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message 1: by Rossy (last edited Nov 29, 2010 06:10AM) (new)

Rossy (naughtybookjunkie) | 2192 comments Have a series you started but have not been able to finish yet? Well i double-dog dare you to read the next book in the series!

Duration:December 1 - December 31 (1 month)
Series:As many series as you finish. You can list them before reading or after you're done reading. MUST be an already started series, NOT the 1st book you will be reading for that series. May add books but not change them!
Discussion:Was the book you read a good addition to the series? How much are you anticipating the next book? (If series is finished with this book) How do you feel now that the series has ended?

*Suggested by our awesome Debbie & rule ideas by DD!


message 2: by Dee (last edited Dec 26, 2010 03:41PM) (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments ok here is what I have for my list:

13/13 - although i'm sure i'll add more...these are just the most immediate ones

Happy Ever After - Nora Roberts - been looking forward to Parker's book since the quartet was introduced, but it hasn't gotten good reviews, so i'm skeptical - Finished - 12/13
Twice Bitten - Chloe Neill - book 3 in the chicagoland vamps...loving this series - book 4 due out in April (can't wait) - Finished - 25
Lover Mine - JR Ward - need I say more - Finished - 12/26
Mercury's War - Lora Leigh - time for another breed book - Finished - 12/15
Guilty Pleasure - Lora Leigh - lots of people seemed to be disappointed in this one - I hope i'm not - Finished - 12/18

Undead and Unreturnable - forgot I had this one in the que! - Finished - 12/2
Judgment in Death - mmm, another eve and rouke - Finished - 12/17
Zeke - book 3 in beth williamson's Devil's on Horseback - Finished - 12/20
Go Fetch! - book 2 in Shelly Laurenston's Magnus Pack - Finished - 12/13
Bloodfever - book 2 in KMM Fever series - Finished - 12/24
Tommo and Hawk - book 2 in the Australia Trilogy by Bryce Courtenay - Finished - 12/19
Solomon's Song book 3 and final book in the Australia Trilogy by Bryce Courtenay - Finished - 12/25
A Duke of Her Own - book 6 in Eloisa James Desperate Duchesses series - Finished - 12/26


message 3: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 1381 comments OMG! That wouldn't be possible!!!! WHY!!!! lol. Ok here is a few that I can think of right now. I have a ton of books that I need to read to tie up a series. Everyone knows I'm bad at completing a series.

0/3

At Grave's End Book 3- I've been putting this off but I actually have to get them done in December
Destined for an Early Grave- book 4- Going to tie this one up.
Happy Ever After- last book in the series. Thanks for reminding me Dee.

I can't even think of the other series I need to finish like Lorelei James, Lora Leigh, etc.


message 4: by Ann (new)

Ann (annabell123) I am so looking forward to this! These are the only ones I came up with...but I think it is plenty!

0/8
Frostbite (Vampire Academy, #2) - book 2 - I'm not actually done with the first one yet, but I will be by tomorrow night and am loving it so far!
Finding Becky- book 3- This is the final book, I'm not as interested in this one as the two before it, as this will be a complete new character.
The Keepsake - book 2 - This is the Rizzoli and Isles series. I absolutely loved the first book. This is the only author I have tried in this genre, and I am interested in finding others.
Ink Exchange - book 2 - I am so excited to read this book! I have gotten so interested in reading about faeries.
A Dream to Call My Own - book 3 - This is the final book in this series. This series has kind of been leaving cliffhangers...so I'm really interested in finding out what happens next!
My Soul to Save - book 2 - I was very surprised by this series. I wasn't sure if I would like it, but the first book I read in 2 sittings.
Undead and Unappreciated - book 3 - This author just makes me laugh out loud! I am in love with this series.
Queen of Babble Gets Hitched - book 3 - This is the last book in this series. I really liked the first book, the second was ok, and I've been pushing off this third one. It looks like it is shorter than the others, so maybe it won't be so bad!


message 5: by Shannon (last edited Nov 29, 2010 07:19AM) (new)

Shannon (Savhage Temptrest) (savhagetemptress) | 165 comments I have started sooooo many series it is just sad, but I think I want to give this a shot. I'll list as I go.

