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Iron Gold (Red Rising #4) > Part I: Wind (Ch 12 - 21)

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*❆ Kαɾҽɳ ❆* | 3040 comments Mod
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Darcey | 1846 comments Mod
I love these books. Karen, you know how much I love them! But I seriously don’t know if I can handle this book haha, it’s actually traumatising me, I’m practically depressed over it already. I’m three seconds away from going on strike if my children don’t get some damn happiness!! And it’s not looking like they’ll get happiness anytime soon…
Karen, you know how much I love Darrow, and Yegi, for some comparison, I love Darrow about 100x more than I love Kal - and you know I love our precious Kaladin! And my boy Darrow… he just hasn’t been winning lately - especially in that last chapter - and oml it’s killing me!😭😭😭


Darcey | 1846 comments Mod
Ok time for some lucid thoughts:

Ephraim:
- his POV is definitely interesting and I’m intrigued to see where his character goes, I didn’t realise that Tripp was his love, but that’s so cute (and so sad). It was nice to see Holiday again, though I’m guessing she won’t be a major character in this trilogy, given she’s left the main squad of Howlers (which is totally fair).
- I wonder what this big heist is… these important Pinks definitely seem interesting, so I wonder what they hired Ephraim to steal? Surely it’ll be something we’ve heard of. Or someone hehe…

Lyria:
- poor girl, I feel so bad for her, she’s lost so much in recent years! I love Kavax so much though, I’ve missed him, he and Sophocles are so cute haha. The jellybean idea was genius… I can’t wait to see what happens next with Kavax and Lyria and her niece!
- I also really want to see where Kavax stands with the whole Darrow situation, whether he still supports Darrow or not.

Then the big one… Darrow:
- My poor, poor boy… what will happen to him now? His whole world is falling apart, and the council is against him, and even Mustang turned against him. I honestly stand with Mustang, I think he would have been ok if he stayed there, but I can absolutely understand Darrow, because damn, the PTSD that boy must have from the Jackal… I don’t blame him for trying to run. But oh god, now he’s killed that Obsidian… I’m so worried for him and the dark path he’s going down. What will happen to him? And Sevro?
- also his scene with Pax was so cute, I wish they got more time together, and it breaks my heart that Pax saw all of that. I wish that whole family could just be happy… same for Sevro’s family.
- oh and I love Victra haha, her relationship with Darrow is questionably close hahaha but I love it. I wonder what will happen to her now… I hope she and Mustang are able to band together.

Ahh overall I’m just so worried for Darrow, and the rest of that damn galaxy! And I know people will turn against Darrow now, which will absolutely kill me. It will wholeass cut my soul. Damn I’m attached to these characters… this trilogy is going to destroy me, I just know it😅. I’m so scared!


message 4: by Yeg (last edited Sep 12, 2021 12:19PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Yeg Okay this time i'm doing some quote gush update if you know what i mean:

“What are your orders, bossman?” Min-Min asks. “You hiccup and the whole Seventh will storm the Senate and crucify any Pixie who looks at you funny.”

~haha this whole session was so hilarius and everyone's bantering was so damn cool i laughed hard. You had a point min min🙄

What help is the Reaper in a cage?” he asks, nodding up to the sky. “We need you in the wild.”

~whoever this lad was which i'm not remembering rn is so damn right.if our reaper doesn't do anything then who will seriously?? He is NOT fucking meant to be in prison. Oh and darce, i'm having deja vù here about kal 😑 remember that scene where they put him in cell for no literal reason???i'm observing the same here. Sooo freaking unfair. And to answer your statment, yes i can see how much you love him. i also stated and reasoned how much in love i am with him as well so darrow baby we got your back.

No. Dancer is a good man. He’s doing what he thinks is right with the tools he has,” I say. “It’s our turn to do the same.”

~okay this shit is really infiturating. I know dancer's real motive is good but darrow is also having his way and that makes their path go seprately.

Victra looks up at me with a grand smile. “Darling, I say we all attend the peace talks. Make it a bit of a party. And once that sanctimonious prick Dancer is put in a cell, we give the Ash Lord our diplomatic reply and send him the head of Julia au Bellona back in a gorydamn box, mouth stuffed with grapes. Or her eyes stripped out and replaced with snake heads. Or Dancer’s testicles, whichever you find more thematically appropriate. We can vote! ’Tis a demokracy, after all.”

