life! :D Lol

What if Crayton had told Ella the truth before he died.. instead of writing it in a letter for her to read?


message 31: by Liz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liz She might have had more time to come to terms with it, making her more determined. She might have seen it as a motivation to show she was as good as the other Garde. She would have wondered about her parents too, and what the secret wars were.


message 32: by Liz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liz What if Malcolm and Adam had arrived in Paradise at the same time as Six and were part of the school fight?


message 33: by Starcrystal (new)

Starcrystal Henri would have still been alive, and I think Sam would have stayed at home, since both his parents were there. Four and Six and Adam would have gone and done all the other stuff together.
And Cassidy, I can just picture One standing right next to Ivan during a Mog mission, shrieking out the Dora theme song off key:D

What if Adam had been with Sam and Malcolm when they met Six, Sarah, Five, and Four in Arkansas?


Cassidy OMG COULD YOU IMAGINE?! That would be the best scene of the series. Hands down xD

That comment just made my night :D

I think it would have been a little better transition, not so "Hi im Adam, a Mog, that is going to fight with you!" and he would have gotten to prove his loyalty by fighting in that battle.
Then again, i doubt Adam would have had the chance to rescue all the Chimaera! (Can't wait to see what happens with them in the next book!)

What if more people than just Marina and Eight were unconditionally nice to Five when he arrived?


message 35: by Starcrystal (new)

Starcrystal Five probably would have not knocked Six out and not taken out Nine, which might have given them a chance to subdue and knock some sense into him.

What if Sarah dies?


message 36: by Neha (new) - rated it 5 stars

Neha Four would be really heartbroken, probably he'll turn totally badass and all that, but he'll mever be the same. He'll be like dead-serious version of Pittacus. He'll try to take every responsibility on his shoulders so that he outs his grief into work, but he'd be broken inside permanently.

What if Eight would have teleported all of them (8,6,7,10) in New Mexico from India?


message 37: by Starcrystal (new)

Starcrystal They would have had a heck of an easier time getting in the base. But other then that it wouldn't change very much.

What if the real Number Ten also made it off Lorien, in some other way, and is introduced in the next book?(as a girl)


message 38: by Liz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liz I think Ella would feel more left out and maybe a bit bitter towards the real Ten. She might feel unwanted and envious and, if she's treated well by Setrakus, she might pretend to be the real Ten just to feel like she's still important. Which might cause her to actually join them and lose sight of her goals.

By the way, just read the previous posts and oh my gosh the image of One singing Dora as Ivan marches into battle just cracks me up!

What if the Garde all swapped bodies, before the charm was broken but after Three's death? Four goes into Five, Five goes into Six, and so on, and Ella goes into Four.


message 39: by Starcrystal (new)

Starcrystal Ummmmm, that would be really weird, especially since a bunch of them are different genders. They would experience a sudden change in behavior.

What if Two's Cepan had escaped and is alive, but Two still died?


Cassidy It's possible, but i thought it was him that was fighting all the Mogs out in the street and Two was left alone in the room? I could be wrong. (Maybe it was just some random dude? Haha). i'd think they would have had some kind of escape plan formed... some way to try and protect Two. Why would her Cepan just leave her to fend for herself?

What if Ella had pulled Eight into her coma instead of Four?


message 41: by Starcrystal (new)

Starcrystal Nine would have died and Eight would not have. Lore wouldn't kill off Four, much as I know everyone would like him to, so Five would have stabbed Nine. Eight does not have a healing Legacy, so Ella would not have been captured and Malcolm would have died. We would also have a nearly perfect chance of Eight narration in the next book.

What if Five had not killed Eight?


message 42: by Liz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liz If Five didn't kill Eight (or Nine, I'm presuming) then he might have gone back with them and tried to start over a new leaf, though the others wouldn't trust him as much but I think he would still have gotten on with Marina and Eight, though maybe if Pitt was writing it he would create a weird 7/8/5 love triangle. That would be awkward. :P They would be able to get back to Chicago sooner and would all have to go and save Ella.

What if Mark and Sarah had gone with Four, Six and Sam at the end of I Am Number Four?


message 43: by Starcrystal (new)

Starcrystal Six and Four would probably not have started to like each other. They would also be listed for three kidnappings instead of one. I don't think Mark would have gone with them, he didn't know or like Four that much. And I don't think Six would let either Mark or Sarah come, you know?

What if Five and Nine's roles had been reversed(same Legacies)?


message 44: by Liz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liz Yeah, I know what you mean.

Ooh, that's a hard one. I think if Nine took them to the Everglades he wouldn't have had Five's externa so he would have found some other way to fight them. I think he would be conflicted between whether the Mogs were good or not, and hopefully no one would have died.

What if BK hadn't made it off Lorien?


message 45: by Starcrystal (new)

Starcrystal Four probably would have died. We would be missing an epic character.

What if Four hadn't gone to see Sarah in the Power of Six, instead he did what he was supposed to?


Cassidy Then I don't think people would bye Sarah quite as much as they do. No one would have been mad at him. Lol

What if Marina had decided to leave and go off on her own?


message 47: by Neha (new) - rated it 5 stars

Neha Well she wasnt brave enough for that (sorry but its true) unless she was scared by the mogs presence in the town. But if she would have left without her Cepan she would've planned to meet john first since she was certain about him in the news.


If she'd have ran away before mogs attacking four Maybe she'd have met six and then become besties (which they already are) and saved john from mogs attack together LIKEA A BOSS :D


Awesome possiblities mentioned in this topic :D.
Ok, so what if Sam wouldnt be John's best friend??


message 48: by Liz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Liz If Sam wasn't John's best friend, he probably would have stayed in Paradise since he wouldn't have been at the school attack. He would probably become involved when his Dad and Adam showed up, though. They wouldn't have gone to Dulce and might have gone to the chimaera.

If Sam wasn't John's best friend, a lot of Lorien Legacy fans would be sad... :(

Haha, I didn't think the discussion would be this popular to be honest. :P


What if the Garde had been teenagers when they left Lorien?


Cassidy If they were older when they left, they probably, (okay, lets be honest, DEFINITELY) would have been more mature (especially Nine ;) and had their Legacies under better control. Also, they would have more Legacies and they might have been able to better help fight off the invading Mogs.. you know, seeing as how they're destined to be the new Elders and all :P
They would all have normal Loric names instead of numbers, they would remember their parents and Lorien better, and it would definitely been way harder on them BECAUSE they remember those things. Their whole life that they had built up would have been torn apart. I think it was better that they left when they were so young.

What if Sarah had insisted on going with John, Six, and Sam after the battle in Paradise?


message 50: by Starcrystal (new)

Starcrystal Four's Chest probably wouldn't have been stolen. Four and Six wouldn't have started falling in love.

What if when they get back to Lorien, they find that there are Lorics there who survived using Legacies?
(I had a dream about this, it was a creepy dream. That's why I'm asking the question)


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