The Next Best Book Club discussion

Some of the rules have changed slightly, so please read this if you plan on participating, even if you have been playing for a long time. Big thanks to Rebecca for moderating this challenge in my absence :)


Start: November 1, 2013
*Any book that you finish after this date can be used for this challenge.
End: January 31, 2014

1. Here is how you find the page:
- Find the book you just read and click on it so you get to the book's main page page. For example: Click on the link:The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger.
- After you get to this page, look all the way to the right hand side and scroll down a little to find "Genres" and then a link to click on "See top shelves... click on it and you should get to this page (https://www.goodreads.com/work/shelve...) which is a list of the most popular shelves for Catcher in the Rye. Now you mark off the shelves you "touched" from our official list of Shelf-a-Thon 18 shelves.

2. A single book may be found on several shelves however we will only count the first 2 pages of top shelves for this book. For example, you may find a book that has 201+ pages of shelves (Catcher in the Rye), but only count the first two pages.

3. You don’t have to read off the shelves in any particular order.

4. The name of shelves must MATCH EXACTLY to the shelf you are trying to count. No deviations are acceptable (check the spelling off the official list below). For example one shelf reads: 2011-read and another 2011-reads or childrens or children-s.

5. It is highly likely to read a book that is found on a shelf you've already counted. I may read 10 books that include the shelf "books-i-own". Once I crossed it off, I do not count it as an additional shelf.

6. Reporting:
All we want you to report on the thread is the number of books you've read and the number of shelves these books are found on. Do not report titles because that will give your competitors a strategic edge. I will be creating a another thread where people can post questions on where to find a shelf. So if someone is looking specifically for economics, they can ask other players where they found that shelf. Some of us would like to keep this a secret, as it may give the competitors who are trying to get the most shelves more of an advantage.

For example:
52 shelves
2 books

You must track the titles read and the shelves on your own. You can come up with your own method of tracking. I personally print the list and highlight the shelves I have hit, but someone out there may have made a excel spreadsheet, which can be requested by other players via email.

7. HOW DO I GET RID OF SHELVES I CAN'T TOUCH??
If you read a book with a certain amount of pages, you can cross off a shelf you are finding difficult to hit. If you cross off a shelf and later hit it, you CANNOT change your original shelf. You must choose another shelf to cross off.

* If a book has 400-499 pages - Mark off 1 extra shelf of your choice
* If a book has 500-599 pages - Mark off 2 extra shelves of your choice
* If a book has 600-699 pages - Mark off 3 extra shelves of your choice
* For more than 700 pages - Mark off 4 extra shelves of your choice

Please include this in your reporting.

For example:
216 shelves
23 books
Book over 400 pages, crossed off so and so shelf.

8. At the end of the first and second month, the top three shelvers will be allowed to cross off 3 shelves. I will also randomly (names out of a hat) pick 3 people to cross off 2 shelves of their choice.

9. We will continue to celebrate GR authors, so if you read a book by a Goodreads author, you can eliminate one shelf. Again, this information should be included in your reporting. If a book is written by dual authors and both are Goodreads authors, only one is allowed for an extra shelf cross-off.

For example:
102 shelves
5 books
Book by a Goodreads author, crossed off so and so shelf.

10. So I read a book and had no new shelves!!!
I know this has happened to me plenty of times and it is disappointing to not have a single cross-off. This time around any book you read that is OVER 100 pages that did not touch a single shelf, you are allowed ONE cross-off extra.

11. Objective
The "winner" is one who has either read off all 400 shelves noted on the official list or who has read the most off these 400 shelves by the end date, January 31st.

*It is no longer necessary and optional to keep track of how many times you touch a shelf.

**Please do keep track of a shelf you crossed off that were extras. For example: this last round I crossed off "magic" due to a GR Author only to hit it later on with another book. There will be a purpose for this in Shelf-A-Thon 19.

***Shelves for the next round will be posted either later today or tomorrow/ and yes we have jumped to 400!!

****Cross offs from round 17 will be allowed for individuals who touched a shelf (no extras allowed) that is no longer on this rounds list.

If you have any questions, please ask here and either I or a seasoned player will respond to help you out.

I am compiling the shelf for the next challenge, so I first want to follow the official 350 shelves from last challenge before adding the additional 50 shelves. As in previous challenges, participants who have crossed off a shelf that is no longer part of the next challenge will have the opportunity to cross off shelves in this challenge. Remember that if you crossed off a shelf because of GR authors, page requirements or end of the month winners, you cannot include them in your next round cross offs.

For example- I crossed off "meh" for reading a GR author, so I cannot include this because I did not cross it off due to a book I actually read that had the shelf listed. Now if I read a book and crossed it off because it was listed in the top shelves, I can cross off a shelf this round.

DO NOT CROSS OFF SHELVES FOR THE CURRENT ROUND (17).

