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message 1: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
Our Classics in Translation Topic is getting a new name and a new method of choosing our monthly reads.


message 2: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
The title will now be Authors from Around the World to reflect the fact that our members who don't have English as a first language often read books translated from English into their language.
That means we will be reading some English language books, by lesser known authors, as well as authors in many other languages.


message 3: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (last edited Oct 03, 2021 06:00PM) (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
Our selection method will be informal, and a combination of Moderator's Choices and Member input.
There will be no formal nomination and seconding this time, since members sometimes find that life gets in the way of their reading plans, especially these last two years, and they can't get around to reading their choice.
That has happened to me as well.


There are a number of authors I would like to share with the group, including some major authors we have overlooked, and some lesser known authors I have really enjoyed reading.


message 4: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
Please share any authors you think would be interested in reading, as long as they fit our classic definition and are not English language authors.
You can list as many as you like, including authors mentioned by other members. Just remember that availability is a factor to take into consideration when making your list.


message 5: by Lesle, Appalachain Bibliophile (new)

Lesle | 8440 comments Mod
A wonderful plan Rosemarie!

I second the process :)


message 7: by Nidhi (new)

Nidhi Kumari | 320 comments I would like to suggest some ancient epics, like Metamorphosis, Inferno and Aenied by Virgil.


I will be reading Mahabharata the longest epic in the world, next year but it has ten books so it will be difficult to read as a group.


message 8: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
John, we read One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich this past January in Reading the Russians.
Please feel free to comment on any of his books under that heading. I look forward to reading any you, or our other members, make.


message 9: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
Nidhi, in the past we had a section called Epic Poetry, in which we read some of these works. The threads are still open for comments, since all of our book discussion threads stay open, so that anyone can comment at any time.
Enjoy the Mahabarata.


message 10: by Piyangie, Classical Princess (new)

Piyangie | 3580 comments Mod
Great plan, Rosemarie. I'd like to suggest the following authors.

Guy de Maupassant,
Stendhal,
Selma Lagerlöf,
Knut Hamsun,
Marcel Proust,
Fyodor Dostoevsky,
Thomas Mann


message 11: by Pam, Southwest Enchanter (new)

Pam (bluegrasspam) | 1156 comments Mod
From those authors listed already, I am definitely interested in:

Franz Kafka
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Stendhal
Thomas Mann
Herman Hesse

I'm also interested in these authors:
Stefan Zweig
Nikolai Leskov
Vsevolod Garshin (Might be hard to find. I have 1 of his books and it wasn't even listed in GR. Someone had to add it for me.)

I hope to be able to participate more in 2022! My timing is always off with what the group is reading.


message 12: by John (new)

John R I love this group! I'd never heard of the last three authors on Pam's list, but having had a quick look at their details, I definitely hope to read them in the next year.

(Who could resist being intrigued by the story of The Steel Flea - aka The Tale of Cross-eyed Lefty from Tula and the Steel Flea??)


message 13: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
Pam, we read One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich in January of this year. Please feel free to comment any time, if you've read the book. It's an amazing book!


message 14: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
John, Camus is our current author of the month in Classics in Translation.


message 15: by John (new)

John R Hi Rosemarie, I'm reading his The First Man, at the moment. But I'd be very happy to re-read some of his other books next year.


message 16: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
We'll see what happens. My goal is to read some authors we haven't read before, and I've already seen a couple on the various lists.
It is highly unlikely that we'll be reading an author whose works we read in the past three years-but you never know.


message 18: by Pam, Southwest Enchanter (new)

Pam (bluegrasspam) | 1156 comments Mod
I am also interested in Zola.


message 19: by Kathy (new)

Kathy E | 2352 comments How about George Sand?


message 20: by Tony (new)

Tony | 53 comments Looking for author's that get less coverage, I'm planning to read some more Magda Szabó (Hungary) next year.

I've really enjoyed both Abigail and The Door.

Next on my list are Katalin Street and Iza's Ballad in 2022.


message 21: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (last edited Oct 06, 2021 03:44PM) (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
I like seeing new authors on the list!

I have some authors in mind-but they're going to be a surprise.

And we can do some really early pre-planning for the following year, if our list is just too long to do in one year.


message 22: by Karin (new)

Karin | 683 comments Rosemarie wrote: "I like seeing new authors on the list!

I have some authors in mind-but they're going to be a surprise.

