A History of Royals discussion

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462488/

I just came across another film I've never heard of. According to IMB the reviews are great. It's a 2005 film. I added it to my Netflix que.

OOOO - Alison Weir has a book by the same title, which is pretty good. This story has always intrigued me.

This movie takes on the story of Perkin Warbeck (aka Prince #2 Richard) I'll always wonder? Should be interesting.

Thanks Rio! That looks really interesting!

I just watched this! Fascinating! I still believe he was an imposter, only because we now know of the skeletons, but this makes you wonder. A must see for any of us history buffs

Ah! I saw this when it aired in the UK! Interesting little production.

Cool thanks for the link!
I love watching royalty in film!!!

Have any of you heard about the film being made of Will and Kate?

Niecole wrote: "Cool thanks for the link!
I love watching royalty in film!!!

Have any of you heard about the film being made of Will and Kate?"

No. Is it a made for TV movie?

As a native Brit, I ought to have heard about that, but I haven't. To be honest, that's because the modern royals bore me and I'm really only interested in the historical royals. The modern royals in my country are basically superfluous to the government of the realm, and to be honest it seems a little ridiculous to us that they seem to muck up so often and find it impossible to behave like a healthy, normal family. People in this country are fairly apathetic about the royals, and it has been pointed out many a time that if we were to become a republic then we would make a big saving per annum to spend on education and hospitals and so forth. We tend to view the reactions of foreign lovers of our royal family with some bemusement.

That said, I don't hate the royals - I just don't particularly care about them - and I can think of two positive reasons to have them around. Firstly there has been some debate if we got rid of the monarchy how big a hit would our tourism industry take? Secondly, purely by chance do we have a monarchy today, simply because of the extraordinary twists of history and because we in this country tend on the whole to be moderates instead of extremists - France and many other countries had revolutions deposing their monarchies (granted, we did too, but then Cromwell cocked everything up and we were like "eh, you know, it wasn't so bad, let's bring them back". I've heard it said actually that we were amongst the first to depose our royals and that the French never would have done it without the example of the English 100 years earlier). We just slowly reduced the power of the monarch to virtually nothing. So the fact that we still currently have royals is actually a living testament to the country's unique history. In that regards I suppose I find that of cultural significance and importance to me, however the actual people themselves I'm fairly indifferent to, and yes, to be honest we don't need them for government anymore so we could get rid of them.

Rio wrote: "I just watched this! Fascinating! I still believe he was an imposter, only because we now know of the skeletons, but this makes you wonder. A must see for any of us history buffs"

Jennifer wrote: "Thanks Rio! That looks really interesting!"

It's not clear who those skeletons belonged to. As they were buried very deep, they many actually be a pair of Roman children. It's not even obvious if the skeletons belonged to girls or boys. Unfortunately, we won't learn more until the bones are examined using modern techniques, and so far gaining permission has been impossible.

Two books containing information about the skeletons are Royal Blood by Bertram Fields, and The Mystery of the Princes by Audrey Williamson.

I think there is a strong possiblity Perkin Warbeck was Prince Richard. We may never know for certain though.

From the documentaries I have seen and from the Yeoman guards at the Tower... The skeletons were examined in I believe the 1930s and they did know that they were boys, the correct ages and that they were related.

But they don't know who they are, or from what era they're from. What's currently believed about their gender and age is controversial. Science has come a long way since the 1930's, and we'd learn a lot more if the bones were examined again.

Many documentaries repeat the same "traditional" story over and over again without doing any real research.

This is a very interesting and complex subject. I think you would enjoy the books I mentioned before.

Niecole wrote: "Cool thanks for the link!
I love watching royalty in film!!!

Have any of you heard about the film being made of Will and Kate?"

Niecole, since you asked about a William and Kate movie, I was watching and old DVRd show from April and there was a commerical for a William and Kate Lifetime movie. I remembered your post. You might have caught it by now, but I noticed it is soon to be available on DVD and Netflix. The commercial did look overly cheesy, but hey most Lifetime movies are.