The History Book Club discussion

This will be the thread for THE FEDERALIST PAPERS syllabus:



I actually however purchased the Signet Classic which includes a copy of all of The Federalist Papers, a copy of the Constitution with cross references, a brief precis of each essay, an index of ideas, and copies of the Declaration of Independence and the Articles of Confederation. I particularly like the way this is put together and cross referenced. The print size could have been a little bit bigger in the paperback. The Introduction and a great set of notes is done by Charles R. Kesler and this edition was edited by Clinton Rossiter.

This is what that edition looks like. There is no need to acquire an edition to participate because all of the 85 Federalist papers are on line and I have posted various urls. I like to mark up my copies so I usually purchase the book.

by Alexander Hamilton

FEDERALIST PAPERS SYLLABUS - ONE PAPER PER WEEK

This will give everyone an opportunity to participate. We will discuss THE FEDERALIST PAPERS at a slow pace with one paper being covered each week.
The first grouping of The Federalist Papers includes the first fourteen as follows:

The Importance of the Union (1-14)
Signet Edition page numbers:

FEDERALIST No. 1 General Introduction Alexander (Hamilton)
October 19 - October 25 (page 27)

FEDERALIST No. 2 Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence (John Jay)
October 26 - November 1 (page 31)

FEDERALIST No. 3 Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence (con't) (John Jay)
November 2 - November 8 (page 36)

FEDERALIST No. 4 Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence (con't) (John Jay)
November 9 - November 15 (page 40)

FEDERALIST No. 5 Concerning Dangers From Foreign Force and Influence (con't) (John Jay)
November 16 - November 22 (page 44)

FEDERALIST No. 6 Concerning Dangers from Dissensions Between the States (Alexander Hamilton)
November 23 - November 29 (page 48)

FEDERALIST No. 7 Concerning Dangers from Dissensions Between the States (con't) (Alexander Hamilton)
November 30 - December 6 (page 54)

FEDERALIST No. 8 The Consequences of Hostilities Between the States (Alexander Hamilton)
December 7 - December 13 (page 60)

FEDERALIST No. 9 The Union as a Safeguard Against Domestic Faction and Insurrection (Alexander Hamilton)
December 14 - December 20 (page 66)

FEDERALIST No. 10 The Union as a Safeguard Against Domestic Faction and Insurrection (con't) (James Madison)
December 21 - December 28 (page 71)

FEDERALIST No. 11 The Utility of the Union in Respect to Commercial Relations and a Navy (Alexander Hamilton)
December 29 - January 3, 2010 (page 79)

FEDERALIST No. 12 The Utility of the Union In Respect to Revenue (Alexander Hamilton)
January 4 - January 10, 2010 (page 86)

FEDERALIST No. 13 Advantage of the Union in Respect to Economy in Government (Alexander Hamilton)
January 11 - January 17, 2010 (page 92)

FEDERALIST No. 14 Objections to the Proposed Constitution From Extent of Territory Answered (James Madison)
January 18 - January 24, 2010 (page 94)

We also completed FEDERALIST No. 15 and FEDERALIST No. 16 in this batch.

No. 15 The Insufficiency of the Present Confederation to Preserve the Union HAMILTON

No. 16 The Insufficiency of the Present Confederation to Preserve the Union (cont'd) HAMILTON

The edition that you own is pictured at the bottom of post #1, is that correct? That copy is very common, and I have seen it numerous times at local used book stores.

I own a few copies of the federalist papers, but will look into grabbing the copy you have as well since it can be had for a dollar or so. Recently, I came across the leather bound Easton Press version which is without any extra study guides, but is a very hansom piece of workmanship, indeed.

Yes, that is the signet one; I wish that I had ordered it in hardcopy because the print is not sized as big as I like; but the edition itself has a lot of pluses; I have the paperback; maybe if you have a used book store handy you might be able to pick up the original.

Like I said in my posts, you can even read it on line without any expense whatsoever; but I have to mark up as I read so I can remember what I want to bring up in moderation or things that I want to just recall or highlight. If you have a Kindle or a Sony reader and download it; you can do the same.

Yes, I think the Signet is the most common one; but in fact I did like the features. I especially liked the constitution with the page cross references to TFP.

