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Me too

Glad you loved it though!





Good it ain't just me, because normally I would get the audiobook with the Kindle edition, but using some stuff on my computer I've been able to read it by myself without help from an audiobook. Basically this is the first installment where I'll probably skip getting an audiobook for this.
Now that I've been able to read through this book, here's the problem I have with it, the flashback scenes and scenes with the kidnapping should not have been put in. They were uneven, they slowed things down and the first flashback scene spoiled way too damn much. Those problems pretty much hindered my ability to even get into the scenes where Eve and Roarke were doing their thing with the rest of the protagonists.
It's pretty much lead me to this verdict that this is possibly the worst In Death installment since Conspiracy in Death. I am dead serious.



Also understand that not everyone can be pleased with everything, and I was not pleased with this book.

I listened to the audio again last night. The story held my attention from start to finish. I loved the Eve and Roarke moments as I expected. I didn't guess the murderer. He surprised me.
I always get a kick out of Eve when she worries about her friends. It was a good read for me.
Electric Seth, We don't use foul language normally.


By the second chapter you say? This might be taken by some as a spoiler in itself.

Well you are good Cookie. I didn't get any hint in the second chapter or any chapter until Eve told me.

I don't think it will be one of my favorites, but I will give it another listen to see how it goes. I really enjoyed the last few books - loved 'Forgotten in Death' from the start. I just couldn't seem to get into the story in "Abandoned".
I don't think this one was written as a 'filler'. I think "JDR" was trying out a different approach - hope she's not getting bored with the characters.

I'm just glad we got to hang with Eve and Roarke. Got to see the progress of the house. Great so see how much Jamie has grown. I suppose sometimes I like that it's about the ordinary if that makes sense. Everything is always the case to the exclusion of everything else. This was low key, rest of the squad, life goes on kinda vibe for me.

I wasn't a big fan of Forgotten except for certain parts. That one felt disjointed for me cause I wasn't a fan of the two separate cases and it felt a little underwhelming but did like the last parts of it more.
This one was more catch up on characters and a little expansion due to who did it. I did figure it out soon so it was more how was it going to play out.
My favorite of the last few was Faithless.

I co-sign that opinion, that book is what Conspiracy in Death should've been in the first place. A religious cult getting into a conspiracy of kidnapping, brainwashing, child marriages, abuse, money laundering. All caused by one of their members committing cold-blooded murder on an artist for having an affair with her lesbian lover.
Whereas with Conspiracy, it would've been a better book had Whitney and Tibble left Eve alone and not take her badge. AND NO I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANOTHER WORD ABOUT PROCEDURES!


I know the ones Concealed and Leverage were ones I have had the most issues with as Eve getting on her high horse about stuff pissed me off. I think Echoes disturbed me the most for some reason as I haven't revisited that one since I first read.
I think for me I love the series but some are just ones that I love more than others for different reasons. Some it's the case and some it's the character catch I enjoy.

Thing is, I know Concealed and Celebrity and Leverage were pretty polarizing, and I do agree about Leverage, because that argument was completely unnecessary and I still don't know to this day what set Eve off to have that argument.
But what makes me give Concealed and Celebrity a pass is that they were both quiet books and call me weird, but I actually like the quiet books more than I do the high-tension ones.

