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Good morning Bellalina. Let's get the conversation/debate started. Thanks, Michael


When this incident first occurred, the parents were meeting with the police without a lawyer. When they felt that they were suspects, they backed off and then a lawyer mysteriously appeared. I do not fault them for getting a lawyer if they believe that they are the focus of police investigation. However, the circus atmosphere certainly leads the viewing public to wonder what is everyone's priority. Not cooperating with the police, not allowing the siblings to be interviewed, tours of the house and press conferences has not helped in the search for Baby Lisa.

Great article. Great perspective.
It appears that the parents are not cooperating. What can be done about this? I have never heard of the parents not wanting to answer questions, refusing to talk to police, and also setting conditions on their questioning as well as the children. Isn't this obstruction of justice? I find this very arrogant and flippant on the parents part. In your experience, have you ever seen such activities from parents from a missing baby? It borderlines on absurdity. Also, do you feel that an arrest is imminent?

One more question, what do you think about this private benefactor? Why is it such a secret in your opinion?

Great article. Great perspective.
It appears that the parents are not cooperating. What can be done about this? I have never heard of the parents not wanting to answer questions, refusing..."
Good morning Irisheyes:
I find the entire scope of activities that have surrounded this incident as strange. As for this private benefactor - I believe the identity of this individual or entity will eventually be revealed and there will be some financial gain involved, given all the media exposure this case has received.

Great article. Great perspective.
It appears that the parents are not cooperating. What can be done about this? I have never heard of the parents not wanting to answer questions, refusing..."
Generally, not cooperating with an investigation does not constitute an obstruction of justice. Such a charge usually requires some "overt act." I do not believe an arrest is imminent as I have not seen any recent activity that is bringing the police closer to resolution or having a case ready for prosecution.

DB apparently has had issues with alcohol in the past. It is believed that she has a DUI. A mother, self professing that she was "so intoxicated that she doesn't remember" is hardly means or grounds, or explanation for not talking to police, and a defense. I would find, at least, that Child protective services should be able to question her skills, and judgement of as a parent. Mothers who abuse drugs are subject to their children being removed from their care. Why would alcohol be any different, and as I might add to the point that mom doesn't remember? She should be held accountable in some way. I hope LE is scouring the laws to try to hold her accountable for her baby missing.
DB was very negligent that night with her responsibilities as a mother. Her negligence and those actions of, probably put the baby in danger, whether she had any thing to do with it or not. Is there another charge to get DB on? She was the last one seen with the child, and she doesn't remember? Remember from the CA case, Child protective services made their pronouncement after the verdict. Forever in CA's file that she failed to protect her daughter. We have learned many lessons from CA case, and I believe that DB was neglectful that night, and I would hope that social services would be all over that.
Not many murderers can defend themselves on "I don't remember" defense if there is evidence convicting them of the crime. They get convicted anyway. LE has got to find a way to get around this not talking and cooperating with LE. This is absurd these parents are not talking.
Also, in most missing children cases, the majority of the parents STAY in their home, some parents of missing children, absolutely refuse to move, because they so hopefully believe that someday that their child will come back to the home, come back to them. I find this an oddity that DB and JI immediately left the home. Their actions tallied up just don't add up.

That being said, why would anyone be "walking slowly, carrying a live or dead baby in the middle of the street, in the middle of the night, and then again seen on a busy highway supposedly at 4:00am"?
Oh wait, perhaps if I wanted to be seen carrying that baby. Perhaps I wanted "eyewitnesses" to see me carrying a baby. I know Bellalina asked this question on another article, but could these sightings have been staged? If I was kidnapping a baby, I certainly wouldn't be parading around in public carrying a baby for 4 hours? Just as if I was robbing a bank. I would take the more abscure route, the backroads, the one with least detection or anyone spotting me. I personally find the sightings a bit much. Usually babies vanish without a trace,.
I have (multipart) another question:
What do you think the obstacles in the case are for LE?
Lack of cooperation with LE?
No (body) of baby Lisa
The supposed sightings?
National Media?
High Powered attorney?

Good morning Irisheyes:
I think the biggest obstacle is the lack of cooperation from the parents. With an infant, the parents have all the pertinent information. Apparently, the sightings have been checked out by the police. The police have not reported the results of the follow-up, but their silence indicates that they do not find those sightings to be relevant.
At the outset of a missing child incident, the media is critical and it is in the police and parents' best interest to engage the media. Unfortunately, as time moves on, the media becomes less critical. They do not harm the investigation, but the police have less reasons to hold press conferences. As well, the media moves on to other stories.
As for attorneys (any attorney - not just this one), their impact is mostly felt when they do not allow access to their client, as we see in this case. However, despite what you see on television, attorneys do not really have much ability to impede an investigation. An attorney's ability is tested mostly in the courtroom. Thanks, Michael



Last week, there was a search conducted in a wooded area I believe, and allegedly, baby clothes were found, however mom disputes that the clothes were baby Lisa's. In addition, coupled with the recent release of the pings to the media (FOX News) does this information in your opinion, bring investigators any closer to solving this case? I found the cell phone records interesting. What are are your thoughts Michael?

Last week, there was a search conducted in a wooded area I believe, and allegedly, baby clothes were found, however mom disputes that the clothes were baby Lisa's. In addition, coupled..."
Hello Irisheyes,
Good to hear from you. I will post a new blog in the next day or two so we can discuss these new developments.
Thanks,
Michael

Looking forward to your new article, and your expert thoughts. The pings reveal activity, and documents the "phone kidnapper" for 4 hours. Even for 4 hours, while the supposed baby sightings occur simultaneously. Pinging by the river, while sightings occur in opposite direction.
I just have to make one comment, and it is in regards to the attorney, his name somehow escapes me now at this moment, but in a local interview, he stated that LE comments on the case concerning the parents, that they not cooperating are just a "fantasy" statement.He does specifically specify that they both, Jeremy and Debra, collectively, have been interrogated for at least 30 hours. Michael, please don't tell me the KCPD is waterboarding these poor, victimized parents. (Snark and sigh).
Bigger sigh, and waiting for your new article.