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The Bear and the Nightingale
Bear & Nightingale - Jan 2019
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I just finished part 1 tonight. I agree, Amanda, it was a lot of set up, but I'm really enjoying it. I like the fairytale feel of it with the hints of magic happening. I also love the Russian setting. I was nervous about all the names, but even though I probably am butchering pronunciation in my mind, I am still keeping everyone straight. I feel like things are really going to pick up in Part 2.
The one thing that is a bit strange for me is the little demon creatures. I picture them as little garden gnome type characters, which is pretty harmless, but the word demon has such negative spiritual connotations to me that it's hard to get into that part of it.
I'm finding the writing to be very readable and even the pacing isn't as slow to me as other books I've read. I'm eager to keep going.
The one thing that is a bit strange for me is the little demon creatures. I picture them as little garden gnome type characters, which is pretty harmless, but the word demon has such negative spiritual connotations to me that it's hard to get into that part of it.
I'm finding the writing to be very readable and even the pacing isn't as slow to me as other books I've read. I'm eager to keep going.


I'm anxious to read on and find out what is in store for Vasya. I haven't been able to read for the past couple nights but hope to get back to it tomorrow.


I just loved the writing style, it is like fairy tale yet it is not over flowery. The characters are also very well defined which is a plus before all the magical things start to happen. I really liked Vanya and her dad, and Sasha in this part.
As for the magical elements, I liked how they are integrated in the story, I am especially intrigued about the necklace :)


Theresa wrote: "when I read this I found the section in the back really helped me with all the Russian words and names."
Yeah, I was looking up enough words that ended up putting a tab so I could find the glossary quicker! haha.
Yeah, I was looking up enough words that ended up putting a tab so I could find the glossary quicker! haha.


I agree about imagining the “demons” as Dobby - more like elves than an actual devil. I think the author is saying demons for a variety of reasons: Likely this old fairy tale called them demons or devils; also, to put Frost, the Winter Demon, in a similar category, I guess. Also, in looking at back cover they call them spirits, which isn’t nearly as a disturbing name; however, that brings to mind an entirely looking critter, right? I think ( though I may be wrong) many of us envision the characters as we read. I’d rather picture Dobby,a garden gnome, or even Phil from Disney’s Hercules. Wasn’t he considered a demon?
Anyway, again so enjoying this book. Perfect for our dark, wet winters outside of Portland, Oregon. Sorry writing so much but first time actually posting in your Book and Jams Read-along.



I love the Russian/wintry setting. I've read a bunch of books set in Russia and this one is just as wonderful as far as scene setting goes. I am loving Vasya as well. I'm not a big fantasy reader but fantasy works for me when most of the setting and situations are 'normal' with a little fantasy sprinkled in which is how this one is feeling so I'm ok with the little creatures, lol.

I’m reading on my kindle and didn’t even know there was a section in the back. I’m going to have to look for it. I’ve been googling a lot. Lol
I imagined the demons as more like the goblins in Harry Potter, harmless if you leave them alone.
I’m really enjoying this so far. I’m not a big fantasy person, but I’m loving the fairytale aspect of this story. I’m eager to see where it goes from here.


Thank you guys for saying there is a glossary at the back, I checked it and amazed at how good it explained.
The story does not do anything for me yet, but I am looking forward to see how Arden will use the historical events the story is set in. It is actually the great chapter of Russian history, and I guess it is not known for the majority of readers, so I am quite excited that more people will know about it. Little spoiler: we should expect great things from prince Dimitrii))), but at this point I do not know where the author will take us in this journey.
Another thing with the writing is the choice of words: Krista mentioned "Demons", which are more like spirits or even keepers of certain areas of live like home, stables, fields and they possess limited powers if any, so calling them demons is a bit exaggerating.
Another thing is with the word "beast", I stumble over it every time. One example:
The keen dawn reddened their faces; their beasts stamped and snored clouds of steam p.40
Why name cattle and horses beasts, as if they are part of wild nature. Even at that time horses and cows were horses and cows. Every time I am reading as: ohh, there is danger! a beast is approaching! and then it turned out that she is talking about a horse.
I am hoping to see some heavy stuff magic later on, otherwise it might be disappointing for me as some domovoi without real actual magic do not excite me at all.

I am intrigued by Anna and Vasya's differing reactions to seeing the household spirits. Anna has obviously been led to believe that seeing them means that she is insane so she sees them as demons. Vasya, maybe because of the stories her nurse tells, sees them as helpers and as a normal part of life. I am interested to see if one or both of them changes their point of view on the spirits because of the influence of the other.
I know very little of Russian folklore so I am enjoying learning some about that as well.
How did you like this first part? Did you connect right away with the writing or did it take a bit to get into it? Does it seem to be more character or plot driven so far? What do you think of the fairytale aspects of the book? Any other thoughts for this beginning section?