~love your way demokracy victra😂😂 i mean this is called a greedy way to go on battle with bad guys. And speaking of victra, also you mentioned darce, i don't remember from last book but was victra and darrow a thing?? Cause that kiss was 😅 something. It's complicated i know.

I know him. I will not break the Republic. And I will not be a prisoner. Which is why I am leaving this moon tonight.” They look to each other in confusion. “The question is: who’s coming with me?” Sevro steps forward to stand at my side even as the rest of them look at me blankly.

~ I WANT A FRIEND LIKE SEVRO BYE! He is such a loyal person and knowing darrow needs this type if person like him makes me happy to see he already has one .also so sad that victra asked darrow to tell sevro to stay but we all know he ain't

I sit back on my heels watching him, falling in love with my son all over again. His mind is more curious than mine. More delighted by the nuances of knowledge. An overwhelming desire to protect him rises up in me. If only he could hold this joy for the rest of his life. I wonder if my father thought the same of me before his cause swallowed him up.

“You’re leaving again,” he says. “Aren’t you?”
“Yes. I wanted to say goodbye.”
He’s silent for a long moment. “I don’t want you to go.”
“I don’t want to go either. But I have to.”
“Why?”


~😢😢😢😢 is crying allowed?? Cause i'm this close to lose it. Ahhh is wanting to see darrow settling with his wife and sone alot??? IS IT A LOT TO ASK MR BROWN ??


message 5: by Yeg (last edited Sep 12, 2021 12:16PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Yeg “What is the point of this—marriage—if there’s no faith between us?” she asks. “No trust? I know you love me. I know you love our son. But love isn’t enough. You can’t hide things from me just because I’ll disagree with you. This war isn’t your burden to bear alone

~😣😣😭😭 No Nooooo of all the people you can't do this to him specially now. I know mustang i get it but please just let him do his way. Don't let him go like that. Specially when he is so hurt and has PTSD and thinks like this in this part

“You saw what happened in the Senate, Victra. I’m not the Rising any longer. It’s evolved past me. I am obsolete. And that’s a good thing. Virginia is more important than I am. Hell, Dancer is more important than I am. My purpose is singular—to remove the threats to the Republic. The Ash Lord is irreplaceable. If I kill him, then the Saud and Carthii and the last great houses will destroy each other in the power vacuum.” “Atalantia will still be alive.” “Atalantia is not her father,” I say. “She’s more Aja than her father. A soldier. Not a general.” I place four ion detonators in the bag. “You always did want to be a martyr. Didn’t you?” “What I want doesn’t matter,” I say curtly. “This is about responsibility. The Republic can’t survive with war always snapping at its heels. This division is because I took too long. I told them to trust me with the war. And I haven’t won it yet. But I can, and I will.”

You can't think about yourself like that . You are a hero. A savior. A commander. A surviver.😢😢 i won't have this nonesense

~sorry i only gushed about two darrow's chapter but i'm also intrigued about lyra and others as well. Want to see what this heist ephariam is having in future.i have no clue. And also curious about the seraphina thing. I'm alittle confused about them because i can't make the connection between tgis relationship so i might sleep on this one for alittle bit .


Darcey | 1846 comments Mod
@Yegi

if our reaper doesn't do anything then who will seriously?? He is NOT fucking meant to be in prison. Oh and darce, i'm having deja vù here about kal 😑 remember that scene where they put him in cell for no literal reason???

EXACTLY and yes so true Yegi haha, it's definitely similar to when the freaking king stuck our boy kal in jail!! the absolute disrespect!! both our boys deserve better, i will fight anyone that says otherwise👊.

speaking of victra, also you mentioned darce, i don't remember from last book but was victra and darrow a thing?? Cause that kiss was 😅 something. It's complicated i know.

yeah i love Victra😂😂 but nope they're not a thing, victra told darrow that she would happily be a thing with him and not-so-subtly hinted that was attracted to him multiple times, but he shut her down and she moved onto sevro after a little while. their relationship is just like that😂 that's just victra for you! she's been really devoted to darrow since he saved her from the jackal.

