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Hyperion (Hyperion Cantos, #1)
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Monthly Reading: Discussion > October 2023 - Hyperion - No spoilers, please

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message 1: by Kateblue, 2nd star to the right and straight on til morning (last edited Sep 30, 2023 07:18PM) (new) - added it

Kateblue | 4796 comments Mod
I have been wanting to try these. Have fun


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Oleksandr Zholud | 5530 comments Mod
I've read and greatly enjoyed it a bit over 20 years ago. Will definitely re-read this month


Allan Phillips | 3673 comments Mod
Me too, I read it many years ago but don’t remember it much.


Kalin | 1492 comments Mod
It's one of the best books I've ever read. there are some truly sublime moments and truly creepy ones. I'm not going to reread it this month (will catch up on something else the group has read) but will follow the discussion. I hope everyone reading for the first time enjoys it. :)


Stephen Burridge | 1054 comments Looking forward to it. Probably later in the month.


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Oleksandr Zholud | 5530 comments Mod
Kalin wrote: "It's one of the best books I've ever read. ."

Yes, the structure of the first book, to some extent following Geoffrey Chaucer, with a then-current idea linked to the nature of Shrike... and tree-ships!


Rebecca Rash | 106 comments ok people I'm interested to hear the thoughts of others since this book is in my top 5 of all time


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Oleksandr Zholud | 5530 comments Mod
Rebecca wrote: "ok people I'm interested to hear the thoughts of others since this book is in my top 5 of all time"

I also liked it very much upon the first read around the year 2000. I plan to re-read it starting the next week


message 9: by Kateblue, 2nd star to the right and straight on til morning (last edited Oct 06, 2023 10:03PM) (new) - added it

Kateblue | 4796 comments Mod
I have been trying to read this and I just can't get interested. Maybe some other time.

I'm sorry. I am having trouble reading anything right now. Lack of concentration. I will get over it. I hope


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Oleksandr Zholud | 5530 comments Mod
Kateblue wrote: "I'm sorry. I am having trouble reading anything right now. Lack of concentration. I will get over it. I hope"

I hope you'll return to it one day for the book is good. But as always, read what keeps your interest, it should be a joy, not a drudge.


Allan Phillips | 3673 comments Mod
I had a chance to knock out a couple hours of the audio book today. The story is coming back to me as I go through it. It sucked me right in and I'm remembering why it was such a great book. I'm a pretty big fan of Simmons at any rate.


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Oleksandr Zholud | 5530 comments Mod
I've started the novel today. As I noted, I've read and very much enjoyed the translation of it 20 years ago. It is interesting to note that I was very impressed with the first story, plus I recall the overall plot, but as of now I cannot remember what the rest of the stories were about


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Oleksandr Zholud | 5530 comments Mod
Allan wrote: "I'm a pretty big fan of Simmons at any rate.."

I liked this quadrology, but haven't read anything else by him.


Allan Phillips | 3673 comments Mod
Oleksandr wrote: "Allan wrote: "I'm a pretty big fan of Simmons at any rate.."

I liked this quadrology, but haven't read anything else by him."


He's pretty versatile, able to write well indifferent genres. In addition to his SF, I've read a few of his horror titles:
The Terror - historical horror, somewhat overlong, but very good
Carrion Comfort - really creepy
Song of Kali - his first book, very creepy but there was some small element missing. Still well worth a read.


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Oleksandr Zholud | 5530 comments Mod
I usually don't read horror, even by known masters - it wasn't translated when I was young and formed my reading habits I guess. Y plan to try his Terror one day


Allan Phillips | 3673 comments Mod
Oleksandr wrote: "I usually don't read horror, even by known masters - it wasn't translated when I was young and formed my reading habits I guess. Y plan to try his Terror one day"

While it has a horror element, The Terror is less horror & more historical fiction, speculating on what happened to the lost expedition of Sir John Franklin in 1848. Nine years after Simmons published the book, HMS Terror was found in pristine condition at the bottom of an Arctic bay near King William Island.


Stephen Burridge | 1054 comments The Terror was the first Simmons novel I read, and I liked it a lot. I subsequently read a few other things about the Franklin expedition, which has interested a variety of writers. I've since read a few other books by Simmons, none of them as good as The Terror in my opinion. Looking forward to starting Hyperion soon.


Kalin | 1492 comments Mod
Based on Hyperion, I'm looking forward to trying the Ilium/Olympos duology, and of course finishing the rest of the Cantos.

I am glad that I read -- and fell in love with -- this book, before discovering that Simmons is pretty much a crotchety old asshole at this point.


Rebecca Rash | 106 comments @kalin lololo


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Oleksandr Zholud | 5530 comments Mod
Kalin wrote: "I am glad that I read -- and fell in love with -- this book, before discovering that Simmons is pretty much a crotchety old asshole at this point."

Note that all 4 books of the series each follows/alludes/pays homage to different works and styles - to space opera, political intrigue, mil-SF, etc. they all are good but IMHO the first is the best


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Ed Erwin | 902 comments Oleksandr wrote: "... they all are good but IMHO the first is the best ..."

I have to agree. The first few stories in Hyperion were the best for me. They were also pretty horrific. Lots of pain and blood. Not what I was expecting when I started it, but it was so well done.


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Oleksandr Zholud | 5530 comments Mod
I guess I'll finish it today. I may buddy read other volumes later this year if anyone is interested


Rebecca Rash | 106 comments I'll definitely buddy read Endymion and rise of Endymion with folks. haven't been able to get to those yet


Stephen Burridge | 1054 comments Late getting started but I should be into it shortly.


Allan Phillips | 3673 comments Mod
Yes, I’d buddy read the others. I finished it last week & even managed to do it on long audio. Always wanted to read the others, and this re-read gave me the excuse to do it.


Kalin | 1492 comments Mod
No need to buddy read, per se. The Fall of Hyperion and The Rise of Endymion are both in this group's TBR list.


Stephen Burridge | 1054 comments I’ve read the first story. Pretty wild.


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Oleksandr Zholud | 5530 comments Mod
Stephen wrote: "I’ve read the first story. Pretty wild."

Weird but in a good way, right? :)


Stephen Burridge | 1054 comments I think the horror writer in Simmons is apparent here.


Kalin | 1492 comments Mod
Stephen wrote: "I think the horror writer in Simmons is apparent here."

Yep. And each chapter draws on a different (sub)genre, but that first one leans heavily into existential horror.


Allan Phillips | 3673 comments Mod
Stephen wrote: "I think the horror writer in Simmons is apparent here."

I think he does best in the horror genre. Not surprising that it's an element in many of his other books.


message 32: by Stephen (last edited Oct 28, 2023 04:42PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Stephen Burridge | 1054 comments I’m at the end of chapter 4, about 65% through the Kindle ebook. It’s certainly an intense, ambitious book.


Rebecca | 459 comments Another challenge I’m necroposting in, but I’ve finally decided to give this a try. Just started listening to the audio book tonight and only an hour into it. I’ll post my thoughts a bit here throughout.


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Oleksandr Zholud | 5530 comments Mod
Rebecca wrote: "Another challenge I’m necroposting in, but I’ve finally decided to give this a try. Just started listening to the audio ."

It is good


Rebecca | 459 comments It does seem like everyone enjoyed it, I'm looking forward to it.


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