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Yanique Gillana | 2876 comments Mod
This is a Buddy Read for Ashes of Honor by Seanan McGuire starting June 5, 2023.
Ashes of Honor (October Daye, #6) by Seanan McGuire

Happy Reading!


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
This is when I plan to go back and do all the prequels short stories with Tybalt, Luideag, etc ... It's alot


message 3: by Tonari no Emily (last edited Feb 24, 2023 01:41AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Shorts after Ashes of Honor

--Rat Catcher-- Available from http://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/fic...





I have a suggested schedule of all the shorts I was gonna post. It breaks them up a bit


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
I'll wait and see fhen


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
Megaspoiler talk with Emily: I read the first few chapters, and (view spoiler)


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "Megaspoiler talk with Emily:..."

Megaspoiler reply (view spoiler) Im super pumped for the double feature this year. Have we scheduled that BR yet?


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
I'm not sure if we scheduled this year's releases for BR... for the monthly BR, I assume we'll do a double feature like we're doing for Dresden, but that still won't be until next April/May, I think...

I'll probably read them when the audio comes out this year, too...

Megaspoiler talk: (view spoiler)


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments I will likely be reading them on the release day :D


message 9: by Timelord Iain, Tech Support (last edited Jun 08, 2023 05:48PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
Tonari no Emily wrote: "I will likely be reading them on the release day :D"

I wait for the audiobook... and 50-90% of the time, Mary Robinette Kowal is too busy being an author to record on time... hopefully this time she's on time... I think the extra book has a male narrator... would be sad if it released before the Toby book...

Then again, maybe I just made that up... hard to confirm right now... they're not up for pre-order...


Nirkatze | 21041 comments So... if y'all read the new releases on release day, will you still join us newbies when we get 'round to them? ^^


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments oh for sure! :D


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
Nirkatze wrote: "So... if y'all read the new releases on release day, will you still join us newbies when we get 'round to them? ^^"

I'll re-read, I'm sure...


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
I never really came back and talked one I finished the story...

The title of this one always sounds a bit sad to me, after the previous book, but the romantic angle is quickly hashed out...

The Goblin Fruit angle feels like a sudden addition, that should have kinda existed more from the beginning, given the childhood/Home, but I guess that's swept under the rug as "Darrin forbade it"...

I've always loved the premise of this one, (view spoiler)


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Tonari no Emily wrote: "oh for sure! :D"

Yay!!

Looking forward to reading y'all's spoilers... running about a week or more late on everything...


Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments I am up to Ch. 13... (view spoiler)


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
Choko wrote: "I am up to Ch. 13..."

The Goblin Fruit thing is a Toby Pet Project... it'll play out more in the NEXT book...


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
Choko wrote: "I am up to Ch. 13..."

(view spoiler)


message 18: by Nirkatze (last edited Jun 15, 2023 02:46PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Nirkatze | 21041 comments Finished up previous book earlier than I thought so I'm jumping in and yay! I get to read at the same time as Choko! I have a goal now--to get to ch. 13 and read that spoiler tag...

It's your first time too, right Choko?


Nirkatze | 21041 comments I keep meaning to do a deeper dive into the Shakespeare quotes at the start of each book, after reading them, to see if there's more connection than the simple line.


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Into Chapter Three--(view spoiler)


message 21: by Nirkatze (last edited Jun 15, 2023 08:39PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Nirkatze | 21041 comments I read McGuire's most recent Patreon email--about her history with My Little Ponies, and I keep thinking about it while reading. It sounds like she had a really tough childhood... And like Toby notes in Chapter 4, (view spoiler)


Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments I hate The Changeling's Choice! It seems excessively cruel no matter what the kid chooses...

I don't know anything about McGuire's past... I need to find out more...

Luideag's house!!! Hahaha! I should learn how to do illusions:) My house is always clean, but a total mess, so the Luideag and I have exactly the opposite problem:)

I am about 75% in and it's good to see April again! I don't know anything about the new Chinese character, but I hope she is one of the good guys. You just never know with this series...

The girl must be so scared, out of control and not knowing what the hell is going on... My heart goes out to her...


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
McGuire was groomed / molested as a kid, I think... I think there's a Foreword in Lost in the Moment and Found that indicates the plot of the story hit really close to home... and the plot of that book involves a kid whose dad dies at Target at age 8, and a creeper boyfriend moves in and starts grooming the kid and messing with her head, before she runs away and finds her portal world...


message 24: by Nirkatze (last edited Jun 16, 2023 01:57AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Nirkatze | 21041 comments Her My Little Pony essay talks about people stealing her things in order to pawn them (maybe for drugs), and essentially being kicked out of the house to fend for herself at 16--though her options were to stay with her mother and move to a bad neighborhood with bad schools, or try to find a way to stay at her good school with college track classes... apparently My Little Pony were too cheap to be pawnable, and practically indestructible, so they were the best toys...


Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments This is horrible!!! What is wrong with us people?!?!?! Ghhhrrr!!!!


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Nirkatze | 21041 comments On the plus side, when she had to leave her house to stay in school, several of her friends took up the slack and she finished off her school years staying with friends...

I just found it really interesting--and inspiring--how she took the pain of her childhood and turned it into stories... so other people who have had experiences like this can read her books and feel seen...


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
I'm still left with tons of questions...

I know she likes to travel alot, and does alot of her writing all over the world, and while visiting Disney Parks...

And that she spent twenty years living with a friend/roommate and her mother... and she moved from California to Oregon a few years ago, with her mother... that was the financial inspiration for starting a Patreon Page, initially...