Easton Press has some great books and the print would have been better for me. That is why I pointed it out as a potential problem for some with the size of the print; in fact, the book store was out of the edition; I ordered it and had not seen the size of the print up close. It is OK with my reading glasses.

Bentley wrote: "FEDERALIST PAPERS SYLLABUS - ONE PAPER PER WEEK

This will give everyone an opportunity to participate. We will discuss THE FEDERALIST PAPERS at a slow pace with one paper being covered each week...."

Bentley,

Is it too late to join this discussion? If not, how do I access the syllabus?

Thanks,

Don

Dhenning1950 wrote: "Is it too late to join this discussion? If not, how do I access the syllabus?"

Welcome, Dhenning1950. No, you are not too late... We are glad to have you join our discussion. Bentley is currently on vacation, but he has been able to connect and keep up with most discussions while he is away. Hopefully we all can continue this discussion, obviously looking forward to his return.

We are doing one essay each week, and the syllabus can be found within message #2 of this thread above. This coming week, we will be discussing Federalist #3. We all look forward to your participation.

Thank you so much Joe for helping Dhenning. And Joe is right..you have plenty of time...it will take us 85 weeks to get through all of the essays. We are only doing one a week (they run about three pages apiece - you can read them or even listen to them on audio) and so far I have found them very worthwhile. This week starting tomorrow we will also be talking about Federalist Paper #3. Reading what we have covered and even FP 3 would only run about 9 pages total. So you can catch up easily.

Bentley

Joe wrote: "Dhenning1950 wrote: "Is it too late to join this discussion? If not, how do I access the syllabus?"

Welcome, Dhenning1950. No, you are not too late... We are glad to have you join our discussion. ..."

Thanks for the help Joe.

FEDERALIST PAPERS SYLLABUS - ONE PAPER PER WEEK - SECOND BATCH

This will give everyone an opportunity to participate. We will discuss THE FEDERALIST PAPERS at a slow pace with one paper being covered each week.

The second grouping of The Federalist Papers includes the next fifteen papers (17 thought 31) as follows:

FEDERALIST No. 17 The Insufficiency of the Present Confederation to Preserve the Union - Cont'd (Hamilton)
January 24, 2011 - January 30 (page 113)

FEDERALIST No. 18 The Insufficiency of the Present Confederation to Preserve the Union - Cont'd (Madison with Hamilton)
January 31, 2011 - February 6 (page 118)

FEDERALIST No. 19 The Insufficiency of the Present Confederation to Preserve the Union - Cont'd (Madison with Hamilton)
February 7, 2011 - February 13 (page 124)

FEDERALIST No. 20 The Insufficiency of the Present Confederation to Preserve the Union - Cont'd (Madison with Hamilton)
February 14, 2011 - February 20 (page 129)

FEDERALIST No. 21 Other Defects of the Present Confederation (Hamilton)
February 21, 2011 - February 27 (page 134)

FEDERALIST No. 22 Other Defects of the Present Confederation Cont'd (Hamilton)
February 28, 2011 - March 6 (page 139)

FEDERALIST No. 23 The Necessity of a Government as Energetic as the One Proposed to the Preservation of the Union (Hamilton)
March 7, 2011 - March 13 (page 148)

FEDERALIST No. 24 The Powers Necessary to the Common Defense Further Considered (Hamilton)
March 14, 2011 - March 20 (page 153)

FEDERALIST No. 25 The Powers Necessary to the Common Defense Further Considered Cont'd (Hamilton)
March 21, 2011 - March 27 (page 158)

FEDERALIST No. 26 The Idea of Restraining the Legislative Authority in Regard to the Common Defence Considered (Hamilton)
March 28, 2011 - April 3 (page 163)

FEDERALIST No. 27 The Idea of Restraining the Legislative Authority in Regard to the Common Defence Considered Cont'd (Hamilton)
April 4, 2011 - April 10 (page 170)

FEDERALIST No. 28 The Idea of Restraining the Legislative Authority in Regard to the Common Defence Considered Cont'd (Hamilton)
April 11, 2011 - April 17 (page 173)

FEDERALIST No. 29 Concerning the Militia (Hamilton)
April 18, 2011 - April 24 (page 178)

FEDERALIST No. 30 Concerning the General Power of Taxation (Hamilton)
April 25, 2011 - May 1 (page 183)

FEDERALIST No. 31 Concerning the General Power of Taxation (Hamilton)
May 2, 2011 - May 8 (page 189)

FEDERALIST PAPERS SYLLABUS - ONE PAPER PER WEEK - THIRD BATCH

For those of you who would like to read The Federalist Papers and never got the opportunity to do it; here is your chance.

