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message 1: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Dlmrose | 18433 comments Mod
Please post your general questions about the Fall 2014 challenge here. Specific questions about individual tasks should be posted in the Help Threads for those tasks.


message 2: by Irene (last edited Aug 16, 2014 12:48PM) (new)

Irene (raenne) If I'm to use a title that contains a certain word, do I use the title of the exact copy that I read or can I use the original title?
For instance, if I'm to read a book with the word "room" in the title, can I read my Danish copy Rum which is the same book as Room?
I hope you understand my question, it's a little hard to explain! :)

And for covers, which cover do I use? The cover of my copy of the book, or the cover of the most added goodreads copy? :) Most of the titles have a lot of different covers, and I just want to do it right :)

Sorry if these are some dumb questions, it's my first time doing this challenge :)


message 3: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Dlmrose | 18433 comments Mod
Welcome, Irene

Words should appear in the title of the edition you read. Some info:
Books in languages other than English may be used. Please provide information on the book and/or title to your English speaking moderators so they can understand how the books fit the tasks. Any task requiring a specific title (number of letters, number of words, specific word in title, etc.) should apply to the title that you use.

So if "rum" is "room" in Danish, that works.

Tasks requirements almost always apply to the edition that you read. There are rules for page numbers for ebooks and audiobooks that use the information from print editions


message 4: by Irene (new)

Irene (raenne) Dlmrose wrote: "Welcome, Irene

Words should appear in the title of the edition you read. Some info:
Books in languages other than English may be used. Please provide information on the book and/or title to your E..."


Thank you! :) Looking forward to the challenge


message 5: by btwthesepages (new)

btwthesepages | 71 comments Do I need to verify very book I'm planning to read? If not then which should I verify?
I get that we should verify the Genre based ones but what else?
Sorry, it's my first time so I'm not clear on the rules yet :)


message 6: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (last edited Aug 17, 2014 10:42AM) (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
Arshiya wrote: "Do I need to verify very book I'm planning to read? If not then which should I verify?
I get that we should verify the Genre based ones but what else?
Sorry, it's my first time so I'm not clear on..."


You don't need to verify ANY books. People typically ask for verification for one of two reasons - because they're not sure whether the book works for the task, or because it's a genre task, and they're afraid that the genre may change between the time that they choose the book and the time that they post the task.

If the task is not a "main page genre" task and the book clearly works (for instance, if a specific word must appear in the title, and that exact word is in the title of your book), there's no point to asking the task creator to verify your choice.


message 7: by btwthesepages (new)

btwthesepages | 71 comments Okay. Thanks. That helps a lot :)


message 8: by Morgan (new)

Morgan (faeriesfolly) | 923 comments This may be answered elsewhere, but I haven't found it. Pre-reading of large books over 499 pages is okay as long as more than half of it is read during the challenge.

What about pre-listening? I have an audio version (playaway) of Under the Dome over 1000 pages depending on format and 34.5 hours long.

Follow up: If all the Mass Market Paperback versions are in languages other than the one I'm 'reading' in (English), should I move to Paperback for page count? I don't know how different translations would skew page numbers and I just want to do things correctly.


message 9: by Dlmrose, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Dlmrose | 18433 comments Mod
Morgan wrote: "This may be answered elsewhere, but I haven't found it. Pre-reading of large books over 499 pages is okay as long as more than half of it is read during the challenge.

What about pre-listening? ..."


You may use an audio edition the same way- no more than half and the book must be over 499 pages under the rules.

If the top result is a mass market paperback (or other format as necessary) in a foreign language with page numbers, you may use that edition to establish page numbers


message 10: by Morgan (new)

Morgan (faeriesfolly) | 923 comments Dlmrose wrote: "Morgan wrote: "This may be answered elsewhere, but I haven't found it. Pre-reading of large books over 499 pages is okay as long as more than half of it is read during the challenge.

What about p..."