Shelves that did not make the cut.

kindle-book
kindle-lendable
music
own-but-haven-t-read
short-story
tbr-pile
to-read-ebook
unowned
women

**I am also taking away currently-reading and to-read because these shelves are almost always a given.
***The above shelves will still be included in the official 400 shelves for Shelf-A-Thon 18 (with the exception of currently-reading and to-read).
****In order to make it easier for those with a spreadsheet, I will include the new shelves with an asterisk.

The Official Shelves of Round 18!!



1
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
2011
2012
2013
2014*
1001-books
2011-reads
2012-books
2012-read
2012-reads
2013-books
2013-challenge
2013-read
2013-reading-challenge
2013-reading-list*
2013-reads
2013-to-read*
20th-century
3-stars
4-star
4-stars
5-star
5-stars
a*
abandoned
action
action-adventure
adult
adult-fiction
adventure
all
all-time-favorites
already-read
amazon*
american
and
animals
arc
art
at-library
audible
audio
audiobook
audio-book
audiobooks
audio-books
auf-gar-keinen-fall*
available
bdsm
biography
book
bookclub
book-club
books
bookshelf
books-i-have
‪books-i-own‬
books-i-own-to-read*
books-i-want
books-owned*
books-read-in-2012*
books-read-in-2013
books-to-buy
borrowed
bought
british
business
buy
calibre
chick-lit
childhood
children
childrens
children-s
childrens-books
children-s-books
christian
christian-fiction
classic
classics
collection
college
comedy
comics
coming-of-age
coming-soon
contempor​ary
contemporary-fiction
contemporary-romance
could-not-finish*
couldn-t-finish
crime
daddy-dark-s-baby-warrior-list
dark
death
default
did-not-finish
didn-t-finish
digital*
dnf
done
don-t-own*
do-not-own
downloaded
drama
dystopia
dystopian
ebook
e-book
ebooks
e-books
ebooks-i-own
england
english
epub
epubs
erotic
erotic-romance*
erotica
europe
family
fantasy
fantasy-sci-fi
faves
favorite
favorite-author*
favorite-authors
favorite-books
favorite-series*
favorites
favourite
favourites
favourite-books*
favs
fiction
fiction-to-read
finished
first-in-series
first-reads
for-fun*
for-review
free
freebie
freebies
friendship
fun
funny
gave-up*
gave-up-on
general
general-fiction
german*
giveaways
graphic-novel
graphic-novels
guilty-pleasures*
hardcover
have
have-it*
have-read
high-school
historical
historical-fiction
historical-romance
history
home
home-library
horror
humor
humour
in
in-english
in-my-library
interesting
i-books*
‪‪i-own‬‬
i-own-it
ipad
juvenile
kids
kids-books*
kindle
kindle-book
kindle-books
kindle-lendable
kindle-to-read
kobo
later*
lendable
library
library-book
library-books
lit*
literary
literary-fiction
literature
listened-to*
looks-interesting
love
loved
loved-it
magic
manga
maybe
maybe-read
maybe-to-read*
meh
memoir
middle-grade*
might-read
military*
mine
misc
mm
m-m
modern
modern-fiction
music
must-read
must-reads
my-books
my-bookshelf
my-collection*
my-ebooks
my-favorites
my-library
mysteries
mystery
mystery-suspense
mystery-thriller
mythology
need
need-to-buy
need-to-get
netgalley
never-finished
new
new-adult
‪next
next-to-read
next-up
nonfiction
non-fiction
nook
nook-books
not-finished*
not-interested
not-out-yet
not-owned
not-read
not-yet-released
novel
novels
on-deck
on-hold
on-kindle
on-my-bookshelf
on-my-kindle
on-my-shelf
on-the-shelf
other
own
own-a-copy
own-but-haven-t-read
own-but-not-read
own-ebook
owned
owned-books
owned-not-read
owned-to-read
own-it
own-kindle
own-not-read
own-tbr
own-to-read
own-unread
paper*
paperback
paranormal
paranormal-romance
part-of-a-series
pdf*
personal-library
philosophy
picture-books
poetry
politics
print
psychology
public-library*
purchased
random
read-2009*
read-2010
read-2011
read-2012
read-2013
read-again
read-in-2009
read-in-2010
read-in-2011
read-in-2012
read-in-2013
read-in-english
read-more-than-once
read-next
read-soon*
realistic-fiction
really-want-to-read
recommendations*
recommended
reference
relationships
religion
reread
re-read
re-reads*
review
reviewed
romance
romantic*
romantic-suspense*
scanned
school
science
science-fiction
scifi
sci-fi
scifi-fantasy*
sci-fi-fantasy
self-help*
series
series-to-read*
sf
short-stories
short-story
speculative-fiction*
stand-alone
started
stories
summer-2013
summer-reading
supernatural
suspense
tbr
tbr-own*
tbr-pile
teen
thriller
thrillers
to-be-read
to-be-released
to-buy
to-find*
to-get
to-purchase
to-read-2*
to-read-2013
to-read-ebook
to-read-kindle*
to-read-fiction
to-read-maybe*
to-read-next
to-read-own
to-read-owned
to-read-soon
to-reread
to-re-read
to-review
travel
unfinished
unowned
unread
unsorted
up-next
urban-fantasy
usa*
vampire
vampires
waiting*
waiting-to-be-read
want
wanted
want-to-buy
want-to-own
want-to-read
war
will-not-read
wishlist
wish-list
women
ya
ya-fiction
young-adult
young-adult-fiction*