And we can do some really early pre-planning for the following year, if our list is just too..."


Pre-planning reminds me of the term pre-thinking. My husband s has a field day with "pre-thinking" by taking it literally, so now I do this with pre-planning ;) and I think of it as I am planning to plan.


message 23: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
Whatever works!


message 24: by Lesle, Appalachain Bibliophile (last edited Oct 10, 2021 04:36AM) (new)

Lesle | 8440 comments Mod
Pre-thinking doesn’t attempt to predict the future or even plan for it. Rather, it describes what is possible and considers how we might respond to those possibilities.

Interesting difference!

I thought pre-thinking came before pre-planning! Who knew!


message 25: by Karin (last edited Oct 13, 2021 09:55AM) (new)

Karin | 683 comments Lesle wrote: "Pre-thinking doesn’t attempt to predict the future or even plan for it. Rather, it describes what is possible and considers how we might respond to those possibilities.

Interesting difference!

I..."


My husband just takes these terms LITERALLY in jest. As in pre-thinking comes before someone every thinks, and pre-planning before anyone plans, but I wasn't clear so I have had us in a fun, thoughtful discourse by mistake :)!

I suppose it could be called dad jokes since he's also a dad.


message 26: by Piyangie, Classical Princess (new)

Piyangie | 3580 comments Mod
I'd like to add Charles Baudelaire to my already suggested list in message 10. Sorry, Rosemarie, for this late input. I totally forgot him and remembered only when I just checked my kindle!


message 27: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
No worries, Piyangie. It's an informal process this year, and maybe even into the next year. I have a few surprise authors in mind, that I really want to share with the group too-some lesser known authors and some Nobel Prize winners as well.


message 28: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (last edited Oct 27, 2021 06:59AM) (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
My mod's choice authors for 2022 so far are:

Italy:
Giovannino Guareschi who wrote The Little World of Don Camillo and other books in that series. They are fun reads for the most part, although a very few have more serious topics since they refer to events that happened in World War 2. The main character is a very unusual Roman Catholic priest.
The Little World refers to his small town parish in the Po valley.

British Commonwealth:
Nevil Shute wrote numerous novels, of which I have read quite a few.
His most famous books are On the Beach and A Town Like Alice. His most engaging book is The Pied Piper.
I have enjoyed every book that I've read by this author.

Israel:
Nobel Prize winning author in 1966, S.Y. Agnon. I've read it twice and will most likely read it again in 2022.


message 29: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (last edited Oct 27, 2021 07:28AM) (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
Female Authors which haven't been read by our group:

Marlen Haushofer
Magda Szabó
Simone de Beauvoir
Madame de La Fayette
Eileen Chang
Selma Lagerlöf(we read one book in YA)
Sigrid Undset
George Sand (one of her books may be in the Hefty read section, in which case we won't be reading her here)

Which three authors would you like to read in 2022?


message 30: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
Would anyone be interested in a month dedicated to poetry? Maybe December 2022 when we are busy trying to finish our reading challenges or getting ready for the holidays.

Charles Baudelaire has been mentioned already, but there are many more!
We could perhaps share a favourite poem?
Victor Hugo wrote poetry and plays as well as novels, as did Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
And as I said earlier, there are so many others we could read and share with the group.


message 31: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
We will be reading at least work of Émile Zola in 2022.

Which of his works would you like to read? We don't all need to read the same book, of course, but some members really enjoy reading a book along with other members in the group.

One of his shortest books is Thérèse Raquin, a stand alone book.
Then there is his Rougon-Macquart series. Each book has a different theme or looks at a different aspect of society. Some of them are very long, but all worth reading.


message 32: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (last edited Oct 27, 2021 07:34AM) (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
Male Authors we haven't read as a group.

Hermann Hesse
Jean-Paul Sartre
Robert Walser
Alessandro Manzoni (might be read in the heftys)
Max Frisch
Ferenc Molnár

Please choose one author from the list, thanks.


message 33: by Piyangie, Classical Princess (new)

Piyangie | 3580 comments Mod
I choose Jean-Paul Sartre from male authors and Selma Lagerlöf, Magda Szabó and Madame de La Fayette from female authors.


message 34: by Pam, Southwest Enchanter (new)

Pam (bluegrasspam) | 1156 comments Mod
Of Zola’s books, I have 4 on my shelves that I am interested in reading, in this order: 1) Nana, 2)The Paradise (The Ladies Paradise), 3) The Belly of Paris, and 4) L’Assommoir. I haven’t read any of his books so I’m open to suggestions.