Progress: 0 of

1. Kiss of the Night by Sherrilyn Kenyon - Book #4 Dark-Hunter Series - I started reading this series last year and I have to say I have fallen in love with it. I skipped this book because I just had to read Night Play with Vane and Bride, but I don't want to miss a thing in this series.


message 6: by Rossy (last edited Dec 13, 2010 05:24PM) (new)

Rossy (naughtybookjunkie) | 2192 comments Duration:December 1 - December 31 (1 month)
Series:
Black Dagger Brotherhood: Lover Mine (Black Dagger Brotherhood, #8) by J.R. Ward
Fallen Angels: Crave (The Fallen Angels, #2) by J.R. Ward
Argeneau Vampires: Hungry for You (Argeneau, #14) by Lynsay Sands
Nauti Boys: Nauti Deceptions (Nauti, #5) by Lora Leigh Nauti and Wild (Includes Wild Riders, #4; Nauti, #6) by Lora Leigh
Dark Ones: Zen and the Art of Vampires (Dark Ones, #6) by Katie MacAlister +
Jamesville: By The Book (Jamesville, #6) by N.J. Walters Past Promises (Jamesville, #7) by N.J. Walters
Wilder Adventures: Instant Temptation (Wilder, #3) by Jill Shalvis
De La Vega Cats: Revelation (de La Vega Cats, #2) by Lauren Dane
Ghostwalkers: Street Game (GhostWalkers, #8) by Christine Feehan
Wolf Tales: Wolf Tales 10 (Aphrodisia) by Kate Douglas
Lords of Satyr: Dane (The Lords of Satyr, #5) by Elizabeth Amber
Chinooks Hockey Team: Nothing But Trouble (Chinooks Hockey Team, #5) by Rachel Gibson
The League: Born of Shadows (The League, #4) by Sherrilyn Kenyon
Kendrick/Coulter: Morning Light (Kendrick/Coulter/Harrigan #8) by Catherine Anderson
Fast Track: Hot Finish (Fast Track, #3) by Erin McCarthy
The Others: Born To Be Wild (The Others, #9) by Christine Warren
Cattle Valley: To Service and Protect (Cattle Valley #20) by Carol Lynne
Refuge Shifters: Resolution (Refuge Shifters, #4) by Carol Lynne
Action: Packing Heat (Action, #6) by G.A. Hauser
Destiny: Sugar Creek (Destiny, #2) by Toni Blake
Firefighters of Station Five: Under Fire (Firefighters of Station Five, #2) by Jo Davis

*takes a break before digging further into Mt. TBR*


message 7: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments wow rossy...to read all those in a month...haha!


message 8: by Ceej (new)

Ceej (drqangel) | 1015 comments Rossy wow I think I have just as many or more series to complete lol

I dunno about this one but hey I might give it a try.


message 9: by Rossy (new)

Rossy (naughtybookjunkie) | 2192 comments That's not even half of the list of series i have already started! Just look at the number of book on my bookshelves, this is more like motivation while i have them in front of my face, rather than reading it all in one month. If i do get to all of them though....that would be awesome!


message 10: by Rossy (new)

Rossy (naughtybookjunkie) | 2192 comments Drq wrote: "Rossy wow I think I have just as many or more series to complete lol

I dunno about this one but hey I might give it a try."


If you're not sure on how many you can accomplish, i suggest just updating as you finish. We don't have a set number you need to finish, so come join us!


message 11: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 1381 comments Rossy, you are just as bad as me! I know I could never post all of them because I would need more time to read. I got a few more to add to the mix...let me go back and edit :)


message 12: by Rossy (new)

Rossy (naughtybookjunkie) | 2192 comments Yeah, i'm trying not to add them all at once because my hands would hurt and i would be too overwhelmed. So for now i'll leave these and add as i go.


message 13: by Rossy (last edited Dec 09, 2010 11:07AM) (new)

Rossy (naughtybookjunkie) | 2192 comments Duration:December 1 - December 31 (1 month)
Series Finished: 3

Argeneau Vampires: Hungry for You (Argeneau, #14) by Lynsay Sands
Discussion:Was the book you read a good addition to the series? How much are you anticipating the next book? (If series is finished with this book) How do you feel now that the series has ended?
It was a good addition to the series, although it focused more on the romance instead of the paranormal side. Since we are introduced to a new family member in the next book, am really looking forward to the next release.

