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message 1: by John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW (new)

John | 1254 comments Mod
so um, following on from what ha[ppened in the GS topic, i made this, if you dont want to get angry, dont read,
oduseues
you ask me how mary was 14, at that time in that pl;ace, life expectancy was vert low, around 30, as such, women were married at the young age of 13, and got pregnant at around 14.

you ask me how we got here, well, we evolved from apes, who evevled from stuff, who evolved from amino acids, earth got here, from dust, dust from big bang, you want me to explain who creatred the universe??? draw a cicrcle, simple


message 2: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) Let's think about this now. From our earliest accoutns of history religion has always been present. Has it not? As far as I know it has. Also if humans have evolved from apes then why haven't we seen apes that look half human. Sorry but the theory of evolution has so many flaws in it I have to laugh. Not to offend anyone. But it's been proved wrong over and over again. Besides I would like to hear how people explain how the universe was made because I see no argument that could be raised that could prove the big bang theory. I mean wouldn't we see so many unnatural things if evolution was true? Yet, have we really seen living things that even look like a human?


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John | 1254 comments Mod
Odysseus wrote: "So your telling me that Humans that are very smart and that have brains eolved from acid and dust that's retatrded and doens'nt really make any sense. PLus How would you know the life expectency of..."

the romans empire capital was called rome. telling me god made us make any sense, if god made us perfect, why do whales have leg bones


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John | 1254 comments Mod
Stephanie wrote: "Let's think about this now. From our earliest accoutns of history religion has always been present. Has it not? As far as I know it has. Also if humans have evolved from apes then why haven't we se..."

using a electro telescope you can see rapidly expanding paricles at the edge of the universe, if you rewind this(which can be done) they converge into an incredibly unstable piece of matter



message 5: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) But who or what created the paricles I wonder?


message 6: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) John wrote: "Odysseus wrote: "So your telling me that Humans that are very smart and that have brains eolved from acid and dust that's retatrded and doens'nt really make any sense. PLus How would you know the l..."

i'm sorry i could hardly follow that.


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John | 1254 comments Mod
Stephanie wrote: "Let's think about this now. From our earliest accoutns of history religion has always been present. Has it not? As far as I know it has. Also if humans have evolved from apes then why haven't we se..."
so how come 99% of our is shared with apes
i also doubt the first humans believed in a god, to busy surviving and stuff.
come to think of it, christianity justed jacked all the pagan festivals




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John | 1254 comments Mod
Odysseus wrote: "So your telling me that Humans that are very smart and that have brains eolved from acid and dust that's retatrded and doens'nt really make any sense. PLus How would you know the life expectency of..."
how would i know life expectancy, they had graves you retard




message 9: by Stephanie (last edited Dec 19, 2009 11:14AM) (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) 99% of our what? They did though. The Bible is the earliest record that we know of. It recounts the creation and starts with the first man and women on earth, Adam and Eve. I'm sorry jacked the pagan festivals? I have no idea what you mean? I don't even think I know about and pagan festivals. Would you mind enlightening me?


message 10: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) John wrote: "Stephanie wrote: "Let's think about this now. From our earliest accoutns of history religion has always been present. Has it not? As far as I know it has. Also if humans have evolved from apes then..."

wait if we were created from unstable matter how are we, trees, and espeacially the earth stable?


message 11: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) John wrote: "Odysseus wrote: "So your telling me that Humans that are very smart and that have brains eolved from acid and dust that's retatrded and doens'nt really make any sense. PLus How would you know the l..."

getting touchy, John? lol. just playing, trying to lighten things up a bit. sorry. sorry. I'm not familiar with all this science stuff. what do the graves have to do with anything? wouldn't the bodies have decomposed or soemthing?


message 12: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) Katie wrote: "Sorry if feels we're attacking you, John. We just want you to be saved. I really do like you, and it hurts to see that you don't believe. I don't want to be rude."

I don't mean to come off as attacking you, John. I'm just discussing. Sorry, if I frustrated you, not my intention. :)


message 13: by John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW (new)

John | 1254 comments Mod
A. 99% of our DNA
B. pagans believed in many gods, had a festival on december 25th, hhmm before christianity existed.
when the unstable matter exploded, the resulting stuff that came out, was stable, the bible has also been jacked, bits removed, the dead sea scrolls, they are the first documents of jesus, they clearly state that jesus had a wife, and a little kid.
also its impossible that the world was started by TWO peeps, work it out, unless incest happened of course



message 14: by John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW (last edited Dec 19, 2009 11:26AM) (new)

John | 1254 comments Mod
apart from in africa.
and its one of four women actually


message 15: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) sorry. I still don't understand what you're saying about the DNA. Christanity has been around for centuries, it's probably one of the oldest if not the oldest religions, so how would we know the exact date of this festival? True, the Bible is missing parts but over all contains the (in my opion) true account of creation. I don't know anythign about the dead sea scrolls so...I can't same much about that. I can't remeber ever being taught that Jesus had a family....so I'd have to lean towards that he didn't maybe he did, I don't know everything. I'm still learning. It is possible that the world was started by two people.


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John | 1254 comments Mod
2000 years


message 17: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) John wrote: "apart from in africa.
and its one of four women actually"


yeah, what apart from Africa?


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John | 1254 comments Mod
ustable matter is called anti matter when it explodes it becomes normal matter, which is stable


message 19: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) John wrote: "2000 years"

what? I don't follow the date.


message 20: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) Odysseus wrote: "WRONG!!!!!!!!

THe capital of The roman empire was Constanople and how can the exploding stuff from unstable matter be stable and if what you say is true than people would be a lot more defromed...."