Thanks! I've never used one of the playaways before so I tried it out for about an hour at work Friday just to see how it would work (if being in my lab coat pocket would stop it or cause it to skip or whatever). I'll keep listening, because I'll only get to 5 more hours at most during work next week and 6 hours is definitely below half of 34.5.


message 11: by Hina (new)

Hina (hinaj) | 677 comments I am not sure if I am posting in the right place...I was planning for the fall and for one of the tasks I wanted to use The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. I have the audio version of this book that I would be listening to, so I was wondering that some version of the paperback its over 500 pages and in some its under. How does this work as to if I could claim a big book ticket for it? Summer challenge is my first time playing and I haven't claimed any big book tickets so I am not sure exactly how it works.


message 12: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 8947 comments if you are using the audio - you use the most popular version of the mmpb as your correlation, so if that is over 500pgs, then you can claim a BB


message 13: by Hina (new)

Hina (hinaj) | 677 comments Dee wrote: "if you are using the audio - you use the most popular version of the mmpb as your correlation, so if that is over 500pgs, then you can claim a BB"


Thanks! So we just go with mass market paperback instead of the versions that just says paperback...


message 14: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 8947 comments normally yes - then if no MMPB, go paperback, failing that hardcover - if you read the rules for big book tickets its spelled out


message 15: by Hina (new)

Hina (hinaj) | 677 comments Dee wrote: "normally yes - then if no MMPB, go paperback, failing that hardcover - if you read the rules for big book tickets its spelled out"

I read it way back in June when Summer challenge started, but today I couldn't find the thread and I knew there was a way the mods looked at which version counted. Thanks for the help!


message 16: by Sue (new)

Sue (suetinge) | 1579 comments I feel like this is something I should know after all these seasons, but I don't. How do I claim an ARC that I have in PDF if I get it read before the book is actually released?


message 17: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 8947 comments get the page count approved if its ebook only, the record needs to be in GR and then tread as normal book


message 18: by Sue (last edited Aug 28, 2014 06:25AM) (new)

Sue (suetinge) | 1579 comments Thanks - there will be a paperback and it's already listed on GR.


message 19: by Becky P (new)

Becky P (zebrafairy) | 200 comments I'm new and I was wondering, if you use a book for one task but it also qualifies for another does that mean that you have completed both tasks? e.g. The girl with the dragon tattoo which counts for both 5.3 (1st in series) and 5.9 (translated into my native language).


message 20: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
Becky wrote: "I'm new and I was wondering, if you use a book for one task but it also qualifies for another does that mean that you have completed both tasks? e.g. The girl with the dragon tattoo which counts fo..."

Sorry, no. A book only can be used for one task.


message 21: by Becky P (new)

Becky P (zebrafairy) | 200 comments Sandy wrote: "Becky wrote: "I'm new and I was wondering, if you use a book for one task but it also qualifies for another does that mean that you have completed both tasks? e.g. The girl with the dragon tattoo w..."

Ok thank you. I wasn't sure


message 22: by Becky P (new)

Becky P (zebrafairy) | 200 comments Hi I have another question. I've been reading through the posts and I was wondering a few things. How many of each task are there? When are all the tasks released? What is the maximum number of points you can get?


message 23: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
Becky wrote: "Hi I have another question. I've been reading through the posts and I was wondering a few things. How many of each task are there? When are all the tasks released? What is the maximum number of poi..."

There are 10 tasks at the 5, 10, 15, 20 point levels. The number of 25 and 30 tasks depends on how many people finish the challenge, so the number will not be determined until after midnight tonight. There will be one 50 pointer at the midpoint of the challenge.

20 and 25 point task creators will be identified after midnight tonight, then the tasks will be released when the task creators get them to the moderators and we go through them, looking for potential problems, etc.

If you go to the Rules section and read through the Rewards of the Challenge, you'll learn more about how the tasks are awarded.


message 24: by Becky P (new)

Becky P (zebrafairy) | 200 comments Sandy wrote: "Becky wrote: "Hi I have another question. I've been reading through the posts and I was wondering a few things. How many of each task are there? When are all the tasks released? What is the maximum..."