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I really enjoyed Celebrity for the same reason you do. It was fun and chill and interesting. The park scene with Nadine and the whole army of squirrels and the air force pigeons seriously cracks me up!
And yes the Leverage argument pissed me off cause it reminds me way too much of her at the beginning and it's like why are you tripping about something so simple. But the reason I think it lost me as nothing about the case drew me in as interesting like that.
The thing that irritated me about Concealed was kinda of the same reason. She got so super high and mighty with Mavis about her past. It was irritating as she doesn't know if she herself could have fell into something similar without being found. So it felt very irritating of her behavior with this guy as I get it and at the same time he could have done way worse and Mavis overcame.
I did like some that were more quiet books like Celebrity which is a fav. Dark in Death, Secrets, Calculated, and Strangers were some I felt more on the quiet side that I liked. I honestly think one that was a pretty boring was Memory. It's up there with the Concealed for me. And then some are more on the disturbing side for me like Echoes and Holiday are hard for me to go back to often.
These comments are proof positive that this series has something for everyone’s individual tastes. Over the years, I’ve become accustomed to each book eliciting a variety of opinions and this one is no different.
The “Before” and “Now” scenes are definitely something new and, initially, I didn’t know what to make of them. As the story progressed, I came to look forward to them. It helped me with context as the case progressed.
The story as a whole dragged for me in the beginning but I find that to be true for most of the stories because of my impatience. As they started breaking through some of the clues, I got more engaged.
I always love Interview and this one was most satisfying. Good to see Mira in the room.
Loved that M.K. bonded with Jenkinson! Wonder if that will go anywhere in the future.
Overall, I enjoyed the story but it’s not one of my favorites.
The “Before” and “Now” scenes are definitely something new and, initially, I didn’t know what to make of them. As the story progressed, I came to look forward to them. It helped me with context as the case progressed.
The story as a whole dragged for me in the beginning but I find that to be true for most of the stories because of my impatience. As they started breaking through some of the clues, I got more engaged.
I always love Interview and this one was most satisfying. Good to see Mira in the room.
Loved that M.K. bonded with Jenkinson! Wonder if that will go anywhere in the future.
Overall, I enjoyed the story but it’s not one of my favorites.

Jonetta, I agree with you that it was enjoyable but not a favorite. I thought the mystery was good and didn't mind the "before and now" part of the story. I just wanted more of a story line somewhere in the book that felt personal to Eve. I know we were supposed to get that from all the talk of Mavis's new house and baby, but it just seemed too disconnected from Eve's life and the mystery to make it feel relevant. We did get a little look into Eve's past again, but it didn't seem like it was anything new that added to Eve's story.
Lynn, I can’t quite put my finger on what it was exactly but it was something like what you describe.