The story on that was pretty clear that it was just a friend, and not a romantic relationship that ended... but they'd lived together so long they may as well have been married, when it came to appliances and furnishing that were now needed...

The Wayward Children series has alot of messages about children and childhood, and how mature children may be seen as a good thing by schoolteachers and the like, but isn't necessarily a good sign regarding home life...


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Through Chapter 10 now... (view spoiler)


Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments I agree! Those Choice traditions don't make sense. And who makes the rules anyway? Why can't they be changed?!


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
Nirkatze wrote: "Through Chapter 10 now..."

(view spoiler)


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
I think I can start saying a bit more (mostly speculation, but you need a few more details to avoid spoilers) after book 8...


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments I don't have the mental energy to make very meaningful comments the past few weeks, but I love y'alls comments! Keep the speculation coming, this series really is a good one for theories :)
Re changeling's choice (view spoiler)


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
Tonari no Emily wrote: "I don't have the mental energy to make very meaningful comments the past few weeks, but I love y'alls comments! Keep the speculation coming, this series really is a good one for theories :)
Re chan..."


(view spoiler)


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Timelord Iain wrote: "Tonari no Emily wrote: "I don't have the mental energy to make very meaningful comments the past few weeks, but I love y'alls comments! Keep the speculation coming, this series really is a good one..."

Here's the quote from book 5, chapter 26--I just did an ebook search for keywords (view spoiler)

I really like your analysis, @Emily--the cruelty does seem very on point with that tradition, (view spoiler)

I'm up to Chapter 12 now, and (view spoiler)


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Nirkatze | 21041 comments More Chapter 12--(view spoiler)


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
Nirkatze wrote: "Timelord Iain wrote: "Tonari no Emily wrote: "I don't have the mental energy to make very meaningful comments the past few weeks, but I love y'alls comments! Keep the speculation coming, this serie..."

(view spoiler)


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Nice being able to talk about some of that stuff more openly now! Nifty note about (view spoiler)

Chapter 13 Making a guess... (view spoiler)

Random note meant to mention this earlier--but Quentin (view spoiler)

Oh, and another thing--(view spoiler)

And yay! Now I can open those Chapter 13 Spoiler Tags! re: @Iain & Choko--(view spoiler)


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Chapter 18, dammit Raj (view spoiler)

Chapter 19 What? (view spoiler)


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Regular Chapter 19 (view spoiler)


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
Nice try, Nirkatze... you won't get spoilers out of me that easy ;)

We're getting close to number 8 BR... and yea, this was when I figured it was OK to start the Tybalt short stories... there are dozens, at this point, I think...


Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Just some notes on your thoughts:

Raj totally needs the official squire title! And his friendship with Quinton is not only adorable, but you are right, might be good for the future relations of their respective peoples.

Hahaha! I should get some emergency "I am being emotionally damaged by my books" ice cream in the freezer too!!! Great idea:))) Good to know you are prepared, Nirkatze?:)

Yeah, I can see how the Hope Chest and a Toby would be best used to deal with the inevitable mental instability that comes with the mixing of the Fae lines...

I find Duchess Riordan very scary! She is not insane, just totally ruthless and ambitious. Kind of how I think of The Gile/ Big Red in the Lightbringer series... Scary but focused and you have to respect them as an opponent...

I love the Alfie suggestion, and I am in love with the Luideag!!!:))

Tybalt's confession!<3

Chirurgeon is a legit usable term, so it should be Scrabble eligible!

I was so happy when her friends confronted Toby on her disregard for her own life! It makes people who care about you really go through some very painful and anxiety riddled moments!

Iain, you are evil as always:))) Just the way we love you!


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Finished! Really enjoyed this one! Really enjoying them all once the overarching story really kicked off.

Waaa! Thank you for all the response comments, Choko! That icecream got eaten very quickly....

(view spoiler)


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
Nirkatze wrote: "Finished! Really enjoyed this one! Really enjoying them all once the overarching story really kicked off.

Waaa! Thank you for all the response comments, Choko! That icecream got eaten very quickl..."


You're hitting close to alot of things, now... thanks to all the hints... I won't say which, tho...

But, re:Amandine: (view spoiler)


Choko (chokog) | 12597 comments Nirkatze, I had all the same thoughts and feelings! I am particularly interested in the cop, who had him entranced, and when are we getting him back...

It hasn't even occurred to me that Faerie could be personalized like that Iain, but I think it's a great idea!!! Very creative thinking!

I sure am loving this series and our discussions:)))


Nirkatze | 21041 comments Yes, very interesting theory about Faerie... (view spoiler)


Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Just got to In Sea-Salt Tears... Everything about the selkies/Luideag is so tragic... Her storyline is my favorite in this series.


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
That one’s super tragic on all sides


message 48: by Tonari no Emily (last edited Jun 18, 2023 11:27AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tonari no Emily (emlfem) | 5115 comments Also went ahead and read Rat Catcher for the first time (view spoiler)
McGuire writes pretty strong shorties!


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Timelord Iain | 35317 comments Mod
Tonari no Emily wrote: "Also went ahead and read Rat Catcher for the first time [spoilers removed]
McGuire writes pretty strong shorties!"


McGuires writes short stories with purpose... we know Butcher writes Dresden shorts to deadline, and usually with little idea, but McGuire is on record saying she writes most short stories for herself, to lock in and reinforce backstory that will help guide her use of the characters in the main series...


Paula (paula7) | 1943 comments until chapter 12
(view spoiler)


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