Cattle Valley: To Service and Protect (Cattle Valley #20) by Carol Lynne
Discussion:Was the book you read a good addition to the series? How much are you anticipating the next book? (If series is finished with this book) How do you feel now that the series has ended?
Compared to the previous book in this series that i read, this book was just ok. The series has become more a comfort read than an exciting one, but i'll be reading the next book for sure.

Destiny: Sugar Creek (Destiny, #2) by Toni Blake Whisper Falls (Destiny, #3) by Toni Blake
Discussion:Was the book you read a good addition to the series? How much are you anticipating the next book? (If series is finished with this book) How do you feel now that the series has ended?
The 2nd book was a good addition, although not as good as the 1st. I had some little issues with the heroine, but only due to personal preference. The 3rd book was on the other hand perfect. I was really happy to have received the arc copy.
I'm anxiously anticipating the next book. I hope that some of the brother of the heroine in book 3, is the next hero or the heroine's best friend, Amy with Logan.



message 14: by Rossy (new)

Rossy (naughtybookjunkie) | 2192 comments Ladies, please don't forget to write your discussion answers.


message 15: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments Undead and Unreturnable - forgot I had this one in the que! Finished - 12/2
can't say I was too pleased with this installment, not sure if i'll read more...Sinclair turned out to be really pussified during most of the book which ruined it for me...he got better by the end...but ugh!!


message 16: by Ann (last edited Dec 03, 2010 06:34PM) (new)

Ann (annabell123) 1/8

Finding Becky 12/02/10

Was the book you read a good addition to the series? How much are you anticipating the next book? (If series is finished with this book) How do you feel now that the series has ended? This was a great addition to the series. The second book in this series was alright, but this one was much better. I feel like it was a good series and this is the perfect place to end it.


message 17: by Ann (new)

Ann (annabell123) 2/8

Ink Exchange 12/03/10

Was the book you read a good addition to the series? How much are you anticipating the next book? (If series is finished with this book) How do you feel now that the series has ended?This was kind of disappointing compared to the first book. However, I do still intend on reading the next one, mostly in hopes that it will be as good as the first.


message 18: by Rossy (new)

Rossy (naughtybookjunkie) | 2192 comments Ann wrote: "2/8

Ink Exchange 12/03/10

Was the book you read a good addition to the series? How much are you anticipating the next book? (If series is finished with this book) How do you f..."


No wonder i keep putting off reading that one. I really enjoyed the first but mixed reviews have me going back and forth.


message 19: by Rossy (new)

Rossy (naughtybookjunkie) | 2192 comments Delicious Dee Challenge Addict wrote: "Sinclair turned out to be really pussified during most of the book which ruined it for me...he got better by the end...but ugh!! "

ROFLMAO! Another series i have yet to start. The mix reviews on different books just doesn't give me that push. I'm also not a fan of repetitive main characters on the entire series.


message 20: by Ann (new)

Ann (annabell123) Rossy wrote: "Delicious Dee Challenge Addict wrote: "Sinclair turned out to be really pussified during most of the book which ruined it for me...he got better by the end...but ugh!! "

ROFLMAO! Another series ..."


I am just on number 3, but I love it so far. It looks like there are 9 books in the series, so I don't know if I will make it that far. But at least they are easy fast reads!


message 21: by Rossy (new)

Rossy (naughtybookjunkie) | 2192 comments I'll get to it eventually, but i doubt it will be any time soon.


message 22: by Ann (new)

Ann (annabell123) 3/8

Undead and Unappreciated 12/05/10

Was the book you read a good addition to the series? How much are you anticipating the next book? (If series is finished with this book) How do you feel now that the series has ended?I think it was a good addition to the series. However, it was not as funny as the first two, and it didn't seem like there was as much conflict as the first two either. I am still looking forward to book number 4 in this series.


message 23: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments they are cute...just little substance...it was that this one...Sinclair did almost a 180, but he got better as it went...which is what disappointed me the most...the most recent in the series has gotten some very bad reviews becasue of what happened