OK thank you.


message 25: by Bekka (new)

Bekka (froydis) | 492 comments Hey there! Since there is no place to ask questions on the new rules, I hope its ok to ask it here.

Since there are new rules concerning the validation of children's books, are the page numbers not important anymore? Do children's books for the higher point tasks still have to have 300 pages or more? or just the correct AR information?

thanks!


message 26: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
Bekka wrote: "Hey there! Since there is no place to ask questions on the new rules, I hope its ok to ask it here.

Since there are new rules concerning the validation of children's books, are the page numbers no..."


The current rules are the only ones that apply right now to childrens books. If a book meets the requirements specified in the rules, it can be used for any task, except for those higher point tasks where the task creators have specified that no books with the genre childrens can be used.


message 27: by Lindsey (last edited Sep 01, 2014 06:43PM) (new)

Lindsey (_lindsey_) | 498 comments Hello, mods! Quick question on the new page requirements for comics. There are a lot of books shelved with a main page genre of "Comics," but they are graphic novels and not collections of comic strips. Does the original 100+ page rule still apply even if the "Comics" genre appears on the page? I just wanted to be sure I could read a graphic novel that has "Comics" on the main page but is between 100 and 200 pages and not 200+ like the new rule requires comic collections to be.

Here's an example - this would still be allowed for 5-15 point tasks, right? Good-Bye, Chunky Rice (comics genre on main page, 100-200 pages, graphic novel/not a comic collection)

Whereas this book would NOT be accepted at all for any task in the challenge? MUTTS Sunday Evenings: A Mutts Treasury (comics genre on main page, 100-200 pages, not a graphic novel/is a comic collection)


message 28: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
Lindsey wrote: "Hello, mods! Quick question on the new page requirements for comics. There are a lot of books shelved with a main page genre of "Comics," but they are graphic novels and not collections of comic st..."

You've got it! Listed genres don't work well for this distinction, because cartoon collections get tagged as "graphic novels," even if there's no "novel" to them, while most graphic novels get comics added as a tag.


message 29: by Lindsey (new)

Lindsey (_lindsey_) | 498 comments Great :) Thanks, Sandy!


message 30: by Bekka (new)

Bekka (froydis) | 492 comments Sandy wrote: "Bekka wrote: "Hey there! Since there is no place to ask questions on the new rules, I hope its ok to ask it here.

Since there are new rules concerning the validation of children's books, are the p..."


Thank you, Sandy


message 31: by Deborah (last edited Sep 02, 2014 08:04PM) (new)

Deborah | 1667 comments If I'm reading the new terms on books with the Genre Children's correctly James Potter and the Curse of the Gate Keeper, e-book with around 459 pages and approved previously in e-verification #851 on the master list, cannot be used for any task since it isn't found on either http://www.arbookfind.com/default.aspx or http://www.arbookfind.co.uk/default.aspx, correct?


message 32: by Susan A (new)

Susan A | 1666 comments It can be used in this task:

5.10 - Independent Study

Read a book of your choice. Note: Books with the genre "children" or "kids" NOT found in AR Bookfinder MAY be used for this task.


message 33: by Deborah (new)

Deborah | 1667 comments Cheers. Thanks much!


message 34: by Caitlin (new)

Caitlin Hello, I'm in need of some very basic technical help here. For the tasks that require I post a picture of the book I've read, HOW do I do that?
Thank you. I know there are technically "no stupid questions, but this one feels a little on the stupid side." I appreciate your help.


message 35: by Lindsey (last edited Sep 03, 2014 03:22PM) (new)

Lindsey (_lindsey_) | 498 comments When you are typing in the text box to make a post, there is a link that says "add book/author" to the upper right. When you click that link, a pop-up will open. At the very bottom of that pop-up, there is an option for link or cover. Select "cover." Search for you book, and click the "Add" button next to it. Hope that helps.


message 36: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (last edited Sep 03, 2014 03:22PM) (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
Caitlin wrote: "Hello, I'm in need of some very basic technical help here. For the tasks that require I post a picture of the book I've read, HOW do I do that?
Thank you. I know there are technically "no stupid qu..."