I WANT A FRIEND LIKE SEVRO BYE!

SAMEEE I LOVE SEVRO AND HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH DARROW IS GOALS.

😢😢😢😢 is crying allowed?? Cause i'm this close to lose it. Ahhh is wanting to see darrow settling with his wife and sone alot??? IS IT A LOT TO ASK MR BROWN ??

I KNOW😭😭 please Pierce Brown, all i want for these characters is a cute family situation! why won't you give it to us😭

No Nooooo of all the people you can't do this to him specially now. I know mustang i get it but please just let him do his way. Don't let him go like that. Specially when he is so hurt and has PTSD and thinks like this in this part.

i know😭 please Mustang, he needs you!! and he's just traumatised... he can't handle cages after the jackal, which is totally fair... why mustang why😭.

And also curious about the seraphina thing.

seraphina... seraphina... nope, no idea what you're talking about, i have no idea who seraphina is😂 but yep it'll definitely be interesting to see how the other characters interact with darrow! damn, i wonder who i've forgotten haha, was seraphina important?


*❆ Kαɾҽɳ ❆* | 3040 comments Mod
Ch 12 Lyria - Slingblades
- [ ] Oh my goodness that was a heart breaking chapter, it was so sad to see them kiss their grandfather/father goodbye !
- [ ] I hope they find the rest of them soon

Ch 13 Lyria - First the screams
- [ ] Oh my gosh, why in the world would she leave Liam alone! He’s just a kid and she expects him to stay put without anyone taking him!!! Arghhh she shouldn’t have left him alone! I really hope he is okay and he’s still there

Ch 14 Ephraim - Anniversary
- [ ] Okay what?? Since when is Holiday a Howler again?? Man I don’t remember anything now. She betrayed Servo, did they make up and I didn’t realise??
- [ ] Hmmm interesting he was part of the Rising but now isn’t because Mustang pardoned some Golds
- [ ] Makes sense why he’s a mercenary now
- [ ] Ooooh him and Trigg were a thing, damn 10 long years and he still feels the pain, poor thing

Ch 15 Lysander - From the Depths
- [ ] Oh my gosh did Cassius change his face?? They can do that? Wow that’s freaky indeed
- [ ] I wonder if he can be changed back?

Ch 16 Darrow - The Den
- [ ] Well, they have lost many powerful allies now
- [ ] But what will Sefi do now? What does she want to do now that she is focusing on her people? Is she going to try and save everyone that she can on her own? I’m worried about her now. To me she doesn’t seem the most loyal, yes she’s been with them for 10 years but I always had a doubts with her
- [ ] And yeah I kinda expected Holiday to back out, she’s another one that I question their loyalty

Ch 17 Lyria - Debt
- [ ] Awwww I missed Sophocles! Such a cutie fox! And what a smart man Kavax is! Love it!
- [ ] I hope Lyria and Liam can have a moment to forget their grieve. Those poor children and their mother

Ch 18 Ephraim - The Duke of Hands
- [ ] Oh my goodness I haven’t been this terrified in a long time, this Duke of Hands is terrifying!
- [ ] Wow, so much effort to see if he was the right one for the job, I wonder what will he steal? Something from the Sovereign’s, Darrow’s
- [ ] I wonder if what the Duke of Hands said about the other royals are true though? Do they really cut limbs off??

Ch 19 Ephraim - Pernod
- [ ] Okay I need to know what they are stealing!

Ch 20 Lysander - Dragons
- [ ] Okay so they have been captured by the children of Romulus, enemies to his grandmother. I wonder are they still in line with Darrow? Or are they on their own?
- [ ] Plus if they find out about Lysander I’m sure he will be dead in seconds

Ch 21 Darrow - There will be violence
- [ ] What in the world was that about?! Why did he kill Wulfgar!!! Is he insane!
- [ ] Damnit this has all gone so wrong!!


message 8: by *❆ Kαɾҽɳ ❆* (last edited Sep 24, 2021 09:23PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

*❆ Kαɾҽɳ ❆* | 3040 comments Mod
Darce wrote:
I love these books. Karen, you know how much I love them! But I seriously don’t know if I can handle this book haha, it’s actually traumatising me, I’m practically depressed over it already. I’m three seconds away from going on strike if my children don’t get some damn happiness!! And it’s not looking like they’ll get happiness anytime soon…

ARGHH You and me both Girl! I love them but yes I am so nauseous just thinking about what they are going to do with my baby Darrow!!!! I am so traumatised by all of this as well and it is breaking my soul!!