Rossy wrote: "Delicious Dee Challenge Addict wrote: "Sinclair turned out to be really pussified during most of the book which ruined it for me...he got better by the end...but ugh!! "

ROFLMAO! Another series ..."



message 24: by Mandy (last edited Dec 06, 2010 10:57AM) (new)

Mandy Beyers (mandybeyers) | 763 comments Series Continuation Challenge

1. and 2. Beyond Varallan and Endurance by S. L. Viehl - December 2nd and 3rd

These are fantastic science fiction/medical/romance books in the Stardoc series (books 2 and 3). I love the main character and was thrilled with the twist in her love life that occurred at the end of book 3. (The author also writes the Dark Kyn/Kyndrsed books, so I enjoy her paranormal romances as well.)

3. Renegade by Lora Leigh December 5th

As with all of the books in her Elite Ops series, the romance is almost more of the book that the thriller/suspense aspect, but I still really enjoyed it. I love the tension between the overly protective male and the female who wanted to take part in the investigation regardless.

4. Night's Pleasure by Amanda Ashley - December 6th

The fourth book in this series follows the estranged twin vampire and the daughter of vampire hunters, both overcoming lies, misdirection, secrets, and feelings of guilt to see where they should go next with their lives. I enjoyed seeing all the previous characters at the end of the book.

Beyond Varallan (Stardoc, #2) by S.L. Viehl Endurance (Stardoc, #3) by S.L. Viehl Renegade (Elite Ops, #5) by Lora Leigh Night's Pleasure (My Night, #4) by Amanda Ashley


message 25: by Ann (new)

Ann (annabell123) 4/8

A Dream to Call My Own 12/07/10

Was the book you read a good addition to the series? How much are you anticipating the next book? (If series is finished with this book) How do you feel now that the series has ended? This book was awesome. It definitely finished this series. I feel like it ended right in the perfect spot. Now I will pick up another series by this author.


message 26: by Dee (last edited Dec 13, 2010 01:25PM) (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments Happy Ever After - have to say I was a bit skeptical because this book hadn't gotten good reviews, but I ended up really enjoying it - Mal is a good match for Parker...I only wish there had been some short epilogues with all their weddings - although we did see Mac's - Finished - 12/13


message 27: by Rossy (new)

Rossy (naughtybookjunkie) | 2192 comments Kelley, don't forget to answer the discussion questions! If you don't have the time to answer them right away, then only update your last post. Once you have the time you can re-post with the new update.


message 28: by Samantha (last edited Dec 13, 2010 05:41PM) (new)

Samantha | 1381 comments OMG! That wouldn't be possible!!!! WHY!!!! lol. Ok here is a few that I can think of right now. I have a ton of books that I need to read to tie up a series. Everyone knows I'm bad at completing a series.

1/3

At Grave's End Book 3- I've been putting this off but I actually have to get them done in December
Destined for an Early Grave- book 4- Going to tie this one up.
Happy Ever After- last book in the series. Thanks for reminding me Dee. completed 12/10/10

Happy Ever After- was a great addition to the series. I'm sad to part with the series but I am happy with the outcome. The characters were on point. Since there is no more books in the series, I felt she could have wrapped that epilogue up a little better than she did.


message 29: by Ann (new)

Ann (annabell123) 6/8

The Keepsake - I absolutely loved this book. It was such a great addition to this series. It was one of those books that makes you think about it afterward....like really good movies do. I went to bed right after reading this book and I think I laid there for a half hour just putting things together about the story and making more sense of all the connections.

Frostbite - I loved this book too. I love the characters. It made me so wonderfully frustrated that two characters were not going to be together romantically. I have to keep reading this series, and those two better be together in the end! lol


message 30: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments finished up Mercury's War - really liked this installment of the breeds...I felt for him and Ria so much - i'll be continuing on in the series, but have heard the next couple are weak and my library has them, so i'll probably borrow them vice buying


message 31: by Ceej (new)

Ceej (drqangel) | 1015 comments I'll finish ACRO, BDB and Hunger Games


message 32: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments finished 2 more, one planned and one not...