During the months of November, December (2011), and January (2012)- the HBC will give the group members the opportunity to read or reread papers 1 - 31 and discuss any or all once again.

There are threads already set up for each paper from 1 - 31 and they are already open for posting because we covered those originally in two batches.

We will continue our new quest in February (beginning on February 6th) -- in terms of the next batch of 15 papers which we have not yet discussed.

So remember all group members can post away on any of the first 31 papers starting today. The papers are very short - two or three pages each so they are easy to fit in and comment upon if you are trying to fit this reading into an already busy schedule.

This will give everyone an opportunity to participate at their own pace and give folks an opportunity to catch up prior to February 6, 2012 when we start moving through the third segment of papers.

As we have done before, we will continue to discuss THE FEDERALIST PAPERS at a slow pace with one paper being covered each week.

The third grouping of The Federalist Papers includes the next fifteen papers (32 though 46) as follows:

FEDERALIST No. 32 Concerning the General Power of Taxation - Cont'd (Hamilton)
February 6, 2012 - February 12 (page 193)

FEDERALIST No. 33 Concerning the General Power of Taxation - Cont'd (Hamilton)
February 13, 2012 - February 19 (page 197)

FEDERALIST No. 34 Concerning the General Power of Taxation - Cont'd (Hamilton)
February 20, 2012 - February 26 (page 201)

FEDERALIST No. 35 Concerning the General Power of Taxation - Cont'd (Hamilton)
February 27, 2012 - March 4 (page 207)

FEDERALIST No. 36 Concerning the General Power of Taxation - Cont'd (Hamilton)
March 5, 2012 - March 11 (page 213)

FEDERALIST No. 37 Concerning the Difficulties of the Convention in Devising a Proper Form of Government (Madison)
March 12, 2012 - March 18 (page 220)

FEDERALIST No. 38 Concerning the Difficulties of the Convention in Devising a Proper Form of Government And the Incoherence of the Objections to the New Plan Exposed (Madison)
March 19, 2012 - March 25 (page 227)

FEDERALIST No. 39 The Conformity of the Plan to Republican Principles (Madison)
March 26, 2012 - April 1 (page 236)

FEDERALIST No. 40 The Powers of the Convention to Form A Mixed Government Examined and Sustained (Madison)
April 2, 2012 - April 8 (page 243)

FEDERALIST No. 41 General View of the Powers Conferred By the Constitution (Madison)
April 9, 2012 - April 15 (page 251)

FEDERALIST No. 42 The Powers Conferred by the Constitution Further Considered (Madison)
April 16, 2012 - April 22 (page 260)

FEDERALIST No. 43 The Powers Conferred by the Constitution Further Considered (Madison) (cont'd)
April 23, 2012 - April 29 (page 268)

FEDERALIST No. 44 Restrictions on the Authority of the Several States (Madison)
April 30, 2012 - May 6 (page 277)

FEDERALIST No. 45 The Alleged Danger From the Powers of the Union to the State Governments Considered (Madison)
May 7, 2012 - May 13 (page 285)

FEDERALIST No. 46 The Influence of the State and Federal Governments Compared (Madison)
May 14, 2011 - May 20 (page 290)

I assume based on these posts that this book has already been read. The home page of the book group states that you will be reading The Federalist Papers starting in January of 2012. Are you starting it again or is that a miss print? Just trying to figure out what books are being read by the group.

No, check the previous post for the syllabus for the next batch of the Federalist Papers - right now folks should be catching though 31. We will start on paper 32 on February 6th. Just go to the pre-existing threads for 1 - 31 and read each paper and comment on your impressions of each paper quoting or citing your favorite segments.

Thank you as I looked further through the book club page I saw what the schedule was.

You are welcome Maegan; between segments we always give catch up time before we start the new batch.