Above the comment box, there's a link for "add book/author." After you search through that link, and pull up the book you want, look down - at the bottom, there's a choice to post the link or the cover.


message 37: by Lindsey (last edited Sep 03, 2014 03:24PM) (new)

Lindsey (_lindsey_) | 498 comments This might be a helpful folder to look through for technical help. https://www.goodreads.com/topic/group...


message 38: by Caitlin (new)

Caitlin thank you both so much!


message 39: by Tara (new)

Tara | 391 comments I thought I had seen before, but now I can't find....where is the list of total points for each player (or is there one)? I've seen the Reader Board of who is participating, but is there a thread that shows the total points per reader (other than the individual points each person posts when completing a task).

Thanks in advance;


message 40: by Susan A (last edited Sep 03, 2014 05:32PM) (new)

Susan A | 1666 comments I think this is what you mean

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

Under the Fall Challenge heading

Readerboard

The other list is Readerboard Names, under the Wlecome section


message 41: by Tara (new)

Tara | 391 comments Susan A wrote: "I think this is what you mean

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

Under the Fall Challenge heading

Readerboard

The other list is Readerboard Names, under the Wlecome section"


Yes thank you!


message 42: by Pia (new)

Pia Hi! I'm new here and I've been reading all the rules, posts, tasks, etc. but I do have some questions.
First one is that we have 3 group reads, but they are also part of the challenges, right?
Do we have to read those books or can we select a different one?
I ask because I read A is for Alibi a long time ago.
Thanks and happy reading


message 43: by Susan A (last edited Sep 04, 2014 09:54AM) (new)

Susan A | 1666 comments Group Read is task 20.10

To complete this task you must read one of the three group read and make a post in its discission thread.

When you make your completion post for this task, link to your post or if you don't know how give the post number for the moderators to find it.

Group Read task info in this post:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...

Welcome to the SRC Pia! Good luck


message 44: by ♞ Pat (new)

♞ Pat Gent | 786 comments Don't post until you've completed the entire task. :-)


message 45: by Reina (new)

Reina (Reinydawn) If I'm reading a book that is both a Good Read Author and a Big Book, do I get tickets for both or do I only get 1 ticket per book?


message 46: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
Reina wrote: "If I'm reading a book that is both a Good Read Author and a Big Book, do I get tickets for both or do I only get 1 ticket per book?"

you can get both for a book.


message 47: by LouLouReads (new)

LouLouReads | 221 comments If I am reading a children's book in a language other than English, how do I verify it? Is that possible? Even very famous children's books, such as Die umendliche Geschichte/The Neverending Story don't seem to be on AR Finder in their original languages--do I use the English translation?


message 48: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
LouLouReads wrote: "If I am reading a children's book in a language other than English, how do I verify it? Is that possible? Even very famous children's books, such as Die umendliche Geschichte/The Neverending Story ..."

yes, that would be a good option.


message 49: by [deleted user] (new)

I have two questions.

1. If you've started a book before September 1, but are not even half-way through, can you still count it? Can you start from the beginning, re-read it and count it?

2. Can you re-read a book at all to count it towards the tasks?


message 50: by Sandy, Moderator Emeritus (last edited Sep 04, 2014 06:19AM) (new)

Sandy | 16893 comments Mod
Navarra wrote: "I have two questions.

1. If you've started a book before September 1, but are not even half-way through, can you still count it? Can you start from the beginning, re-read it and count it?

2. C..."


If the book you started before 9/1 is at least 500 pages, you can use it if you've read less than half. If it's shorter, you can certainly start back at the beginning.

re-reads are allowed unless a task prohibits them.


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