Guilty Pleasure - I've wanted to read Khalid's book from when he was introduced - def. enjoyed it and loved Marty, she was def. a take no BS heroine...be interesting to see who the next book is about (nothing on her website currently to indicate another book) - but i'm thinking either Shayne or Khalid's brother

Judgment in Death - another episode of eve and rourke...mmm, need I say more! love these books because of the interaction between the two, even if i did want to beat them both senseless at one stage for their idiocy!


message 33: by Ann (new)

Ann (annabell123) 7/8

My Soul to Save 12/20/10

Was the book you read a good addition to the series? How much are you anticipating the next book? (If series is finished with this book) How do you feel now that the series has ended? This was a great addition to the series. I loved it. It was different than the first. I am really looking forward to the next book.


message 34: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments finished up Zeke which is book 3 in beth williamson's devil's on horseback set in post civil war US, specifically texas...about a group of confederate soldiers trying to find themselves again - really enjoyed this installment - Zeke isn't as wounded as his brother lee, but he def. has some issues to deal with...I have the other 2 books in the series on the pile, so i'll keep reading!

also started Lover Mine (book 8 in BDB) and A Duke of Her Own (book 6 in desperate duchesses)


message 35: by Rossy (last edited Dec 20, 2010 09:39PM) (new)

Rossy (naughtybookjunkie) | 2192 comments Kelley, i will not acknowledge your finished books at the end of the month, if i don't see an update with the discussion questions. Check your private message inbox, please.


message 36: by Ann (new)

Ann (annabell123) 8/8 Done!

Queen of Babble Gets Hitched 12/21/10

Was the book you read a good addition to the series? How much are you anticipating the next book? (If series is finished with this book) How do you feel now that the series has ended? It was a good addition to the series, but I wasn't as excited about this book as I was the first one. I am glad that this series is over. I don't know that I could make myself read another "ok" read.


message 37: by Ceej (last edited Dec 23, 2010 02:41PM) (new)

Ceej (drqangel) | 1015 comments




ACRO (1/3)
Seduced by the Storm 12/20 - once I started reading this I tried to remember why I had drifted away from this series. These books tweaked my interest in paranormal. I love how Croft can write three different stories around one central even.
Taming the Fire -
Tempting the Fire -

BDB (1/1)
Lover Mine 12/22 - This book kinda made up for my anthipathy over V's book although I still haven't forgiven Ward. I can't wait for Payne's book because I'm eager about John being revealed as Darius or if she will do it

Hunger Games (1/1)
Mockingjay12/23 - This book definitely was a great finish. Through the trilogy I had so many "oh wow" and "Oh SH*&" moments. I mourn the end but I know to keep this going would have been bad for my psyche


message 38: by Kelley (new)

Kelley (shewolf0316) | 0 comments Rossy wrote: "Kelley, i will not acknowledge your finished books at the end of the month, if i don't see an update with the discussion questions. Check your private message inbox, please."

I do NOT have the time, patience, inclination OR interest to answer discussion questions. I joined the challenge because I thought it would be fun to see how many series books I could finish in one month. NOT because of the discussion questions. So if you are trying to force me to do them, consider me OUT of the challenge.


message 39: by Rossy (last edited Dec 23, 2010 03:28PM) (new)

Rossy (naughtybookjunkie) | 2192 comments Then perhaps you should have read the RULES prior to joining. This is not something we force upon our members, you are welcome to join or not, if you can follow the simple rules. If you wanted to participate on a simple challenge with no discussion, you should have signed up for the monthly challenge or even the yearly series challenge. The DARES as stated on the first page here: http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/2...
Are for reading a genre, author or theme and DISCUSSING IT.

Instead of contacting me when i send you a private message; or asked you to answer the discussion questions in this thread, You ignored it. I find that not just childish but rude. When i could have simply deleted your posts and answer to you only later if you contacted me, but i respected you enough to point it out and wait for a response from you.



message 40: by Dee (last edited Dec 23, 2010 05:58PM) (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments also updated msg 2 with my overall count

Go Fetch! - have to admit after pack challenge which I read a few months ago, I was ehh about this series, but when it came up as one of the books in the random book list, I fitured what the heck - ended up really enjoying it - much better than the first...will probably read the third


message 41: by Dee (last edited Dec 24, 2010 10:19PM) (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments updated msg 2...