Angela ... Sorry, but the English major / copy editor in me is coming out. Your rule #1 is stated in a way that conflicts with other rules.

You write: i.e. to have read a book off the classics shelf, you must read a book that is found on the "classics" shelf within the first 3 pages.

The way you state it we would go to the "classics" shelf and then search for our title within the first 3 pages of that shelf.

Based on further explanations in the rules, I think you mean that the book has to have "classics" listed in the first 3 pages of shelves on that book's list of top shelves. (This is what I think we've been doing.)

Sorry Book Concierge. I will change it.

I just deleted it, since it is confusing. I have been using rule #1 in all the challenges because that is from the rules of another group that started this challenge years ago. I think the game makes sense without it. If not, maybe you can help me word it so it makes sense :)

Angela wrote: "I just deleted it, since it is confusing. I have been using rule #1 in all the challenges because that is from the rules of another group that started this challenge years ago. I think the game makes sense without it...."

Angela ... you're right ... the rules make perfect sense without the first statement.

Angela ...
Is the official list cast in stone ... or will you review/revise it on Nov 1 to reflect what the top shelves are on that date?

Oh, just noticed that you are "taking away 'currently-reading' and 'to-read' because these shelves are almost always a given."

It was kinda nice to know that we'd automatically have at least 2 shelves that count ... but I also understand that these are status shelves like "read" (which never appears on the list of top shelves).

hi angela - can you explain why the rules were changed to three pages of shelves instead of only the first pages. (i'm curious to understand the reason behind the change)

QUESTION re: "to-read-2013"
According to my list ...

For Shelf-a-thon 17 the shelf was "to-read-in-2013"

SO, is this a typo or is this a new shelf and the one with the word "in" has been deleted?

Angela wrote: "****Cross offs from round 17 will be allowed for individuals who touched a shelf (no extras allowed) that is no longer on this rounds list. ..."


QUESTION .... since you have added 50 shelves there are no cross-offs EXCEPT for "to-read" and "currently-reading" which you removed.

So does everyone just get two extra shelves to cross-off, or are we not doing this at all this round?

@Book Concierge -

Round 16 had to-read-2013 AND to-read-in-2013 but Round 17 it was just to-read-2013.

Do we have to start the book today or can we have already started it?

Okay, I see there are a lot of questions. Let me try to answer them as well as I can.

1)Message 2 in this thread has the cross-off lists for those who participated in last the last round. To read and currently reading will not give anyone extra shelves to cross off since they were removed due to being a given, not because the fell off the list of top shelves.

2)The book can be started before today, but must be finished within the dates of the challenge to cross off shelves.

3)The shelves in message 3 of this thread are final.

4)I decided to go with 3 pages because of the increase in shelves (from 350 to 400). Also, since most of the top shelves are within the first page, it may be easier to get some of the other ones. In order to not give everyone too much change, I will change it to the first 2 shelves. I want everyone who participates to have fun.

***PLEASE NOTE***

Changing rules to first 2 pages!!!

QUESTION ....

"books- i -read-in-2012" (13,669 books)
or
"books-read-in-2012" (54,433 books)

Which shelf is officially on the list?

Sorry Book Concierge your right, it is books-read-in-2012. I will edit it now.

quick question..if i read a book that is 500-599 pages and is by a Goodreads author do I get both cross offs or just one?

Dawn wrote: "quick question..if i read a book that is 500-599 pages and is by a Goodreads author do I get both cross offs or just one?"

Both

Sweet...Thanks.

Angela wrote: "11. Objective
The "winner" is one who has either read off all 400 shelves noted on the official list or who has read the most off these 400 shelves by the end date, January 30th....

QUESTION re the deadline .... rule 11 states January 30th ... but top of thread says the game ends January 31st ....

Are we going to January 31 or ending a day early on Jan 30?

You are really sharp, eh? Sorry but yes the cutoff is the end of January (the 31st). Will change that so there is no confusion.

Angela wrote: "You are really sharp, eh? Sorry but yes the cutoff is the end of January (the 31st). Will change that so there is no confusion."

When I took a journalism course I really was GOOD at copy-editing!