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The sheer unknown numbers of murders, the shoddy investigations and devastating impact are hard to comprehend.

I can't think of enough strong adjectives to describe the horror I felt reading this book. The depth and breadth of the conspiracies is mind boggling.


The FBI was happy to get a big win, but they stopped with one set of murders, and didn't look more closely at others. There were people in the government that had to know something was wrong, but they didn't care or were too scared to do anything about it. The whole system was full of institutionalized racism. They didn't view the people as people.
This is a shameful part of our nation's history.

NancyJ wrote: "As shocked as I was by part 1, it was more shocking to learn that the actual death count might have been in the hundreds......
Law enforcement, doctors, funeral homes, and detectives were either unwilling to investigate or just didn't have the skills. The doctors (and perhaps the funeral homes) were involved in covering up the murders by poisoning. The doctors likely helped to commit some of those murders themselves, by supplying or administering poison. I don't think they were even arrested, were they?
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This was the worst part. While Hale and his bunch were somewhat punished many more were never brought to justice. I can't believe that the two Doctors who were brothers were never arrested. The entire guardianship system was just a license to steal and yet that was not enough for some.

The dehumanization and, like NancyJ said, the institutionalized racism cannot be overexpressed. An entire population of whites were their exploiting and murdering the Osage with little more moral qualms than if they were animals--and maybe less. But it's an important point to make that as bad as Hale was, it didn't end with him. He was a symptom of the bigger issue, and one that still remains today.
I don't want to divert the discussion into politics, but after reading this novel at the same time as the immigration issue and the housing of minors is in headlines is very apropos. I can't help but think what would the national reaction and subsequent reaction be if those kids were white and middle class?

James wrote: "This section was very well done. I was worried that this would be the look-at-what-an-excellent-investigator-journalist-I-am coda, but Grann kept the focus on the victims and their families. He was..."
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What did you think of this final segment and the book?