I wonder what this big heist is… these important Pinks definitely seem interesting, so I wonder what they hired Ephraim to steal? Surely it’ll be something we’ve heard of. Or someone hehe…

Yep I am thinking it is something super important that we know of but yeah perhaps it is a someone too haha

I also really want to see where Kavax stands with the whole Darrow situation, whether he still supports Darrow or not

Hmm yes so true, I wonder what he would do now that Darrow has killed Wulfgar :( I hope he still has some support!

My poor, poor boy… what will happen to him now? His whole world is falling apart, and the council is against him, and even Mustang turned against him. I honestly stand with Mustang, I think he would have been ok if he stayed there, but I can absolutely understand Darrow, because damn, the PTSD that boy must have from the Jackal… I don’t blame him for trying to run. But oh god, now he’s killed that Obsidian… I’m so worried for him and the dark path he’s going down. What will happen to him? And Sevro?

Arggghhh I know!!! Is it too much to ask for Darrow and Mustang and Servo and their whole families to live happily and peacefully!!! Damnit I really hope they are all going to be okay by the end of this trilogy!!
I am so worried for Servo more now cause that promise Victra made Darrow take sounds like foreshadowing that Servo isnt going to make it backkkk!!!!! I amm so worried and I hate Pierce now for making me doubt! Argh please let them all be okay!
But yes back to your thoughts, I get why Mustang wants to keep him there but yes she should also understand him especially with his PTSD!

Damn I’m attached to these characters… this trilogy is going to destroy me, I just know it😅. I’m so scared!

You and me both! I am terrified to continue on!

seraphina... seraphina... nope, no idea what you're talking about, i have no idea who seraphina is😂 but yep it'll definitely be interesting to see how the other characters interact with darrow! damn, i wonder who i've forgotten haha, was seraphina important?

You probably already figured this out since you've read on but just putting my input, she's the Peerless Scarred Gold Lysander rescued :)


*❆ Kαɾҽɳ ❆* | 3040 comments Mod
Yeganeh wrote:
I WANT A FRIEND LIKE SEVRO BYE! He is such a loyal person and knowing darrow needs this type if person like him makes me happy to see he already has one .also so sad that victra asked darrow to tell sevro to stay but we all know he ain't

SAME!!!! WE ALL NEED A CRAZY AND LOYAL BASTARD LIKE SERVO!!!! But yes Servo is just perfect for Darrow right now, especially with everyone, including his wife against him. He will need him more than ever

😢😢😢😢 is crying allowed?? Cause i'm this close to lose it. Ahhh is wanting to see darrow settling with his wife and sone alot??? IS IT A LOT TO ASK MR BROWN ??

I fear we will be crying a lot throughout this book, not to mention this trilogy :(((((( I just bloodydamn hope they all survive by the end of it!

😣😣😭😭 No Nooooo of all the people you can't do this to him specially now. I know mustang i get it but please just let him do his way. Don't let him go like that. Specially when he is so hurt and has PTSD and thinks like this in this part

Argh I know! This part killed me as well!!!! I am so worried what will happen when he returns, will he have a family to go back to!


message 10: by Darcey (last edited Sep 26, 2021 01:35AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Darcey | 1846 comments Mod
Since when is Holiday a Howler again?? Man I don’t remember anything now. She betrayed Servo, did they make up and I didn’t realise??

remember the entire disgusting scene a couple of books ago, where holiday and darrow became howlers? and they had to eat bugs and everything?? and there was a whole load of drinking haha? holiday is the grey who was trigg's sister, remember.
i honestly don't remember the betrayal... hmm.

Arggghhh I know!!! Is it too much to ask for Darrow and Mustang and Servo and their whole families to live happily and peacefully!!! Damnit I really hope they are all going to be okay by the end of this trilogy!!

i know😭 i hope the same!


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