VAMPIRES DON'T SPARKLE discussion

I don’t know why I didn’t write this on here already, but I pretty much gave up on The Vampire Diaries and True Blood a long time ago.

I watched probably the first three seasons of The Vampire Diaries, and I have no idea why because it is too similar to Twilight. I do realize The Vampire Diaries came first in 1991(the books that is). I suppose I started watching it because it was darker and they didn’t totally steer away from the classics. LOL...I did like that one scene in that episode of season one, where they had Damon sitting on Caroline’s bed reading Twilight, and he’s all like, “What is this crap? I miss Anne Rice.”
Then Caroline says, “Why don’t you sparkle in the sun?”, to which he replies, “Uuum…because I live in the real world where vampires burst into flames.”. You have to admit that was funny…and good for them for going there!

The Vampire Diaries is just lame because, for starters, the vampires went to high school (like in Twilight). There was that whole magical ring thing, they hardly ever showed their fangs (when they did it was for a split second). Everytime there was something catastrophic happening there was always some dance, a ball or some other formal event going on at the same time. That happened in like every other episode and it was lame. I suppose Klaus was a cool bad guy, but I hated the fact that they gave him his own show rather than killing him off. Is The Vampire Diaries even still on??? Does anyone even still watch that crap? And didn’t what’s her name, the girl who played Elena Gilbert leave the show?

True Blood was eh…okay for the first two seasons. I even read the first book. But when I started watching season three, I was like, “This is getting incredibly stupid...I'm out of here”. Some of it was stupid to begin with, like that crap with the humans getting high off the vampire blood (or “V” was what it’s street name was). I began to not like the whole premise, you know, vampires being used as a metaphor for racism and descrimintation against homosexuals, etc. I mean those are issues that should be addressed, but why do it with vampires? So now I basically hate it. I actually had a True Blood coffee cup on the shelf next to my drawing table. I recently threw the fucking thing out and replaced it with a Breaking Bad coffee cup (hell yeah, that show is brilliant!)

So I now realize that both those things basically suck too, but still... nothing is nearly as horrible as Twilight! It really is the worst vampire story ever conceived.

I’m just really sick of this whole “vampire who is morally conflicted” or even “this vampire is a good vampire” crap. I mean, yeah it was cool when they did it with Angel and Spike in, what is referred to by the fans as the “Buffyverse”, but that was different. Forever Knight was cool too.

Why can’t we just go back to the good old days where vampires were scary and evil, and you had to kill them with wooden stakes, sunlight, crosses, etc. You know, even when they did that Dracula TV show on NBC, they made Drac all tortured and struggling with his humanity too even though they had him kill people. A lot of people think that The Strain is saving the whole vampire genre, but I don’t agree.

Basically, the only recent vampire thing that I actually like is 30 Days of Night, thank God for that. I heard that show Penny Dreadful is pretty decent, but have never watched it. Maybe I should check that out.

I am still hoping that we will one day see the vampire restored to the scary monster that it used to be once again.

You forgot to mention Shadowhunters, more of the same teenage vamp drama. But I do like The Strain, scary adult program.

K.D. wrote: "You forgot to mention Shadowhunters, more of the same teenage vamp drama. But I do like The Strain, scary adult program."

Oh, I didn't even know that Shadowhunters had vampires in it! Really? I thought that was about demons. LOL .

The Strain is okay, I just don't like Del Torro's take on vampires. Yes, his vamps are scary, but they are more like bloodsucking aliens to me.

For me, vampires are always going to be parasitic predators that appear human.

Essentially they are a metaphor of psychopaths - monsters that appear human - but are true monsters.

Psychopaths do not suffer from moral ambivalence - they do not question the morality of their actions - they just do what they do - with ruthless abandon and a clear focus on what they believe is good for them.

I remember that I used to like The vampire diaries when I read the books in the early nineties, so I tried watching the show when it started and though Damon has his moments I just can't be bothered with it. I really liked True blood in the beginning, even more than the books actually but during the last couple of seasons I just wanted it to end. And I stopped reading the books when they started to be too much about creatures that weren't vampires as well. Then again, I think I stopped watching Buffy long before the end too, for similar reasons.

There is something very compelling about the traditional myth.

When I have nightmares - there are typically vampires involved.

Graeme Wrote: For me, vampires are always going to be parasitic predators that appear human.

Essentially they are a metaphor of psychopaths - monsters that appear human - but are true monsters.

Hey, Graeme...what you said is the way I always saw it! Well, you used the word "psychopath", I use the word "Evil" (and not necessarily from a Christian point of view). That was my thing, at least when I got into my early twenties. I just became aware of all the horrible things that people have done and are capable of and it made me sick. Like the holocaust, serial killers and even much smaller things we do to each other every day. It was like reading vampire stories and watching vampire movies was me exorcising my own demons. Sounds negative but we all know it's true.

A creature that gets to live forever by feeding off the blood of every living person around them and thereby killing them night after night for all eternity... can anything get more evil than that???

Few people actually know this, but what really got Bram Stoker to finally write Dracula was because the crimes of Jack the Ripper made him aware of the existence of contemporary evil within society, and he felt the need to express it. If anyone wants to argue that any what I have said is wrong, then tell me what world you live in??? What, where Unicorns puke rainbows, the streets are paved with candy, and gum drops grow on trees?? I want to go live there!

Despite what I just said, I actually don't like to dig into things too much or over analyze them. Books in particular because it is partly just plain old fun, but on the other hand there is a certain extent of looking at it that is okay by me.

That is the way vampires should be...a metaphor for contemporary evil.

Hi Dan. Precisely.

Dan wrote: "Despite what I just said, I actually don't like to dig into things too much or over analyze them."
I agree, Dan. For my vampire novels I've come up with an elaborate, scientific explanation for how vampires exist and mostly-believable reasons for their powers and weaknesses... but I don't tell the reader. Explaining it to the reader would take away the mystery.

Perry wrote: "Dan wrote: "Despite what I just said, I actually don't like to dig into things too much or over analyze them."
I agree, Dan. For my vampire novels I've come up with an elaborate, scientific explana..."

Yeah, I really do have to check out your books.