also finished up Bloodfever - I only read the first one this month, so the fact that I picked up the second one to read right away should say something! loved seeing Mac develop as a character and can't wait to read the third one, but must wait!

figured i'll post these 2 as well, although they weren't on my original list, but since they finish out a trilogy - Tommo and Hawk and Solomon's Song - both by Bryce Courtenay - I love these books because they are so rich in historical detail. T&H picks up where the Potato Factory left off and follows Tommo and Hawk Solomon to whaling hunting in the ocean off New Zealand to the Maori Wars in the 1850's. Solomon's Song sees the death of Tommo and then covers a period of 40+ years, as his daughter and grand kids grow up. My only complaint is that the last book just ends and I have so many questions unanswered...what happens to Hawk in Australia to Victoria (Tommo's Granddaughter) - but the richness of the detail made me not want to read in this instance becasue I knew just enough about the Gallipoli campaign from WW1 to know what a massacre it was.


message 42: by Samantha (new)

Samantha | 1381 comments I'm done!

3/3

At Grave's End Book 3- I've been putting this off but I actually have to get them done in December 12/23/10
Destined for an Early Grave- book 4- Going to tie this one up. 12/24/10
Happy Ever After- last book in the series. Thanks for reminding me Dee. completed 12/10/10

Happy Ever After- was a great addition to the series. I'm sad to part with the series but I am happy with the outcome. The characters were on point. Since there is no more books in the series, I felt she could have wrapped that epilogue up a little better than she did.

At Grave's End- This was a good addition to the series. I really enjoyed it except for Tate and Cat. LOL! I think that the characters have remained true to character so far but I would like to see more evolving.

Destined for and early grave- Was not a good addition to the series. I really didn't enjoy it as much as the previous book. It made me re-think how much I want the next book to come out. Can she get back on track? Can some of the characters become more developed? We'll see.


message 43: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments updated msg 2

finished up Twice Bitten - book 3 in Chicagoland Vampires by Chloe Neill - super happy that Ethan and Merit finally hooked up after 3 books and yet 2 chapters later I wanted to hit him upside the head for being such a man! Unfortunately, now I have to wait until May to see what happens, because it was left with him apologizing (like he should have) but her not making a decision...


message 44: by Dee (new)

Dee (austhokie) | 7316 comments updated msg 2...ok, I think i'm done...i'm up to date on 13 series now...and 5 of them are either the last in the series as it ends or waiting for the next one...

A Duke of Her Own - since I started reading this series, i've wanted to see Villiers get his HEA and EJ didn't disappoint - Eleanor is def. a no-holds barred young lady, but not a simpering virgin like in so many other historicals, so knows what she wants and takes it...not sure if i'll read other books by EJ, but I enjoyed the series overall

Lover Mine - yay JM and Xhex - have to admit, while there were some books that were weaker in the series - overall the entire series was probably a 4.5-5 for me - loved JM and see the flashbacks to Tohr and Darius (I wonder if Tohr now knows that JM is D's reincarnation...) - can't wait to read Manny and Payne's book in April


message 45: by Ceej (last edited Dec 27, 2010 05:26PM) (new)

Ceej (drqangel) | 1015 comments




ACRO (3/3)
Seduced by the Storm 12/20 - once I started reading this I tried to remember why I had drifted away from this series. These books tweaked my interest in paranormal. I love how Croft can write three different stories around one central even.
Taming the Fire 12/26 - I love this series and this book is probably my second fav of them all. BDSM is one of my guilty wishes and Trance is hugely dominant. What I like most though is the never ending weaving of everyone's story in each book.
Tempting the Fire 12/27 - wow wow wow again I'm wondering how I got distracted from this series. I would have definitely hated to see it end but #6 is due out in 2011!!!

BDB (1/1)
Lover Mine 12/22 - This book kinda made up for my anthipathy over V's book although I still haven't forgiven Ward. I can't wait for Payne's book because I'm eager about John being revealed as Darius or if she will do it

Hunger Games (1/1)
Mockingjay12/23 - This book definitely was a great finish. Through the trilogy I had so many "oh wow" and "Oh SH*&" moments. I mourn the end but I know to keep this going would have been bad for my psyche


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