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The woman’s body was found on a bench in a New York City playground. She was clean, her hair neatly arranged, her makeup carefully applied. But other things were very wrong—like the tattoo and piercings, clearly new. The clothes, decades out of date. The fatal wound hidden beneath a ribbon around her neck. And the note: Bad Mommy, written in crayon as if by a child.
It seems clear the killer’s childhood was traumatic—a situation Eve is all too familiar with herself. Yet the clues point to a perpetrator who’d be around sixty, and there are no records of old crimes with a similar MO. What was the trigger that apparently reopened such an old wound and sent someone over the edge? When Eve learns that other young women have recently vanished, the case grows even more urgent—and to solve it she’ll need to find her way into a hidden place of dim light and concrete, into the distant past, and into the depths of a shattered mind.
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June 2061
Settings
New York City, New York
22 Chapters
Character List
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Recurring Characters
Eve Dallas: Lieutenant and homicide detective in the NYSPD. Married to Roarke.
Roarke: Billionaire, married to Eve.
Detective Delia Peabody: Eve's partner and Ian McNab's cohab.
Detective Ian McNab: EDD detective and Peabody's cohab.
Capt. Ryan Feeney: Head of EDD. Eve's former partner and trainer.
Commander Jack Whitney: Eve's boss. Married to Anna. Harrison Tibble: Police chief.
Detective David Baxter: On Eve's squad. He's Troy Trueheart's partner.
Detective Troy Trueheart: Baxter's partner.
Detective Jenkinson: On Eve's squad. Wears awful ties and is Reineke’s partner.
Detective Reineke: Detective in Eve's squad and Jenkinson’s partner.
Detective Santiago: On Eve's squad and Carmichael’s partner.
Detective Carmichael: On Eve’s squad and Santiago’s partner (female).
Detective Lilah Strong: Illegals division detective.
Officer Carmichael: Assigned to Eve's squad (male).
Officer Jan Shelby: Former beat patrol officer now assigned to Eve's squad. She's mentoring her.
Cher Reo: Assistant Prosecuting Attorney.
Kyung Beaverton: NYPSD media liaison.
Dr. Li Morris: New York City chief medical examiner.
Dr. Charlotte Mira: NYPSD psychologist and profiler. She's Eve's surrogate mother.
Dennis Mira: Dr. Mira’s husband, a college professor.
Callendar: E-detective in EDD under Feeney.
Marley: E-detective in EDD under Feeney.
Nadine Furst: Crime beat reporter for Channel 75 and host of the show NOW, Eve's friend. She’s in a relationship with Jake Kincade.
Jake Kincade: Rock Star with the band Avenue A. He’s in a serious relationship with Nadine.
Mavis Freestone: Music phenom, married to Leonardo and Eve's best friend. Mother of Bella.
Leonardo: Renowned fashion designer married to Mavis and father of their daughter Bella.
Belle (Bella): Mavis and Leonardo's daughter.
Louise Dimatto: MD and friend of Eve, married to Charles Monroe.
Charles Monroe: Former LC (licensed companion), now a sex therapist married to Louise and a good friend of Eve’s.
Garnet DeWinter: Forensic anthropologist.
Miranda DeWinter: Garnet’s daughter.
Yee: CSI investigator.
Dick (Dickie) Berenski: Head of the forensic lab.
Abdul Siler: Forensic technician.
Ursa Harvo: Forensic technician; good with hair and fibers.
Elsie Kendrick: Forensic sketch artist.
Michaela Junta: HazMat team leader.
Teasdale: FBI special agent.
Anthony Quirk: FBI special agent who went undercover at Natural Order and is now missing.
Conroy: FBI special agent.
Summerset: Roarke's majordomo, his surrogate father.
Caro: Roarke’s assistant.
Jamie Lingstrom: Feeney's godson and Roarke's protégé.
Bebe Hewitt: Nadine’s boss.
Wilson (Crack): Owner of the Down and Dirty sex club. He’s a good friend of Eve’s and is involved with Rochelle.
Rochelle Pickering: Psychologist specializing in children. She’s consulted at Dochas and Roarke hired her to work at An Didean.
Quilla: One of the teens who was at the youth center, The Sanctuary (Concealed in Death), now an intern for Nadine. Now working with Rochelle at An Didean.
Ivanna: Summerset’s companion.
Non Recurring Characters
Mary Kate Covino: Abducted by the killer. She’s referred to as Mommy #3. She’s an assistant marketing manager.
Lauren Elder: Murder victim. She was referred to as Mommy #1 by the killer. She was a bartender at Arnold’s. Her co-had was Roy Mardsten.
Roy Mardsten: Lauren’s co-hab.
Detective Norman: Detective assigned to Lauren Elder’s missing persons investigation.
Anna Hobe: Missing woman who fits the profile of Lauren’s abductor. She worked at Mike’s Place, a karaoke bar. She’s Mommy #2.
Becca Muldoon: Missing woman who fits the profile of Lauren’s abductor. She’s a dancer at Honey Pot, a strip club.
Joe Fletcher: ER doctor who found “Violet,” the killer’s mother.
Violet Fletcher: Killer’s mother who was found by Joe. He gave her the name.
Joella Fletcher: Joe and Violet’s daughter. She’s an ER doctor.
Chasen Q. Fletcher: Joe and Violet’s oldest son. He’s a writer.
Edward Fletcher: Joe and Violet’s youngest child. He’s a US Senator from Louisiana.
Cleo Bette: Mary Kate’s roommate.
Teagan Stone: Mary Kate’s ex-boyfriend.
Linny Dowell: Head of the company where Mary Kate works.
James (Jim) Mosebly: Mary Kate’s mentor and supervisor.
Andrew (Andy) Dawber: Forensic chemist.
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Spoiler Info
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Becca Muldoon wasn’t abducted. She eloped.
Anna Hobe was killed.
Violet’s real name was Lisa McKinney from Arcadia, Tennessee. Andrew Dawber was her son, named John Church when he went into the foster system in Baton Rouge. His birth name was John McKinney.
Mary Kate was rescued, right as she was making moves to free herself.
When Joe was killed by a drunk driver, Violet’s memory returned in a flood. She figured out where her firstborn was, provided him with money and a house, including a letter explaining everything. She then took her own life, not being able to live without Joe and with the new memories. (hide spoiler)]