For the male authors, I’m interested in Hesse.


message 35: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (last edited Oct 27, 2021 10:29AM) (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
Nana is the weakest of the four you've mentioned, Pam. It starts out well but verges on the ridiculous towards the end. The other three you've mentioned are much better.
Nana is introduced as a child in L'Assommoir, which is one of my favourites.


message 36: by Pam, Southwest Enchanter (new)

Pam (bluegrasspam) | 1156 comments Mod
Rosemarie- Thanks for that info! I will def not read Nana first. My husband read it and recommended it and I saw the movie. The others I have no familiarity with.


message 37: by John (new)

John R Rosemarie wrote: "Female Authors which haven't been read by our group:

Marlen Haushofer
Magda Szabó
Simone de Beauvoir
Madame de La Fayette
[author:Ei..."


My three favourites from that list would be Haushofer, de Beauvoir, and Sand.


message 38: by John (new)

John R Rosemarie wrote: "Male Authors we haven't read as a group.

Hermann Hesse
Jean-Paul Sartre
Robert Walser
Alessandro Manzoni (might be read in the heftys)..."


My favourites would be Hesse, Sartre, and Walser.


message 39: by John (new)

John R Rosemarie wrote: "Would anyone be interested in a month dedicated to poetry? Maybe December 2022 when we are busy trying to finish our reading challenges or getting ready for the holidays.

[author:Charles Baudelair..."


Fantastic idea, Rosemarie!


message 40: by Lesle, Appalachain Bibliophile (new)

Lesle | 8440 comments Mod
Just a reminder
It looks like we will be reading under Husky's:

The Glass Bead Game by Hermann Hesse (578 pages) - IIII


message 41: by Lesle, Appalachain Bibliophile (new)

Lesle | 8440 comments Mod
Tony wrote: "Looking for author's that get less coverage, I'm planning to read some more Magda Szabó (Hungary) next year.

I've really enjoyed both Abigail and The Door.Next on m..."


Tony these look very interesting and are quite affordable too. (Not in hardcover though lol)


message 42: by Lesle, Appalachain Bibliophile (new)

Lesle | 8440 comments Mod
Rosemarie wrote: "Female Authors which haven't been read by our group:

Marlen Haushofer
Magda Szabó
Simone de Beauvoir
Madame de La Fayette
[author:Ei..."


I like this list Rosemarie.


message 43: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
Thanks. It was suggested by our group members.


message 44: by Gilbert (new)

Gilbert Rosemarie wrote: "We will be reading at least work of Émile Zola in 2022.

Which of his works would you like to read? We don't all need to read the same book, of course, but some members really enjoy r..."


Zola is on my list, having Thérèse Raquin and the Rougon-Macquart series on my TBR pile.


message 45: by Pam, Southwest Enchanter (last edited Oct 30, 2021 09:24AM) (new)

Pam (bluegrasspam) | 1156 comments Mod
Assuming that Hesse’s Glass Bead is a Hefty/Husky read, I will go with Sartre and Szabó.

Also, I like the idea of a poetry read in December but can’t see myself reading a whole book of poetry! I could read a few select poems, though. I’m getting ready to read The Narrow Road to the Deep North and Other Travel Sketches by the Japanese poet Basho. (I usually avoid poetry but I do like Haiku.) I just finished I am a Japanese Writer by Dany Laferrière, in which the main character is reading Basho’s book throughout the entire book.


message 46: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
The poems don't need to be all by the same author. Browsing is good.


message 47: by Piyangie, Classical Princess (new)

Piyangie | 3580 comments Mod
I like the idea of a poetry month, Rosemarie. December should be a good time. I'll keep my Baudelaire till then. I'm very interested in reading his Les Fleurs du Mal


message 48: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
I look forward to poetry month already! I'll be rereading Baudelaire as well as some other favourites.


message 49: by John (new)

John R I'm setting myself a 2022 personal target of reading 12 books of pre-1972 poetry by Scottish poets - and I'll use the poetry month of December to make up any ground I lose over the year. I've just spent a happy half-hour selecting the 12 books from my bookshelves.


message 50: by Rosemarie, Northern Roaming Scholar (new)

Rosemarie | 15684 comments Mod
I like your plan, John!


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