Wait the Roman empire. Wasn't it's first capital Rome then was changed to Constantinople?


message 21: by Stephanie (last edited Dec 19, 2009 11:35AM) (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) Katie wrote: "We don't know that Christ was born in December, but He did NOT have a wife and kids."

and didn't think he did. i'm pretty sure he didn't. I believe, if I remeber correctly, that He was born aroudn easter....or maybe that was something different.


message 22: by John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW (new)

John | 1254 comments Mod
and constantinoble was the reformed roman empire, it was originally rome, the TRUWE roman empire ran up to 33 AD


message 23: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) John wrote: "ustable matter is called anti matter when it explodes it becomes normal matter, which is stable"

chemistry?


message 24: by John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW (new)

John | 1254 comments Mod
physics


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Stephanie (chasmofbooks) Katie wrote: "John, did you know that Darwin became a Christian?"

he did? wasn't he also bad at math and stuff?


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Katie wrote: "John, did you know that Darwin became a Christian?"

thats a rumour


message 27: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) John wrote: "and constantinoble was the reformed roman empire, it was originally rome, the TRUWE roman empire ran up to 33 AD"

yeah, Constantinople was the eastern Roman empire. I can't remeber the date my History book gave me so.....no comment their cause i have noe clue. lolz, i can never remeber dates.


message 28: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) John wrote: "physics"

ah. yuck. science. i hate it.


message 29: by Stephanie (last edited Dec 19, 2009 11:39AM) (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) Katie wrote: "I don't know. But many people who set out to disprove God's existence ended up believing."

or the theories fall apart. from what i've heard. Katie what religion to you belong to, if any?


message 30: by John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW (new)

John | 1254 comments Mod
well why did he publish a book then


message 31: by Tara, In hoc signo vinces (new)

Tara | 1068 comments Mod
John wrote: "ustable matter is called anti matter when it explodes it becomes normal matter, which is stable"

Wait, what? Physics? I'm studying physics right now, and it doesn't really have anything to do with matter. It's the study of motion.


message 32: by John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW (new)

John | 1254 comments Mod
ion what, lying and deciet???


message 33: by Tara, In hoc signo vinces (new)

Tara | 1068 comments Mod
Stephanie wrote: "sorry. I still don't understand what you're saying about the DNA. Christanity has been around for centuries, it's probably one of the oldest if not the oldest religions, so how would we know the ex..."

Judaism came before Christianity, which evolved from Judaism, and then Islam came. They all believe in the same God, though. But other than that, yes I agree with you.




message 34: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) because some one believed him? idk. there are a lot of senseless books published even now.


message 35: by Stephanie (last edited Dec 19, 2009 11:43AM) (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) Katie wrote: "Christianity is the first religion."

that's what i thought


message 36: by John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW (new)

John | 1254 comments Mod
Katie wrote: "John wrote: "ion what, lying and deciet???"

huh?"

well, they dig up a bone from a graveyard, and look, itd the HAND OF A SAINT worsjip it




message 37: by Tara, In hoc signo vinces (new)

Tara | 1068 comments Mod
Anyway, like I said, religion is a touchy subject. Not everyone believes in the same thing, but they all believe in some kind of god or gods. Religion is a way to explain the unexplainable.


message 38: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) Tara wrote: "Stephanie wrote: "sorry. I still don't understand what you're saying about the DNA. Christanity has been around for centuries, it's probably one of the oldest if not the oldest religions, so how wo..."

ok


message 39: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) Katie wrote: "because he was trying to find anything that proved God didn't exist, but he couldn't find anything."

true


message 40: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) John wrote: "ion what, lying and deciet???"

what?


message 41: by Tara, In hoc signo vinces (new)

Tara | 1068 comments Mod
Katie wrote: "Christianity is the first religion."

Really? Isn't it that Judaism was the first, and then Christianity evolved from it when Jesus came along? We're learning about Islam right now and how it connects to Christianity and Judaism.


message 42: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) lol. sorry that soudns a little ridiculous. how can people believe once they find the hand it's the hand of a saint? and why would anyoen worship a hand? sorry, sounds a little funny.


message 43: by John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW (new)

John | 1254 comments Mod
John wrote: "Katie wrote: "John wrote: "ion what, lying and deciet???"

huh?"
well, they dig up a bone from a graveyard, and look, itd the HAND OF A SAINT worsjip it

"





message 44: by John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW (new)

John | 1254 comments Mod
people pay to see the hand of a saint, there are decived into paying to see it


message 45: by Tara, In hoc signo vinces (new)

Tara | 1068 comments Mod
Katie wrote: "Tara wrote: "It's explainable. But God hasn't revealed everything. And religion isn't just a way to explain things. Humans were made to worship.
."


Well, yes, that too. But I'm saying that as if from a distance and I didn't believe in any certain religion, because people from other religions might not necessarily say that "God hasn't revealed anything," because they may not believe in him.


message 46: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) John wrote: "people pay to see the hand of a saint, there are decived into paying to see it"

that's sad.


message 47: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) Katie wrote: "Tara wrote: "Anyway, like I said, religion is a touchy subject. Not everyone believes in the same thing, but they all believe in some kind of god or gods. Religion is a way to explain the unexplain..."

nope, He hasn't revealed everything to us. Religion is a touchy subject but can be very interestign to learn about.


message 48: by John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW (new)

John | 1254 comments Mod
Stephanie wrote: "John wrote: "people pay to see the hand of a saint, there are decived into paying to see it"

that's sad."


the vatican has done the same with chains and stuff


message 49: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie (chasmofbooks) the what?


message 50: by John, dr.evil from austin powers. YOUTUBE IT...NOW (new)

John | 1254 comments Mod
head of christianity, the vatican


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